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Post by Redbeard's Ghost on Sept 17, 2014 12:47:26 GMT -5
As far as I know, WWE owns all of the tapes from Verne Gagne. Does anyone know differently? If so, why aren't we getting AWA shows on the network? I know many younger fans remember the AWA as a low-budget promotion from its late 80s ESPN run, but prior to 1987 the AWA was a dynamite show. I would love to see 1976-1983 AWA shows and I think from a historical perspective that time period of the AWA holds a ton of importance. So many stars began their careers there, and pretty much anything with Nick Bockwinkel involved is worth watching. I don't know if there has ever been a better stand-up promo guy than Bockwinkel.
C'mon WWE, start using that tape library better! AWA, USWA, Smoky Mountain..........so much to see!
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Sept 17, 2014 13:17:00 GMT -5
WWE owns the AWA tape library, but I have read that ESPN owns the footage from the old ESPN show.
I'm looking forward to Mid-South/UWF library being put-up personally.
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Post by Martin: #TeamBella Treasurer on Sept 17, 2014 14:11:11 GMT -5
I think WWE and ESPN might both own the footage, ESPN from the versions they aired back in the day, and WWE owns the master copies. Like RF Video and WWE both own a lot of the same ECW footage. If ESPN solely owns the AWA TV show, they could try and seek permission to air it. I'd love AWA stuff to go on the Network soon after the UK launch, just wonder how high a priority it is for digitising.
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Post by percymania on Sept 17, 2014 22:32:59 GMT -5
I remember watching AWA on ESPN Classic a few years back, but I have no idea about the situation now.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Sept 18, 2014 1:22:29 GMT -5
I really wish the WWE would load up some Supercards for these old territories in general. Not just the AWA, but places like Florida or Calgary, places that get almost no airtime unless they're looking to showcase a specific wrestler. I know uploading their entire library isn't feasible at the moment, but surely a sample show or two is possible.
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Post by Zach on Sept 18, 2014 7:26:47 GMT -5
I am sure it will come up eventually, right around the time most people's 6 month contract expires. The put the Monday Night War and Nitro stuff up right around the time a lot of us had to renew.
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Post by tonyftony716 on Sept 18, 2014 9:31:19 GMT -5
I am sure it will come up eventually, right around the time most people's 6 month contract expires. The put the Monday Night War and Nitro stuff up right around the time a lot of us had to renew. Yes they put up Nitro and the Monday Night Wars show around renewals because a large segment of fans wanted it. I doubt many people feel the same way about AWA footage. Not that I don't want it uploaded, I just wouldn't base your anticipation on receiving it as a perk around renewals. It won't be up in 2014 as it is not listed as programing that will be available on the WWE Network FAQ page. Perhaps next year? |
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Post by Zach on Sept 18, 2014 11:26:44 GMT -5
I am sure it will come up eventually, right around the time most people's 6 month contract expires. The put the Monday Night War and Nitro stuff up right around the time a lot of us had to renew. Yes they put up Nitro and the Monday Night Wars show around renewals because a large segment of fans wanted it. I doubt many people feel the same way about AWA footage. Not that I don't want it uploaded, I just wouldn't base your anticipation on receiving it as a perk around renewals. It won't be up in 2014 as it is not listed as programing that will be available on the WWE Network FAQ page. Perhaps next year? My guess is it will be one of those mid-period additions like they did with SNME |
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Sept 18, 2014 11:43:58 GMT -5
It probably all boils down to demand vs cost to convert to digital. Pretty sure it came out how much it costs to convert 1 hour of old footage to digital and if it's not gonna draw viewers they aren't going to prioritize it.
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Post by mattperiolat on Sept 19, 2014 9:54:03 GMT -5
I imagine it will come as fast as conversion from tape to digital allows. WWE has so much and demand is high. Priorities first - probably see WCW Saturday Night and Superstars before the AWA, only because of demand,
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Post by brody on Sept 21, 2014 4:27:50 GMT -5
"Every PPV ever" - except Superclash 88....
I would love for the Starcage, SuperClash 87 and Wrestlerock shows to be added.
