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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Oct 26, 2014 22:15:35 GMT -5
I am glad they got Bray into complete relevance again
Though my problem is two things. One, he's still shaking off the Cena stink, despite the promos and the time off, it doesn't take away from the fact Cena destroyed him completely in their feud, and two... I don't see Bray winning the feud. If anything, I see Bray winning one match in it, and that's if the feud continues to the end of the year.
It feels like it's for Ambrose more than Wyatt, which is a shame, because I want to see both guys succeed, but it's gonna be hard to recover from what Cena did to him...
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Post by Old Jack Burton on Oct 26, 2014 22:15:54 GMT -5
The heel did not have to win here. Dean should have went over, and then they could move on to the next thing with Dean looking strong. Instead he now goes on with no wins at all over Seth. If he doesn't simply annihilate Bray in the coming months he is going to be done. So Dean got attacked by 5 people and then lost...I don´t see how this is bad at all. Losses do not mean anything IF done right and this loss does not matter at all. You watch HHH or Stephanie will bury the f*** out of Dean on RAW at some point over the next couple of months and this will be one of the main things they bring up . Is it a good way to build heel heat? WWE seems to think so, I disagree.
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Post by mysterydriver on Oct 26, 2014 22:16:21 GMT -5
So, HIAC recap
Cesaro Swept by Ziggler. Usos Lose, Probably Rematch on Raw. Bella on Bella violence. Cena Wins LOL. Sheamus "Weekend at Bernies" Miz. Big Show's fails America. Avoids crying. Paige immediately suffers from the "No Total Divas champs" rule. Ambrose gets Cena's Sloppy Feud Seconds with the task of "rebuilding" the aura of Wyatt while somehow forgetting about his now, obviously unfinished business with Seth Rollins.
Edit: Cool HIAC match before the ending, though.
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Post by MGH on Oct 26, 2014 22:16:30 GMT -5
Things like this are why I stopped watching all together two months ago.
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Post by MAGGLE on Oct 26, 2014 22:16:44 GMT -5
The real reason why I am dissapointed at this forum is because I know that even if Seth Rollins would have beaten Dean Ambrose clean the same guys would still complain. And this is not an opinion of mine, I have seen pretty much every possible scenario on this forum and the same people have always complained about it. The same goes for Dean beating Rollins clean, people would say that Seth got buried.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Oct 26, 2014 22:16:55 GMT -5
You can't fault people for being upset and tell them to "Get Over Themselves" for an opinion. You have your own opinion, they have theirs. I believe it could have been done much better. So do others. Sorry if we wanted something different. If you found it fine, cool, but others who didn't have a legit complaint, and don't need to "Get over themselves". but I really don't see anything to be too upset about. Sure this can be considered ignorance at his finest, but this just screams of IWC hating because that's what we like to do. WWE finally puts effort into storytelling and it gets crapped on. Sometimes its best to concede your personal preferences and acknowledge a decent effort They put effort into storyline by a guy having no interaction and no build with either man in the match, interfering in arguably the best Feud WWE has had in years and mucking up the finish?
Look dude, I get you liked it, I liked the show overall too, but it's not blind hate.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2014 22:17:01 GMT -5
You can't fault people for being upset and tell them to "Get Over Themselves" for an opinion. You have your own opinion, they have theirs. I believe it could have been done much better. So do others. Sorry if we wanted something different. If you found it fine, cool, but others who didn't have a legit complaint, and don't need to "Get over themselves". but I really don't see anything to be too upset about. Sure this can be considered ignorance at his finest, but this just screams of IWC hating because that's what we like to do. WWE finally puts effort into storytelling and it gets crapped on. Sometimes its best to concede your personal preferences and acknowledge a decent effort I don't see why. If you're not enjoying something, you should be able to vocalize it instead of saying, "Oh well, at least they're trying." No other TV show seems to deserve a pat on the back just for putting in some effort even though it's something that actively pisses its fanbase off.
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Post by Slammy Award-Winning Cannibal on Oct 26, 2014 22:17:09 GMT -5
I enjoyed Cesaro/Ziggler, Usos/Dusts & Mizdow. Other than that...nah. I'm just not into these PG Hell in a Cell matches. I've only really enjoyed Taker vs. HHH from Mania in recent years. Loved that one. Aside from the controversial finish to ambrose and rollins, what the heck was so PG and terrible about their match? weapons everywhere, ambrose cursing in the ring... My only complaint is that it needed blood. Fake blood, real blood, whatever. Hell in a Cell, weapons, brutality. Blood. Would've been nice.
