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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2014 16:38:39 GMT -5
As for college athletes getting paid, sure they're getting a free ride, but is it really equal to what they bring in for the university? For instance if LeBron for some reason decided to attend GWU, sure that's $60K that he wouldn't have to pay but how much money would they have made off of him? No doubt millions. It's a situation with no simple solution at the moment.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Aug 26, 2014 16:40:05 GMT -5
The reaction to 9/11 had a detrimental effect upon pop culture. That which is seen as subversive is more heavily criticised. Fictional works such as films and TV shows have reflected stronger belief in supporting the status quo such as police forces, sovereign states, and government agencies. It has also had a damaging effect on education and parenting, as any behaviour which deviates from perceived normalcy is seen as a danger causing the child to either be drugged up on medication or expelled from school. I think WWE reflects this too. Edgier anti-heroes are shelved in favour of allegedly clean cut wholesome heroes who in fact reflect establishment control. On the last point, I could not disagree more. Regardless if you think they're written badly or not, anti-heroes in general are not inherently superior characters. Relying on one archetype essentially stifles creativity. Oh, and these are my least favorite kinds of threads. If I never saw another again, it would be too soon.
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Post by Nikki Heyman on Aug 26, 2014 16:42:53 GMT -5
But if an athlete goes to college on a scholarship, they're being "Paid" by not having to pay for classes, books, room, etc - Which nowadays is about per player what the college is making off them anyway. Why can't that extra money be seen as a way to lower the price of classes for EVERYONE so that we don't have millions of kids in debt when they graduate? I have several friends who didn't have scholarships (academic, athletic or otherwise) who are in over their heads. Athletes - off to the NFL or not - won't have that when they graduate. And that's even IF the athletes are taking classes..... Because they are not getting all that paid for. Classes, books and room are likely but they still have to get their supplies, clothes, food and drinks, and everything else. Most of these kids between classes and then sports are going 12 hours a day if not more. They cannot work to provide for themselves because of the schedule they are forced to keep, most don't have parents that can help and accepting anything from anyone will be a violation of NCAA rules ending their college career which that leaves them up the creek while the universities make millions off of them. I would think that a scholarship would cover everything - and the athletes can take a regular load (12 hours of classes) each semester. Most universities also bend over backwards to make sure the athletes make their academic guidelines/requirements so I'm sure there's money spent on tutors and a few less..... acceptable means of getting those grades. But paying these kids is just asking for trouble, since enough of the actual pros have no idea what to do with all that money....
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Post by J is Justice on Aug 26, 2014 16:46:28 GMT -5
The emoticons on this forum suck.
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Since apparantly everyone hated it for some reason: I thought Bioshock Infinite was awesome.
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 26, 2014 16:50:47 GMT -5
The emoticons on this forum suck. Not a fan of Star Wars or Star Trek. Not a fan of comics, either. Since apparantly everyone hated it for some reason: I thought Bioshock Infinite was awesme. I don't hate Bioshock, but it had some issues. It would have really benefited from a weapon wheel, rather than only having two weapons. "Try this new weapon" "NO, I am not dumb enough to throw a weapon I've upgraded on the ground to use this." It's a nitpick, sure, but it bugged me.
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Post by Hit Girl on Aug 26, 2014 16:51:20 GMT -5
Did they?
It had critical acclaim, won loads of awards and sold shitloads of copies.
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Post by Phosphor Glow on Aug 26, 2014 16:53:38 GMT -5
Did they? It had critical acclaim, won loads of awards and sold shitloads of copies. This is all true, but there's been a great deal of backlash on the internet since roughly a week after it came out, nitpicking it right the hell apart. I don't know if it's a huge amount of people, or just a handful of loud people, but regardless, whenever Infinite is discussed, I see more negative than positive. Commas.
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Post by Hit Girl on Aug 26, 2014 16:54:27 GMT -5
Meh, they are just hipsters.
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Post by Injustice45 on Aug 26, 2014 16:55:08 GMT -5
Did they? It had critical acclaim, won loads of awards and sold shitloads of copies. I guess after they played the game, they started to see the flaws in Infinite, and thus, started to embrace the hate for it. GameSpot's second review on the game scored a 4/10 (cue Bret Hart meme).
