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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Aug 28, 2014 17:47:23 GMT -5
They REALLY missed the boat not having him stay face/tweener and getting a win over Cena. He'd be a solid main event guy right now. We can argue about what constitutes as "ready", but man...Ryback was ready. Not only that, but he has a very marketable look and presence. I don't care if he's limited to the hoss style. We haven't had a top guy like that in a while. He's got more of a presence than a guy like Sheamus or Reigns, who have their own strengths but Ryback just seemed like a superstar ripped right out of the 90's. Agreed. Every dude doesn't have to chain wrestle. Sometimes you want to see a big dude wreck shit. And to me ready means when a guy is over enough that people would buy it. And there for a few months, the guy was. De-pushing his is just baffling.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Aug 28, 2014 18:40:51 GMT -5
We can argue about what constitutes as "ready", but man...Ryback was ready. Not only that, but he has a very marketable look and presence. I don't care if he's limited to the hoss style. We haven't had a top guy like that in a while. He's got more of a presence than a guy like Sheamus or Reigns, who have their own strengths but Ryback just seemed like a superstar ripped right out of the 90's. Agreed. Every dude doesn't have to chain wrestle. Sometimes you want to see a big dude wreck shit. And to me ready means when a guy is over enough that people would buy it. And there for a few months, the guy was. De-pushing his is just baffling. I blame the bad timing of Cena getting injured for Ryback's downfall. He was slowly becoming the Man before John got hurt and WWE needed a replacement for him vs Punk. Ryback took over Cena's spot and was the first victim of the Shield. After spending months of getting punked by them, he turned heel when Cena was ready to resume his spot. Was doing alright until getting accused of Carelessness. After that, he went down the card before becoming a Paul Heyman Guy which proved to be a kiss of death. Hopefully he returns as a face. The crowd is yearning to cheer for him once more.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Aug 28, 2014 18:43:45 GMT -5
Agreed. Every dude doesn't have to chain wrestle. Sometimes you want to see a big dude wreck shit. And to me ready means when a guy is over enough that people would buy it. And there for a few months, the guy was. De-pushing his is just baffling. I blame the bad timing of Cena getting injured for Ryback's downfall. He was slowly becoming the Man before John got hurt and WWE needed a replacement for him vs Punk. Ryback took over Cena's spot and was the first victim of the Shield. After spending months of getting punked by them, he turned heel when Cena was ready to resume his spot. Was doing alright until getting accused of Carelessness. After that, he went down the card before becoming a Paul Heyman Guy which proved to be a kiss of death. Hopefully he returns as a face. The crowd is yearning to cheer for him once more. Very true. If he came back to make the save for some face being beat down, then a FEED ME MORE chant.. he's right back over.
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Post by keezy on Aug 28, 2014 18:52:40 GMT -5
He says he's been working injured for about 7 months now, maybe that's the reason behind the Rybaxel team because it means he didn't have to work as hard.
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Post by deancubed on Aug 29, 2014 8:10:28 GMT -5
When he comes back, make sure he comes back at 100%. And get him the hell away from Curtis Axel who is an absolute black hole for crowd heat, probably the worst offender now that Del Rio is gone. People care more about Titus O'Neal than Axel.
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Post by DjZonk on Aug 29, 2014 8:14:25 GMT -5
I say bring him back as a face similar to his 2012 run. People like Ryback. To this day I am astonished they didn't try their luck running with him when they had the chance. That Hell in the Cell with Punk and how he was booked in the months following was beyond a joke.
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Post by Ryushinku on Aug 29, 2014 8:25:34 GMT -5
Man, Ryback gets a lot more praise online now than he ever did back at the time. It was all "boring hoss megapush" and "look, he couldn't lift that guy very well" and "Goldberg ripoff" and "we want Punk" and so on. That was too harsh, glad things are more balanced. He was been wasted for a long time now.
The big plus is that he has the kind of look and persona that can definitely come back huge. It's all down to what they do with him, if they can think straight for a change and things line up for him. Something like the Rumble or WrestleMania is a perfect stage for a sudden appearance and ripping the heads off a few people to look like a monster.
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Post by Dub H on Aug 29, 2014 11:22:03 GMT -5
I will safely say Ryback was the biggest f*** up by WWE in the last 10 years.Sure there was many star and stables cut short.But only Ryback was that crazy over and having everything just set up for crazy cash and success.
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Post by the2ndevil on Aug 29, 2014 12:40:20 GMT -5
Ryback was harmed by them seemingly wanting Punk's reign to hit the one year point, and then wanting Punk to drop the title to that young up and comer Dwayne Johnson.
Both decisions were idiotic.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2014 15:40:48 GMT -5
Ryback was harmed by them seemingly wanting Punk's reign to hit the one year point, and then wanting Punk to drop the title to that young up and comer Dwayne Johnson. Both decisions were idiotic. It's really one decision though. Rock/Cena 2 for the title was happening no matter what. That required Rock winning the title from someone else. Who else was going to drop the title to Rock? Orton was the only other guy I could imagine Rock working with in that instance, they definitely weren't gonig to throw him in there with Ryback. Ryback would've been able to recover just fine, because he was obviously getting screwed at every turn by The Shield. The loss to Henry at Mania and the heel turn on Cena the next night were the killing blows.
