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Post by Joe Neglia on Sept 17, 2014 19:27:03 GMT -5
Even without the cocaine/drugs, Kerry wasn't the brightest bulb in the box. He also didn't politic a lot; that's what his dad was for, and without Fritz there, he'd be lost. He was unreliable, didn't show up all the time and would have likely become homesick very quickly.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Sept 17, 2014 19:37:01 GMT -5
Even without the cocaine/drugs, Kerry wasn't the brightest bulb in the box. He also didn't politic a lot; that's what his dad was for, and without Fritz there, he'd be lost. He was unreliable, didn't show up all the time and would have likely become homesick very quickly. That's also another problem he would had ran into: being a small fish in the shark filled ocean of WWF after spending years of being the catfish of a small pond. A lot of people from the territories found out real quick that things were different in New York City. Few are looking out for your best interests and it's dog eat dog.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Sept 17, 2014 19:54:13 GMT -5
You also have to look at what the NWA was looking for in a world champ. They wanted guys who were experienced and okay with the hellish travel they'd have to endure, jumping all over the states and beyond constantly. Outside of a brief stint in Florida, Kerry hadn't proved himself capable of that. His only travel was to other Texas-area and nearby promotions (Mid-South, Amarillo). Also, was during a time before Crockett monopolized the belt, and the champ (barring short-term champs like Rich and (then) Dusty) needed to be someone who could play both heel and face, depending on how the promotion that needed him wished to utilize him.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Sept 17, 2014 21:20:39 GMT -5
It's hardly related to anything, but Kerry always looked like someone shaved a Cro-Magnon or something to me: I mean, dude was chiseled from granite, but something about his face looked like an evolutionary throwback. Maybe it was his jawline or something. Couple that with the fact that in promos he came off as a little dumb, and he seemed really caveman-ish to me. Or like if you were to throw him in a loincloth and just call him Tarzan, I'd go-- "Yeah, that fits."
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Post by Hit Girl on Sept 17, 2014 21:29:51 GMT -5
More pressure
Would have been dead far earlier.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Sept 17, 2014 22:09:57 GMT -5
You also have to look at what the NWA was looking for in a world champ. They wanted guys who were experienced and okay with the hellish travel they'd have to endure, jumping all over the states and beyond constantly. Outside of a brief stint in Florida, Kerry hadn't proved himself capable of that. His only travel was to other Texas-area and nearby promotions (Mid-South, Amarillo). Also, was during a time before Crockett monopolized the belt, and the champ (barring short-term champs like Rich and (then) Dusty) needed to be someone who could play both heel and face, depending on how the promotion that needed him wished to utilize him. Kinda like how if you held the AWA world title, you had to be a technical wrestling guru. Or married to Vern's daughter. Kerry was like a music act that is great regionally but not ready to take the tour nation wide.
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Post by Sir Woodrow on Sept 18, 2014 0:09:41 GMT -5
Kerry to me looked like what would happen if you gave one of the Bee Gees a shitload of roids
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Post by Boo! on Sept 18, 2014 0:26:24 GMT -5
Kerry to me looked like what would happen if you gave one of the Bee Gees a shitload of roids *resists 'Stayin' Alive' joke*
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Post by Clawley Race on Sept 18, 2014 0:34:44 GMT -5
Kerry to me looked like what would happen if you gave one of the Bee Gees a shitload of roids *resists 'Stayin' Alive' joke* That's why Monsoon is the best. Jim Ross would have definitely made a tasteless joke.
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Sept 18, 2014 2:44:00 GMT -5
Maybe, just maybe, it could have saved his life. He would have been away from Fritz and the awful mess that was World Class that sunk his brothers. Vince would keep him on a tight leash, maybe hire a minder for him. Or else, he would have blown it, gotten fired, and killed himself anyway.