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Post by Mayonnaise on Aug 26, 2014 16:59:26 GMT -5
Because they are not getting all that paid for. Classes, books and room are likely but they still have to get their supplies, clothes, food and drinks, and everything else. Most of these kids between classes and then sports are going 12 hours a day if not more. They cannot work to provide for themselves because of the schedule they are forced to keep, most don't have parents that can help and accepting anything from anyone will be a violation of NCAA rules ending their college career which that leaves them up the creek while the universities make millions off of them. I would think that a scholarship would cover everything - and the athletes can take a regular load (12 hours of classes) each semester. Most universities also bend over backwards to make sure the athletes make their academic guidelines/requirements so I'm sure there's money spent on tutors and a few less..... acceptable means of getting those grades. But paying these kids is just asking for trouble, since enough of the actual pros have no idea what to do with all that money.... It doesn't cover all though, the stories are out there of kids on full scholarships going hungry and it is even worse for those kids on partial which is the vast majority of them, especially in smaller sports and programs. They are putting in 60 hours a week just for athletics, on top of 20 or so for academics while bringing in millions to these schools based on their likeness while not seeing a dime and feeling the effects of that. The people advocating for these kids to see money to help them out aren't looking for pro style dollars, they are looking for these kids to get enough to live like a normal person would. To be able to pay a cell bill or more importantly eat dinner.
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Post by Phosphor Glow on Aug 26, 2014 17:00:47 GMT -5
Meh, they are just hipsters. Because they have complaints about a game? How do you figure?
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 26, 2014 17:04:56 GMT -5
Did they? It had critical acclaim, won loads of awards and sold shitloads of copies. This is all true, but there's been a great deal of backlash on the internet since roughly a week after it came out, nitpicking it right the hell apart. I don't know if it's a huge amount of people, or just a handful of loud people, but regardless, whenever Infinite is discussed, I see more negative than positive. Commas. Some of it might be in part because it's so different, and they didn't even really want to call it Bioshock, initially, but in part due to the vast amount of cash put into the game, they had to make a number of compromises, like to the box art and other concessions. Naturally, some fans of the first two Bioshocks weren't overly happy, with a situation similar to Halloween 3. "It's fine, I guess, but it isn't what the name would imply".
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Post by Nikki Heyman on Aug 26, 2014 17:05:06 GMT -5
I would think that a scholarship would cover everything - and the athletes can take a regular load (12 hours of classes) each semester. Most universities also bend over backwards to make sure the athletes make their academic guidelines/requirements so I'm sure there's money spent on tutors and a few less..... acceptable means of getting those grades. But paying these kids is just asking for trouble, since enough of the actual pros have no idea what to do with all that money.... It doesn't cover all though, the stories are out there of kids on full scholarships going hungry and it is even worse for those kids on partial which is the vast majority of them, especially in smaller sports and programs. They are putting in 60 hours a week just for athletics, on top of 20 or so for academics while bringing in millions to these schools based on their likeness while not seeing a dime and feeling the effects of that. The people advocating for these kids to see money to help them out aren't looking for pro style dollars, they are looking for these kids to get enough to live like a normal person would. To be able to pay a cell bill or more importantly eat dinner. I also recall stories while I was in college (many many moons ago) that these kids weren't even attending their classes and had someone take care of all the academic side of things. I honestly don't suspect that's changed much. If a college is giving a "free ride" scholarship, that should be covering everything - classes, books (new or used), food (campus cafeteria) and board (especially if the kid doesn't live in that particular state). I still think that's more than enough for the student, and that the schools should be required to put that millions back into academics outside of athletics, and maybe the prices will come down. This is from the same person who, if elected commissioner of any professional sport, would take the last two zeros to the left of the decimal out of every player's salary and see who actually WANTS to play!
