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Post by benstudd on Aug 30, 2014 1:23:19 GMT -5
-I think Bray Wyatt is overrated on the mic and underrated in the ring.
-Reigns doesn't need more moves, he needs less moves. He needs to get rid of his three moves of Doom, concentrate on being a good brawler and use the power bomb as finisher.
-Sorry Bryan, I like you as a wrestler but I want the Top wrestler of the company to look good/have a good presentation.
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Patti Mayonnaise
Had one once
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Aug 30, 2014 1:32:29 GMT -5
-The New Generation Era is quite underrated.
-Ric Flair felt more of a natural fit in the WWF then he did in WCW.
-He will always be a big favorite of mine, but The Undertaker was very much akin to someone like Kamala or The Great Kabuki in that he was a spectacle wrestler needed a good hand in the ring to have a decent match and was lousy when he was not.
-I'm also a big fan of Steve Austin as well, but had injuries not derailed him, the fans would have eventually turned on him.
-I support CM Punk leaving. This stupid mentality that wrestlers owe everything to DIS BUISNESS is stupid and outdated and Punk owed nothing to nobody.
-Bret Hart is the standard on how a main event face should be booked.
-Roman Reigns is going to be a better torchbearer then John Cena is. A pity, like Cena, he will develop into a truly skilled wrestler a year or two after everybody's sick of him.
-There was no real way The Ultimate Warrior could have ever truly taken the torch from Hulk Hogan.
-Lord Tensai was a clear indicator how backwards and outdated Vince is regarding Japanese wrestling.
-Speaking of, the quicker Vinny Mac is put out to pasture, the better.
-The Miz was totally f***ed over at WrestleMania 27. However, why they made a perfect chickenshit heel a tough guy heel is a mystery to me.
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Post by turkeysandwich on Aug 30, 2014 1:56:08 GMT -5
I fully appreciate the art of wrestling, and I love to see great matches, but I'd prefer it if Raw was mostly just talking and vignettes to set up feuds, than having to watch match after match. A card of matches should only be reserved for PPV. It annoys me when people complain that there's only been X minutes of wrestling in hour Y of Raw.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Aug 30, 2014 2:38:10 GMT -5
I like Renee Young's "Bitches be crazy amirite gaiz?" commentary.
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Post by Nr1Humanoid on Aug 30, 2014 5:50:44 GMT -5
Summer Rae looks like a drag queen. Ditto on Summer Rae. Looks like a transgender person who started their puberty blockers too late. I'm not Summer Rae's biggest fan and her face looks kinda weird when she smiles, but I'm convinced that you two have never seen a real drag queen or a pre-op transgender in your lives. On topic: I'm still trying to find that ass that AJ Lee supposedly has. Or maybe the jerk store ran out of me and I simply don't do research before posting bad jokes.
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 30, 2014 5:53:52 GMT -5
I have difficulty understanding how many so many people made it this far in life without discovering that taste is subjective, and that there's basically a body shape, style of dress, etc, for most everyone. Even people I am not personally interested in, I can't really think of anyone on the roster where I couldn't see the appeal to someone.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2014 6:59:39 GMT -5
I enjoy every time Wade Barrett is featured briefly and then depushed/jobbed.
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King Koopa
didn't want one.
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Post by Magnus the Magnificent on Aug 30, 2014 7:41:19 GMT -5
Other than the comedy, and even that was hit-or-miss a lot of times, I think Bobby Heenan was a poor commentator. Sorry, that's "Broadcast Journalist". Jesse Ventura was much, much better.
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Post by Jimichiro Likes Erick Rowan on Aug 30, 2014 8:39:04 GMT -5
I fully appreciate the art of wrestling, and I love to see great matches, but I'd prefer it if Raw was mostly just talking and vignettes to set up feuds, than having to watch match after match. A card of matches should only be reserved for PPV. It annoys me when people complain that there's only been X minutes of wrestling in hour Y of Raw. I fast forward through most of the matches anyway so I get this point. I think it was some time last year or in 2012, I think it was Kofi & Cesaro or it was Kofi & Dolph, they had this fantastic match (at least according to everyone on this forum). I got about a minute into the match before I paused the match and thought out loud "so what?" Kofi & Cesaro are having a 20 minute TV match that steals the show, but for what? Kofi's just going to lose in 4 minutes the following week and Cesaro's going to be on Main Event. I just can't get into a match, no matter the quality, when nothing is on the line. Also, IMO there should only be 2-3 matches a year that go beyond 20 minutes and they should all be on pay-per-view. It wouldn't hurt if some of the b-level pay-per-views were headlined with a tag team or a 6 man tag match.