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Post by Blindkarevik on Sept 23, 2014 16:02:11 GMT -5
Being from the Midwest, I grew up with AWA and watched it for years before I had even heard of WWF and was my go-to program for a few years after I discovered the WWF and NWA. If they put these up on the Network I'd be binging on them with rose-colored nostalgia.
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Post by DjZonk on Sept 24, 2014 11:27:44 GMT -5
The way the Network has gone, I wouldn't hold your breathe for AWA footage. It's such a minority of interest to most. They can't even get notable moments of their own content up, be it Raw's or house shows, former home videos etc.
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Post by James Fabiano on Sept 24, 2014 15:40:42 GMT -5
Part of the folly of Attitude Era fans flooding in by the late '90s, most of them don't remember the AWA.
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Post by rlm6370 on Sept 26, 2014 9:18:31 GMT -5
ESPN owns anything they broadcast AWA some USWA Global and UWF
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Post by cjh on Sept 26, 2014 9:49:36 GMT -5
ESPN owns anything they broadcast AWA some USWA Global and UWF They're allowed to re-air them, but WWE owns the AWA, USWA Dallas, and the GWF libraries (although WWE might not own all the GWF, just 1991/1992 footage). WWE has put out quite a bit of footage from the AWA's ESPN show on DVDs. There's an entire 1986 episode on YouTube right now that was taken from WWE Classics on Demand. |
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Post by rlm6370 on Sept 26, 2014 13:02:50 GMT -5
ESPN owns anything they broadcast AWA some USWA Global and UWF They're allowed to re-air them, but WWE owns the AWA, USWA Dallas, and the GWF libraries (although WWE might not own all the GWF, just 1991/1992 footage). WWE has put out quite a bit of footage from the AWA's ESPN show on DVDs. There's an entire 1986 episode on YouTube right now that was taken from WWE Classics on Demand. If WWE owned it outright do you think they would still let ESPN Classic broadcast it years after they bought the rights |
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Post by cjh on Sept 26, 2014 14:58:01 GMT -5
They're allowed to re-air them, but WWE owns the AWA, USWA Dallas, and the GWF libraries (although WWE might not own all the GWF, just 1991/1992 footage). WWE has put out quite a bit of footage from the AWA's ESPN show on DVDs. There's an entire 1986 episode on YouTube right now that was taken from WWE Classics on Demand. If WWE owned it outright do you think they would still let ESPN Classic broadcast it years after they bought the rights There's nothing WWE can do about it. The deal the AWA made with ESPN in the 1980s gave ESPN the right to re-broadcast the show forever. It doesn't change the fact that the Gagne family owned the master tapes and sold them to WWE along with all the non-ESPN AWA footage. WWE has released plenty of footage from the AWA's show on ESPN, going back to 2003 when they bought it from the Gagnes. |
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Post by rlm6370 on Sept 26, 2014 15:20:41 GMT -5
If WWE owned it outright do you think they would still let ESPN Classic broadcast it years after they bought the rights There's nothing WWE can do about it. The deal the AWA made with ESPN in the 1980s gave ESPN the right to re-broadcast the show forever. It doesn't change the fact that the Gagne family owned the master tapes and sold them to WWE along with all the non-ESPN AWA footage. WWE has released plenty of footage from the AWA's show on ESPN, going back to 2003 when they bought it from the Gagnes. So WWE doesn't own it outright, because ESPN Classic can show it forever along with some of the USWA and GWF and UWF. |
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Post by cjh on Sept 26, 2014 15:40:45 GMT -5
There's nothing WWE can do about it. The deal the AWA made with ESPN in the 1980s gave ESPN the right to re-broadcast the show forever. It doesn't change the fact that the Gagne family owned the master tapes and sold them to WWE along with all the non-ESPN AWA footage. WWE has released plenty of footage from the AWA's show on ESPN, going back to 2003 when they bought it from the Gagnes. So WWE doesn't own it outright, because ESPN Classic can show it forever along with some of the USWA and GWF and UWF. ESPN has re-broadcast rights. They don't have any control over WWE's use of the AWA library. If WWE were to decide that one of the next few things to be added to the Network will be full episodes of ESPN's "AWA Championship Wrestling", ESPN can't stop WWE from doing that. |
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