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Post by Hit Girl on Aug 26, 2014 17:12:19 GMT -5
The reaction to 9/11 had a detrimental effect upon pop culture. That which is seen as subversive is more heavily criticised. Fictional works such as films and TV shows have reflected stronger belief in supporting the status quo such as police forces, sovereign states, and government agencies. It has also had a damaging effect on education and parenting, as any behaviour which deviates from perceived normalcy is seen as a danger causing the child to either be drugged up on medication or expelled from school. I think WWE reflects this too. Edgier anti-heroes are shelved in favour of allegedly clean cut wholesome heroes who in fact reflect establishment control. On the last point, I could not disagree more. Regardless if you think they're written badly or not, anti-heroes in general are not inherently superior characters. Relying on one archetype essentially stifles creativity. I didn't say they were superior, but they've been shelved in favour of something with an unsettling undertone to it.
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 26, 2014 17:17:43 GMT -5
It doesn't cover all though, the stories are out there of kids on full scholarships going hungry and it is even worse for those kids on partial which is the vast majority of them, especially in smaller sports and programs. They are putting in 60 hours a week just for athletics, on top of 20 or so for academics while bringing in millions to these schools based on their likeness while not seeing a dime and feeling the effects of that. The people advocating for these kids to see money to help them out aren't looking for pro style dollars, they are looking for these kids to get enough to live like a normal person would. To be able to pay a cell bill or more importantly eat dinner. I also recall stories while I was in college (many many moons ago) that these kids weren't even attending their classes and had someone take care of all the academic side of things. I honestly don't suspect that's changed much. If a college is giving a "free ride" scholarship, that should be covering everything - classes, books (new or used), food (campus cafeteria) and board (especially if the kid doesn't live in that particular state). I still think that's more than enough for the student, and that the schools should be required to put that millions back into academics outside of athletics, and maybe the prices will come down. This is from the same person who, if elected commissioner of any professional sport, would take the last two zeros to the left of the decimal out of every player's salary and see who actually WANTS to play! On the last point, who gets those last two zeros? The team's not exactly giving the players a huge paycheck out of the goodness of their hearts, it's because they're making MUCH more money and they can afford to pony up the cash. It's not nuts for some players to get a cut of that, particularly when they're grinding their body into a fine paste to make any of that possible. A lot of it is also because, one f*** up, and all of that comes to an end. A pitcher who can't throw the ball just right anymore might as well have a hook for a hand, he's next to worthless, and all because he swished when he should've flicked and f***ed his wrist up. The team's selling bobble heads, jerseys, caps, video games, pennants or balls, cutouts, figures, etc, and it's on the strength or weakness of the players that forms these dynasties they can farm for years. You have to hook the fans to begin with, and you can't do that if your team sucks. I get the feeling of entitlement, certainly, and how it seems shitty that some people should get to live so high on the hog, but it's because they climbed there or were born with something that could make someone else a pretty penny, a prettier one than they'll be seeing for their efforts, even.
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Post by Nikki Heyman on Aug 26, 2014 17:24:59 GMT -5
I also recall stories while I was in college (many many moons ago) that these kids weren't even attending their classes and had someone take care of all the academic side of things. I honestly don't suspect that's changed much. If a college is giving a "free ride" scholarship, that should be covering everything - classes, books (new or used), food (campus cafeteria) and board (especially if the kid doesn't live in that particular state). I still think that's more than enough for the student, and that the schools should be required to put that millions back into academics outside of athletics, and maybe the prices will come down. This is from the same person who, if elected commissioner of any professional sport, would take the last two zeros to the left of the decimal out of every player's salary and see who actually WANTS to play! On the last point, who gets those last two zeros? The team's not exactly giving the players a huge paycheck out of the goodness of their hearts, it's because they're making MUCH more money and they can afford to pony up the cash. It's not nuts for some players to get a cut of that, particularly when they're grinding their body into a fine paste to make any of that possible. A lot of it is also because, one f*** up, and all of that comes to an end. A pitcher who can't throw the ball just right anymore might as well have a hook for a hand, he's next to worthless, and all because he swished when he should've flicked and f***ed his wrist up. The team's selling bobble heads, jerseys, caps, video games, pennants or balls, cutouts, figures, etc, and it's on the strength or weakness of the players that forms these dynasties they can farm for years. You have to hook the fans to begin with, and you can't do that if your team sucks. I get the feeling of entitlement, certainly, and how it seems shitty that some people should get to live so high on the hog, but it's because they climbed there or were born with something that could make someone else a pretty penny, a prettier one than they'll be seeing for their efforts, even. I'll go with a popular answer and put all that extra money into a fund for those athletes/widows of athletes that are financially strapped because of the sports injuries. If not that, then should go to hiring financial consultants to get those players making all that ridiculous money how to actually save up so that we don't end up with more worse case scenarios. I just think the $$$ in professional sports is so off the charts that we need a reality check with it. Joe Q public can no longer afford to attend NFL or NBA events (Hockey and Baseball aren't too bad) and merch is outrageously priced.
