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Post by JDviant on Aug 30, 2014 21:01:31 GMT -5
How can it NOT be AJ? I love Paige, but AJ has been a part of several main event feuds and has been the focal point of RAW in the past. AJ already as successful as the top women in the companies past, and it'd be hard enough for anyone male or female to match the level of attention she was getting a couple of years ago.
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Post by fazzle on Aug 30, 2014 21:20:58 GMT -5
We're talking about overall success, not future success, right? In that case, AJ *easily.* She had the entire show written around her for almost a full year, THEN she had a divas title reign that lasted another year. No diva will ever come close to that again.
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Post by Pillman's Pencil on Aug 30, 2014 21:32:39 GMT -5
How can it NOT be AJ? I love Paige, but AJ has been a part of several main event feuds and has been the focal point of RAW in the past. AJ already as successful as the top women in the companies past, and it'd be hard enough for anyone male or female to match the level of attention she was getting a couple of years ago. Look what Paige has done in less than 6 months on the main roster at just 21/22 years old, if she's doing this now she's going to be huge once she gets to AJ's age, AJ is not as good in the ring as Lita/Trish where as Paige potentially is, AJ didn't exactly do it by herself either she was paired with the likes of Ziggler/Bryan/Punk/Kane/Cena etc and had a lot of help in getting that attention. Paige did it on her own. Ever since AJ has been on her own since she came back she has been a let down like her mind isn't focused at the task at hand, where since Paige turned heel she's won a lot of people over.
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Post by gl83 on Aug 30, 2014 21:47:29 GMT -5
We're talking about overall success, not future success, right? In that case, AJ *easily.* She had the entire show written around her for almost a full year, THEN she had a divas title reign that lasted another year. No diva will ever come close to that again. Don't forget main-eventing Raw and setting up the defining moment in the main event of a PPV. Paige, I feel is just going to be like Molly Holly or Victoria and just be kept inside the division, which is going to limit her. Even now, she's playing second-banana to the Bellas. She might get a few more title reigns, but she's not going to be above the diva division like Trish, Lita, and in recent times, AJ and Eve did.
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Post by JTG Fan on Aug 30, 2014 21:51:42 GMT -5
AJ's storyline in 2012 helped her get the whole crazy shtick over, but in the long term it hasn't meant dick. Nobody even remembers that she was RAW GM or refereed main event matches and things like that, so it seems kind of silly to count them as reaching some great levels of success. Stephanie did that stuff too, doesn't mean she has had or will ever have as successful a career as Trish Stratus.
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Post by Pillman's Pencil on Aug 30, 2014 22:14:07 GMT -5
We're talking about overall success, not future success, right? In that case, AJ *easily.* She had the entire show written around her for almost a full year, THEN she had a divas title reign that lasted another year. No diva will ever come close to that again. Don't forget main-eventing Raw and setting up the defining moment in the main event of a PPV. Paige, I feel is just going to be like Molly Holly or Victoria and just be kept inside the division, which is going to limit her. Even now, she's playing second-banana to the Bellas. She might get a few more title reigns, but she's not going to be above the diva division like Trish, Lita, and in recent times, AJ and Eve did. Yeah but they have made sure that means nothing now.
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Post by PsychoGoatee on Aug 30, 2014 22:24:37 GMT -5
I vote AJ, but Paige is quite the dapper young lady she should have a bright career ahead
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Post by Sparkybob on Aug 30, 2014 22:29:26 GMT -5
How can it NOT be AJ? I love Paige, but AJ has been a part of several main event feuds and has been the focal point of RAW in the past. AJ already as successful as the top women in the companies past, and it'd be hard enough for anyone male or female to match the level of attention she was getting a couple of years ago. Look what Paige has done in less than 6 months on the main roster at just 21/22 years old, if she's doing this now she's going to be huge once she gets to AJ's age, AJ is not as good in the ring as Lita/Trish where as Paige potentially is, AJ didn't exactly do it by herself either she was paired with the likes of Ziggler/Bryan/Punk/Kane/Cena etc and had a lot of help in getting that attention. Paige did it on her own. Ever since AJ has been on her own since she came back she has been a let down like her mind isn't focused at the task at hand, where since Paige turned heel she's won a lot of people over. Not sure what age has to do with it. Longevity is nice and all but I find impact much more meaningful than how long you stuck around and AJ in 2012 was much more meaningful than I can imagine Paige ever getting in the next couple of years.
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Post by Pillman's Pencil on Aug 30, 2014 22:36:02 GMT -5
Look what Paige has done in less than 6 months on the main roster at just 21/22 years old, if she's doing this now she's going to be huge once she gets to AJ's age, AJ is not as good in the ring as Lita/Trish where as Paige potentially is, AJ didn't exactly do it by herself either she was paired with the likes of Ziggler/Bryan/Punk/Kane/Cena etc and had a lot of help in getting that attention. Paige did it on her own. Ever since AJ has been on her own since she came back she has been a let down like her mind isn't focused at the task at hand, where since Paige turned heel she's won a lot of people over. Not sure what age has to do with it. Longevity is nice and all but I find impact much more meaningful than how long you stuck around and AJ in 2012 was much more meaningful than I can imagine Paige ever getting in the next couple of years. Right because she was paired with the top guys, Paige was not and she's accomplished as much as AJ in less than 6 months of being on the main roster (more if you count her NXT titles as well)
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Post by The Trashman on Aug 30, 2014 22:48:04 GMT -5
We're talking about overall success, not future success, right? In that case, AJ *easily.* She had the entire show written around her for almost a full year, THEN she had a divas title reign that lasted another year. No diva will ever come close to that again. AJ was in some big storylines but the entire show written around her for a year? Not even close.