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Post by Hit Girl on Aug 29, 2014 15:43:35 GMT -5
I say bring him back and keep him on commentary. The guy is hilarious.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Aug 29, 2014 15:49:14 GMT -5
Ryback's time came at an odd place, and maybe he should've been part of the plans changing, or maybe he should've been cooled off a bit.
But they didn't just cool him, they dumped him in the Arctic.
He should've crushed Miz or whoever was IC Champ (Was it Miz or Barrett?)right after TLC. Ryback could've been a Warrior like IC Champ through Mania and then done a face vs face program with Cena till the rise of Bryan.
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Post by Boo! on Aug 29, 2014 15:52:22 GMT -5
Ryback's biggest problem has always been the multi-coloured singlet. Who's ever got over and done serious business wearing a muti-coloured singlet?
It's a small point but the singlet shouldn't be the garment of choice for anyone you're serious about pushing.
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Post by keezy on Aug 29, 2014 16:02:28 GMT -5
Ryback's biggest problem has always been the multi-coloured singlet. Who's ever got over and done serious business wearing a muti-coloured singlet? It's a small point but the singlet shouldn't be the garment of choice for anyone you're serious about pushing. Ultimate Warrior? Kurt Angle? RVD?
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Post by ZERO on Aug 29, 2014 16:02:52 GMT -5
Ryback was harmed by them seemingly wanting Punk's reign to hit the one year point, and then wanting Punk to drop the title to that young up and comer Dwayne Johnson. Both decisions were idiotic. I don't like Ryback, but the longer Punk's reign went, the more I realised the depressing inevitability that Rock was beating him for it. At that time, anyone could see Ryback had something going for him, and the worst that could happen is that he could drop the belt back to Punk or someone else next month if it didn't work out. The fact they didn't even try is kinda crazy, and I guess shows their bloody-mindedness. Ryback's biggest problem has always been the multi-coloured singlet. Who's ever got over and done serious business wearing a muti-coloured singlet? It's a small point but the singlet shouldn't be the garment of choice for anyone you're serious about pushing. Doesn't help that the only other guy who wears singlets like that is Rob Van Dam. I think Ryback actually gets his airbrushed by the same guy. Not sure if that says anything...
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Post by keezy on Aug 29, 2014 16:07:34 GMT -5
Ryback was harmed by them seemingly wanting Punk's reign to hit the one year point, and then wanting Punk to drop the title to that young up and comer Dwayne Johnson. Both decisions were idiotic. I don't like Ryback, but the longer Punk's reign went, the more I realised the depressing inevitability that Rock was beating him for it. At that time, anyone could see Ryback had something going for him, and the worst that could happen is that he could drop the belt back to Punk or someone else next month if it didn't work out. The fact they didn't even try is kinda crazy, and I guess shows their bloody-mindedness. Ryback's biggest problem has always been the multi-coloured singlet. Who's ever got over and done serious business wearing a muti-coloured singlet? It's a small point but the singlet shouldn't be the garment of choice for anyone you're serious about pushing. Doesn't help that the only other guy who wears singlets like that is Rob Van Dam. I think Ryback actually gets his airbrushed by the same guy. Not sure if that says anything... He should go back to his OVW look, but have airbrushed tights kind of like Rick Rude.
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Post by mizerable on Aug 29, 2014 16:07:29 GMT -5
Ryback's biggest problem has always been the multi-coloured singlet. Who's ever got over and done serious business wearing a muti-coloured singlet? It's a small point but the singlet shouldn't be the garment of choice for anyone you're serious about pushing. I wholeheartedly disagree, especially when their top guy wears jorts which haven't corresponded with his character since 2004. The singlets are awesome. They set him apart from so many others that wear goofy trunks, and dare I say actually make him look more physically imposing, as opposed to his Skip Sheffield look. I'll go a step further, Ryback is quite possibly my favorite wrestler in terms of his attire.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Aug 29, 2014 16:28:42 GMT -5
The singlets are awesome and set him apart visually. Granted, they are evocative of RVD, but Rob got over as hell himself. Then again, many of my favorite guys have been singlet guys: Perfect, Angle, Swagger etc.
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Post by bigjohnsons on Aug 29, 2014 20:18:16 GMT -5
I like the singlets .... Almost adds like a 90s Comic Book Feel to he's character
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Aug 29, 2014 20:20:25 GMT -5
Ryback's time came at an odd place, and maybe he should've been part of the plans changing, or maybe he should've been cooled off a bit. But they didn't just cool him, they dumped him in the Arctic. He should've crushed Miz or whoever was IC Champ (Was it Miz or Barrett?)right after TLC. Ryback could've been a Warrior like IC Champ through Mania and then done a face vs face program with Cena till the rise of Bryan. Miz dropped the IC belt to Kofi and then they started building to his face turn.
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