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Post by Malcolm on Aug 26, 2014 17:31:27 GMT -5
Kim Possible: What's the Switch is a pretty decent PS2 platformer. Also, WrestleMania XIX is a good game...if you take away the Revenge Mode. I just bought Kim Possible for the PS2 this weekend for a dollar and I think it's pretty good. Also, here's an unpopular opinion: I think Revenge Mode is the best story mode in any wrestling game.
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Post by Red Impact on Aug 26, 2014 17:33:08 GMT -5
I think, and hope, that football popularity takes a huge hit at some point and things just come crashing down. Then again, I also think people who get super-obsessive with sports are as bad as any other stereotypical fanbase.
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 26, 2014 17:35:41 GMT -5
On the last point, who gets those last two zeros? The team's not exactly giving the players a huge paycheck out of the goodness of their hearts, it's because they're making MUCH more money and they can afford to pony up the cash. It's not nuts for some players to get a cut of that, particularly when they're grinding their body into a fine paste to make any of that possible. A lot of it is also because, one f*** up, and all of that comes to an end. A pitcher who can't throw the ball just right anymore might as well have a hook for a hand, he's next to worthless, and all because he swished when he should've flicked and f***ed his wrist up. The team's selling bobble heads, jerseys, caps, video games, pennants or balls, cutouts, figures, etc, and it's on the strength or weakness of the players that forms these dynasties they can farm for years. You have to hook the fans to begin with, and you can't do that if your team sucks. I get the feeling of entitlement, certainly, and how it seems shitty that some people should get to live so high on the hog, but it's because they climbed there or were born with something that could make someone else a pretty penny, a prettier one than they'll be seeing for their efforts, even. I'll go with a popular answer and put all that extra money into a fund for those athletes/widows of athletes that are financially strapped because of the sports injuries. If not that, then should go to hiring financial consultants to get those players making all that ridiculous money how to actually save up so that we don't end up with more worse case scenarios. I just think the $$$ in professional sports is so off the charts that we need a reality check with it. Joe Q public can no longer afford to attend NFL or NBA events (Hockey and Baseball aren't too bad) and merch is outrageously priced. I think a lot of that is on the owners rather than the players, but I agree that they get tossed to the wolves, without enough preparation for handling that kind of money, and that shit's kind of nuts as far as prices on things go. I guess I just don't know if it'd really even do much to lower prices when I doubt the owners would lower prices much. You could probably cut player salaries by half and we'd see MAYBE 15% lower prices. They can be kinda scummy like that.
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Post by Injustice45 on Aug 26, 2014 17:35:40 GMT -5
Kim Possible: What's the Switch is a pretty decent PS2 platformer. Also, WrestleMania XIX is a good game...if you take away the Revenge Mode. I just bought Kim Possible for the PS2 this weekend for a dollar and I think it's pretty good. Also, here's an unpopular opinion: I think Revenge Mode is the best story mode in any wrestling game. You got Kim Possible for one dollar? I bought the game for five, unfortunately. But, it was five dollars well spent. While I disagree with your opinion on the Revenge Mode, I can see why some people can enjoy it. You are throwing security guards (who are just doing their jobs) off of buildings and construction sites. Here's a good unpopular opinion: Skyrim was boring.
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