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Post by Pgarodactyl on Aug 30, 2014 22:58:08 GMT -5
Not sure what age has to do with it. Longevity is nice and all but I find impact much more meaningful than how long you stuck around and AJ in 2012 was much more meaningful than I can imagine Paige ever getting in the next couple of years. Right because she was paired with the top guys, Paige was not and she's accomplished as much as AJ in less than 6 months of being on the main roster (more if you count her NXT titles as well) To be fair, if you're going to count Paige's NXT Title* (only one, not two), you have to count AJ's FCW titles (Queen of FCW and Diva's Champion).
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Post by Sparkybob on Aug 30, 2014 23:15:07 GMT -5
Not sure what age has to do with it. Longevity is nice and all but I find impact much more meaningful than how long you stuck around and AJ in 2012 was much more meaningful than I can imagine Paige ever getting in the next couple of years. Right because she was paired with the top guys, Paige was not and she's accomplished as much as AJ in less than 6 months of being on the main roster (more if you count her NXT titles as well) Are you just using title wins? Because that doesn't mean a greater career. AJ has unquestionable made a bigger impact in her time in the WWE than Paige has. In the near future as well too unless there is a complete overhaul in the booking direction.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Aug 30, 2014 23:24:14 GMT -5
Paige. Charlotte is really talented, but let's be honest, she's also pretty damned ugly. That will hold her back in WWE, whether it's ethical or not.
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Post by Pillman's Pencil on Aug 31, 2014 0:44:54 GMT -5
Right because she was paired with the top guys, Paige was not and she's accomplished as much as AJ in less than 6 months of being on the main roster (more if you count her NXT titles as well) Are you just using title wins? Because that doesn't mean a greater career. AJ has unquestionable made a bigger impact in her time in the WWE than Paige has. In the near future as well too unless there is a complete overhaul in the booking direction. Yup and again AJ was paired with the top draws of the company because there really was nobody else other than Kaitlyn to work with due to Total Divas and that hoopla, she had help. Paige did not, she's achieved as much as AJ has only 6 months into her main WWE career, all the below whilst Vince 'doesn't get her' apparently, the company obviously rate Paige as a potentially huge star and as someone who can make the company a lot of money, and by giving her the title reigns and history making stats, they have a lot of stock in her thats why a company not just WWE puts a belt on someone, they're investing in you. AJ LeeLongest Divas Champion FCW Divas Champion 2x Champion PaigeYoungest ever Divas Champion 1st NXT Womens Champion (held for 308 days, whilst she is the longest reigning champion its not worth mentioning as only her and Charlotte have held the title) Held both NXT Womens and Divas Titles at the same time. 2x Champion By just reading that, Paige is very well liked among higher ups and the board even if Vince 'doesn't get her'.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2014 2:19:54 GMT -5
AJ is on borrowed time as it is and not even Ric Flair as a father can make up for Charlotte's...erm...looks. Being not so attractive is a good thing for her. WWE has no shortage of cutie-pies to ogle, Charlotte has a different vibe. She seems like she's channeling Sara Del Rey with her lack of girliness, I love it.
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Post by gr1990 on Aug 31, 2014 3:01:04 GMT -5
I maintain that if you met any of these 'ugly' Divas like Summer or Charlotte in real life, you'd be like 'dayum.' Sure they probably won't be landing any modelling contracts, but then Paige and AJ aren't exactly mainstream hot either, doesn't mean they're not beautiful women. The fact that people still act almost personally offended when a Diva isn't to their taste looks-wise and can't stop pointing it out shows how far we still have left to go in terms of them being considered purely in wrestling terms.
Anyhoo, I doubt either Paige or Charlotte will achieve the prominence AJ did in 2012, and that's probably for the best seeing as that was total overkill, but I can see them both being a staple of the Divas division for years to come. Paige has the talent, the distinctive look and youth on her side. Charlotte has the family connections that should nullify any of her negatives holding her back, again she doesn't look like the other girls which is always a good thing, plus her rate of improvement in the ring suggests she could be at the top of the Divas division on merit in a couple of years' time anyway.
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Post by Professor Chaos on Aug 31, 2014 3:04:49 GMT -5
I didn't realize so many people thought of Charlotte as ugly. Her body is no doubt bangin. I can see how some may not like her face because at certain angles she looks a lot like Ric, that wouldn't stop me though.
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Post by Johnny on Aug 31, 2014 3:22:16 GMT -5
The question was "will have the most success" not "has had the most success".
I don't imagine AJ will be around in 5 years, whereas the other 2 I think will be. Now that doesn't mean they'll be more successful, but they both have the potential.
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Post by Abdullah on Aug 31, 2014 5:12:44 GMT -5
I don't understand people who say AJ's huge push in 2012 doesn't matter anymore. They're not constantly mentioning it, nor should they, but it was the entire basis of her promo on Total Divas.
She would have never gotten a year-long reign without it. Paige would have never gotten that debut without AJ being an established character. It matters. It would be like saying Cena's early accolades don't count anymore.
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Post by Dat Dude on Aug 31, 2014 5:24:33 GMT -5
If title runs gauge success, Paige. If it's involvement in main event angles, being given the chance to work with big-name talent and making the most money out of merch, AJ. My thoughts exactly. Charlotte having some resemblance with Summer Rae could hurt them both. Charlotte gonna get pushed due to nepotism, but Summer is clearly more polished and charismatic of the two.
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