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Post by mrjl on Aug 30, 2014 9:30:15 GMT -5
wrestling matches don't need backstory or future repercussions to mean anything
being in the midcard is fine
seeing the same guys fight over and over only sucks if they have bad matches
titles are a good reward for someone being entertaining whether they get defended often or not
rebuilding a heel is easy
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Post by Square on Aug 30, 2014 9:33:20 GMT -5
Bret Hart's the most vastly overrated wrestler in history, if it wasn't for his family and the steroids trial he never would have even made the IC title.
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Post by mrjl on Aug 30, 2014 9:46:40 GMT -5
Bret Hart's the most vastly overrated wrestler in history, if it wasn't for his family and the steroids trial he never would have even made the IC title. he won the IC title almost a year and a half before the steroid trial
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Post by Mid-Carder on Aug 30, 2014 9:51:22 GMT -5
Bret Hart's the most vastly overrated wrestler in history, if it wasn't for his family and the steroids trial he never would have even made the IC title. The steroid trials probably helped him get to the world title level but he was arguably the most over guy on the roster, despite what Vince wanted. The 1990s Daniel Bryan
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Post by Square on Aug 30, 2014 9:53:06 GMT -5
Bret Hart's the most vastly overrated wrestler in history, if it wasn't for his family and the steroids trial he never would have even made the IC title. he won the IC title almost a year and a half before the steroid trial He was still the reason why Vince was able to get into Alberta though
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Post by mrjl on Aug 30, 2014 9:59:07 GMT -5
he won the IC title almost a year and a half before the steroid trial He was still the reason why Vince was able to get into Alberta though five years or so earlier. Neidhart didn't go anywhere for around another year. They could have kept the Hart Foundation together if they didn't think Bret deserved a singles push. And then formed the Hart Brothers with Owen It's fine if you think he's overrated. I'm just saying your logic of why he got any singles push is flawed
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Post by Mid-Carder on Aug 30, 2014 10:02:53 GMT -5
I think WWE is right with pretending Benoit never existed. I also find it very hard to watch his matches now, and I was a big fan of his
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Post by Captain & Diet on Aug 30, 2014 10:14:30 GMT -5
I absolutely loved Matt Striker on commentary.
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Post by Nikki Heyman on Aug 30, 2014 10:14:52 GMT -5
I understand why they don't talk about/advertise him on TV or the Network (and supplied the disclaimer) but if they didn't include Benoit footage I would not have subscribed to the Network.
Many of my DVD decisions were made (no buys) because he was excluded.
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Post by StuntGranny® on Aug 30, 2014 10:19:54 GMT -5
Just a disclaimer so no one gets too pissed off: My opinions are pretty stupid and I apologize for you reading them (if you chose to do so).
- I still love Hulk Hogan. I know what he's done backstage, but on screen he's one of the last reminders I have from a time when wrestling was fun and entertaining. I get as excited as a little kid every time 'Real American' hits.
- I loathe/detest/hate/etc. Brock Lesnar and Paul Heyman. I don't think it was possible for the WWE to find two wrestling personalities I detest more and put them together. Lesnar is a big, stupid goof who has always been extremely overrated and Paul Heyman is a seedy piece of shit who's responsible for a highly overrated wrestling company. Speaking of which...
- No sure how 'unpopular' it is, but I think ending the streak (certainly having Brock Lesnar do it) was one of the the worst things the WWE has ever done. I haven't really cared about WWE's product since and I doubt I'll ever get that into it again.
- WCW (besides the last pitiful days) was always leagues better than the WWE. As silly as it sounds, I've always thought of NWA/WCW as 'real' wrestling. I'm sure a lot of this has to do with the fact I grew up near Atlanta. I guess I was brainwashed.
- For all the grief I've given John Cena over the years, he's nowhere near as awful as Roman Reigns. I'd rather have a year long John Cena title reign than a five minute Roman Reigns one.
- I don't care how old he is, the only thing that has me tuning in right now is the slight possibility of Sting's debut.
- Natalya is easily the best Diva in the WWE. I think it's weird that most of the hate aimed at her is over a character she portrays on an obviously scripted 'reality' show.
- Vince McMahon ruined professional wrestling in America.
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Post by RowdyRobbyPiper on Aug 30, 2014 10:24:05 GMT -5
Bret Hart's the most vastly overrated wrestler in history, if it wasn't for his family and the steroids trial he never would have even made the IC title. The steroid trials probably helped him get to the world title level but he was arguably the most over guy on the roster, despite what Vince wanted. The 1990s Daniel Bryan The more things change....
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