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Post by mrjl on Sept 2, 2014 16:01:03 GMT -5
no, no that's not safe to say. And if they thought they'd booked him poorly then they wouldn't have shown bits of Cena kicking his ass I don't think Bray is being buried myself, but how would showing Cena kicking his ass prove that they're not booking him improperly? it shows this in their opinions they are booking him fine, because they aren't attempting to hide the way they booked him. It's not about whether they are or not but what they think of what they've done
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Post by bluemeii on Sept 2, 2014 16:08:49 GMT -5
Yes OP. Totally missed the backstage segment he had and them hyping a cage match with Jericho next week. Nope no mention of him whatsoever, must mean he's burrrrrieed now.
Yeah he didn't have a match last night his career is over.....He'll be in the bunny costume from here on out now cause he wasn't wrestling this week.
Oh yeah...LOL
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Sept 2, 2014 18:15:42 GMT -5
I don't think Bray is being buried myself, but how would showing Cena kicking his ass prove that they're not booking him improperly? it shows this in their opinions they are booking him fine, because they aren't attempting to hide the way they booked him. It's not about whether they are or not but what they think of what they've done This makes no sense whatsoever. Please clarify.
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Post by cabbageboy on Sept 2, 2014 18:19:55 GMT -5
I don't think they know what to do with the Wyatts. Much like Cesaro they felt these guys were "above" certain midcard belts and thus they didn't win them (tag titles), or with Bray he didn't really do much in the ladder match. WWE just doesn't know how to book an upper midcard act anymore, especially one that isn't really about titles.
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Post by mrjl on Sept 2, 2014 21:04:39 GMT -5
it shows this in their opinions they are booking him fine, because they aren't attempting to hide the way they booked him. It's not about whether they are or not but what they think of what they've done This makes no sense whatsoever. Please clarify. whether or not they actually are booking Wyatt wrong is a matter of opinion. If WWE believed they made a mistake by having Cena manhandle Bray they have the power to limit how much it's seen by not showing replays and not referencing it on TV except maybe in the most cursory way so they still get to talk about Cena winning the match without getting into the gory details Yet here they are showing clips from it, the same night they announce Bray will be in a steel cage against Jericho on the night Monday Night Football resumes. I'd say that suggests confidence in Bray Wyatt, which they wouldn't have if they thought his gimmick had been killed by his beating against Cena
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Sept 2, 2014 21:59:01 GMT -5
This makes no sense whatsoever. Please clarify. whether or not they actually are booking Wyatt wrong is a matter of opinion. If WWE believed they made a mistake by having Cena manhandle Bray they have the power to limit how much it's seen by not showing replays and not referencing it on TV except maybe in the most cursory way so they still get to talk about Cena winning the match without getting into the gory details Yet here they are showing clips from it, the same night they announce Bray will be in a steel cage against Jericho on the night Monday Night Football resumes. I'd say that suggests confidence in Bray Wyatt, which they wouldn't have if they thought his gimmick had been killed by his beating against Cena Again, I do not in any way think that Bray is being buried, but showing him getting annihilated effortlessly by Cena absolutely does not convey any evidence that WWE has confidence in him. He was in no way framed in any sort of positive light that make people think WWE were planning something big for him. He was cannon-fodder.
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Post by mrjl on Sept 2, 2014 22:30:00 GMT -5
whether or not they actually are booking Wyatt wrong is a matter of opinion. If WWE believed they made a mistake by having Cena manhandle Bray they have the power to limit how much it's seen by not showing replays and not referencing it on TV except maybe in the most cursory way so they still get to talk about Cena winning the match without getting into the gory details Yet here they are showing clips from it, the same night they announce Bray will be in a steel cage against Jericho on the night Monday Night Football resumes. I'd say that suggests confidence in Bray Wyatt, which they wouldn't have if they thought his gimmick had been killed by his beating against Cena Again, I do not in any way think that Bray is being buried, but showing him getting annihilated effortlessly by Cena absolutely does not convey any evidence that WWE has confidence in him. He was in no way framed in any sort of positive light that make people think WWE were planning something big for him. He was cannon-fodder. Cena got annihilated by Brock. Think they have confidence in him? Dean AMbrose got his face driven into cinderblock and had a eulogy. Think they have confidence in him?
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Sept 2, 2014 22:39:46 GMT -5
Again, I do not in any way think that Bray is being buried, but showing him getting annihilated effortlessly by Cena absolutely does not convey any evidence that WWE has confidence in him. He was in no way framed in any sort of positive light that make people think WWE were planning something big for him. He was cannon-fodder. Cena got annihilated by Brock. Think they have confidence in him? Dean AMbrose got his face driven into cinderblock and had a eulogy. Think they have confidence in him? Ya, but Cena had to come out the next week unscathed in their minds and destroy the Wyatts to get his edge back. Wyaat got no such moment. Your argument was that showing Wyatt getting the shit kicked out of him somehow proved WWE had faith and confidence in him. And there's no proof to that. I mean, they very well still could, but it was NOT in any way evident by that footage. That's all anyone is saying.