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Post by Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster on Sept 18, 2014 3:13:25 GMT -5
It would been a total disaster as lets face it Kerry spent the vast majority of his career as a drug addicted f*** up and its not a good idea to put the pressure of being the number guy who carries the company on a person who is a drug addicted f*** up.
Also like the others here have said if Kerry did crash and burn from being placed in the Hogan slot, he would of most likely killed himself a lot sooner.
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Post by willywonka666 on Sept 18, 2014 8:43:10 GMT -5
There are a lot of variables here-for one thing, Kerry might not have gotten a chance to abuse drugs if he was the man in the WWF-sure a lot of others did, but to have such a busy schedule, I think that maybe his life would have taken a different course. Sure there would be baggage from the family, but it's not to say his life wouldn't have taken a completely different route.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2014 4:56:27 GMT -5
Being as unreliable to show up in a condition to work as he was excludes Kerry Von Erich from any real discussion about this topic. Hogan was like Cena is now during his era, in that he was not only over with the fan base and selling merchandise & tickets, but he was someone who they had confidence in to be the public face of the company, do constant press, etc. That is, until the steroid mess happened. But even after that, it was only the occasional comical "Hogan exaggeration" as his main flaw amist doing generally well in public appearances and reliably making it to shows and appearing for the company.
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Post by Boo! on Sept 19, 2014 7:29:43 GMT -5
His promos were quite goofy in WWE. Maybe they weren't before he got there but I can't imagine his promos selling many tickets. His only personality trait seemed to be that odd sneer thing he'd do.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Sept 19, 2014 13:33:04 GMT -5
Vince trusted Hogan. He would never be able to trust Kerry.
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Post by mizerable on Sept 19, 2014 13:35:58 GMT -5
I guess he'd hit the legdrop with one leg...
...while eating a cheeseburger.
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Post by Blindkarevik on Sept 19, 2014 14:08:43 GMT -5
Hogan's charisma was off the charts... like freakishly off the charts. He believed in his gimmick so much he could turn it on and off at will, and at all public appearances he was on. Hogan sold the WWF as much as the WWF sold Hogan. It was a mutually beneficial partnership and Hogan's hold over a crowd, and especially kids, was just incredible.
Kerry would've had a great run, but I doubt he would've been what pushed WWF into the stratosphere. I could see him doing very well in an Ultimate Warrior role where he played second fiddle to Hogan and people wanted to work towards a dream match between the two. But, on his own, he was just too unreliable to be the 24/7/365 guy WWF needed, that Hogan was able to provide brilliantly.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2014 14:18:22 GMT -5
This is not a knock against Kerry, who I actually liked, but Kerry was not even close to Ultimate Warrior. Warrior had mad charisma and promo skills that were right up there with Hogan. Kerry was just not in the same tier as Hogan or Warrior. In fact, he wasn't even in the same tier as Piper, Jake, Macho, Rude, or Luger. In big ponds like WWE or Jim Crockett Promotions, Kerry was a US title chaser at very best.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Sept 19, 2014 14:51:34 GMT -5
ok for argument sake let's say that Vince manages to keep Kerry from f***ing up, then Gagne still has Hogan and actually puts the belt on him. It would've been a cool war, but I think the AWA would've won it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2014 15:03:31 GMT -5
ok for argument sake let's say that Vince manages to keep Kerry from f***ing up, then Gagne still has Hogan and actually puts the belt on him. It would've been a cool war, but I think the AWA would've won it. That would've been interesting, but I still think Vince would have ultimately come up the winner. The reason I say that is because Verne's success in the 80's was sort of in spite of himself. Hogan would have given them a nice boost, but I don't think Verne would have known what to do with it, just like he didn't know what to do with the Road Warriors when they were boosting the AWA after Hogan left. Vince had the vision, and I still think he would have made it. It might not have exploded like it did in the 80's with Hogan, but neither would Hogan have exploded in the AWA like he did working for Vince. Ultimately, I still think Vince would have outlasted Verne.
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