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Post by hunterbusax on Sept 2, 2014 22:47:52 GMT -5
Again, I do not in any way think that Bray is being buried, but showing him getting annihilated effortlessly by Cena absolutely does not convey any evidence that WWE has confidence in him. He was in no way framed in any sort of positive light that make people think WWE were planning something big for him. He was cannon-fodder. Cena got annihilated by Brock. Think they have confidence in him? Dean AMbrose got his face driven into cinderblock and had a eulogy. Think they have confidence in him? Both of those beatings were to push a feud to tye next PPV . Cena vs Bray has been over for awhile an that feud did bray no favors. Bray getting beat down wasn't a burial but it does show that maybe there losing faith in him as main event material.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Sept 2, 2014 23:04:10 GMT -5
It's definitely a sign that they've cooled off on him for now. But as I keep saying, it's nothing he can't recover from.
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Post by Captain & Diet on Sept 2, 2014 23:23:44 GMT -5
I bet he was injured.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Sept 3, 2014 0:41:50 GMT -5
Bray also wasn't on the night after Summerslam. He probably worked the dark main event.
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Post by Macho Pichu on Sept 3, 2014 0:46:43 GMT -5
I mean, yeah, Rowan and Harper were on, in a losing effort of course, but they didn't even bother trying to showcase Bray whatsoever. Safe to say he has no future anymore? I wouldn't go that far, but he needs some fixing Give him a decent feud and he should be fine, hell give him big show. If he took down show then he'd look dominant again. I know big show has lost nearly every feud he's been in but he's still seen as a huge threat so I think he'll be good for him. For some reason, I really like this idea. Personally, I'd be building everything around Bray, but for now, a feud with Big Show seems like a good way to get him rolling again. Hopefully, this comes with a few week to week wins.
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Post by Ash Kingston on Sept 3, 2014 8:15:51 GMT -5
...why would you people put Bray (and the Wyatts) in a feud with Big Show?
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Post by Jiren on Sept 3, 2014 10:54:50 GMT -5
...why would you people put Bray (and the Wyatts) in a feud with Big Show? A) He's a big name B) Still seen as a big threat to who he's facing C) still over with the audience D) Him losing to Wyatt would not do any damage to him but could really help Wyatt Granted it has to be well booked and knowing WWE's booking.......yeah
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Sept 3, 2014 13:34:25 GMT -5
...why would you people put Bray (and the Wyatts) in a feud with Big Show? A) He's a big name B) Still seen as a big threat to who he's facing C) still over with the audience D) Him losing to Wyatt would not do any damage to him but could really help Wyatt Granted it has to be well booked and knowing WWE's booking.......yeah I get all that, but I'm tired of Big Show. I want to see Big Show step down to the midcard rather than be thrown at a guy they'd likely be propping up as a threat (albeit poorly) with or without him. I'd rather see assorted people stepping UP to Bray only to get knocked down.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Sept 3, 2014 13:58:00 GMT -5
He isn't buried, but the entire family has been made to look like idiots. They haven't won 1 feud really. I guess you could point to Bray beating Bryan, but the latter went on to Mania with no harm done.
Kane, Bryan, Cena, the Shield, the Usos...not a single feud has left any effects on any opponents.
The Wyatts were one of my favorite parts of the show; but it's very clear that right now nothing they do matters.
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Post by dangerousdanpotato on Sept 3, 2014 17:05:27 GMT -5
Seeing as Jericho is scheduled to be leaving again soon I expect there'll be a big angle to write him off that will put the spotlight back on Bray.
Bray is well on track IMO; maybe a new 'mission statement' after the Jericho fued is done would be beneficial.
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Sept 3, 2014 21:41:50 GMT -5
Why are people acting like it's this crazy overreaction that a wrestler's mystique can take a permanent hit from lots of bad booking? LOL BERRIED ha ha I get it but um, sometimes people DO get booked into oblivion and then fans give up on them, and then management gives up on them because the fans stopped caring. That happens, for real. A lot. Why's it silly to worry about for Bray?
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Post by bluemeii on Sept 3, 2014 21:46:34 GMT -5
He isn't buried, but the entire family has been made to look like idiots. They haven't won 1 feud really. I guess you could point to Bray beating Bryan, but the latter went on to Mania with no harm done. Kane, Bryan, Cena, the Shield, the Usos...not a single feud has left any effects on any opponents. The Wyatts were one of my favorite parts of the show; but it's very clear that right now nothing they do matters. True but do any feuds matter in the long run anymore? I mean I'm talking about the aftereffects of the feud. Only in the rarest of cases does it happen where there is an effect of losing. Guys don't lose the blood feud and go away anymore. They just start the next one.
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