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Post by The Tee Why on Oct 26, 2014 22:17:21 GMT -5
I am glad they got Bray into complete relevance again Though my problem is two things. One, he's still shaking off the Cena stink, despite the promos and the time off, it doesn't take away from the fact Cena destroyed him completely in their feud, and two... I don't see Bray winning the feud. If anything, I see Bray winning one match in it, and that's if the feud continues to the end of the year. It feels like it's for Ambrose more than Wyatt, which is a shame, because I want to see both guys succeed, but it's gonna be hard to recover from what Cena did to him... Yeah I mean people go "think of the promos!" But in all honesty, yeah someone has to win and someone has to lose. Ambrose is on a freaking ROLL so having him lose would be really dumb, but having Bray lose after they seemingly try and make him a new undertaker-esque menace type character(when hes lost like every single feud hes had barring Kane) is stupid too... Can we just have both guys succeed ?
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Post by Adam Black on Oct 26, 2014 22:17:23 GMT -5
all this whining I did expect some negativity but holy crap you guys deserve all those shitty Raw episodes.
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Post by Paco on Oct 26, 2014 22:17:28 GMT -5
My only problem with the finish is I would have let Ambrose get a more definitive ass kicking on Seth Rollins. Just because this is the blowoff match doesn't mean the match automatically has to have a finite ending, but I would at least let Ambrose get his cathartic revenge experience out of Seth. There's comparisons to Taker/Michaels but before Kane showed up there was no doubt that Michaels was a dead man without him. He looked like a corpse by the end of it. THIS. Very well put.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2014 22:17:38 GMT -5
The real reason why I am dissapointed at this forum is because I know that even if Seth Rollins would have beaten Dean Ambrose clean the same guys would still complain. And this is not an opinion of mine, I have seen pretty much every possible scenario on this forum and the same people have always complained about it. Well, yeah, hook or crook Rollins winning was completely moronic.
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Post by BRV on Oct 26, 2014 22:18:05 GMT -5
You watch HHH or Stephanie will bury the f*** out of Dean on RAW at some point over the next couple of months and this will be one of the main things they bring up . Is it a good way to build heel heat? WWE seems to think so, I disagree. That's almost exactly how The Authority treated Daniel Bryan from SummerSlam until WrestleMania XXX, and up until his neck injury forced him to surrender the championship, it was working out pretty well for Bryan.
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Post by Old Jack Burton on Oct 26, 2014 22:18:56 GMT -5
The real reason why I am dissapointed at this forum is because I know that even if Seth Rollins would have beaten Dean Ambrose clean the same guys would still complain. And this is not an opinion of mine, I have seen pretty much every possible scenario on this forum and the same people have always complained about it. If Seth had beaten Dean clean that would have been a better story than what we got. I would have accepted it with a "wait and see" mentality because it offers sharp opportunities for storytelling. What we got does not.
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Post by The Tee Why on Oct 26, 2014 22:19:06 GMT -5
Aside from the controversial finish to ambrose and rollins, what the heck was so PG and terrible about their match? weapons everywhere, ambrose cursing in the ring... My only complaint is that it needed blood. Fake blood, real blood, whatever. Hell in a Cell, weapons, brutality. Blood. Would've been nice. Yeah in some occasions they really should loosen the leash a little bit. This is one of the first (no pun intended but whatever) "BLOOD" feuds in a while that you could really buy into.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Oct 26, 2014 22:19:17 GMT -5
I don't how to say this guys. Please don't think of me as a dick, I'm kinda bad with words. Here it goes. Get over yourselves. This was a solid show with all matches ranging from watchable to excellent. The Bray ending was brilliant. Gets him back over and credible again, and he has been slightly repackaged as a solo menace with new creepy vibes besides the old "follow the buzzards schtick" Orton/Cena was actually a decent match, but oh wait its Cena vs Orton so lets not give it any attention. The product has been dreadfully boring since Summerslam, but this was a solid effort that didn't seem half assed or on auto pilot. MOTY candidate in Ambrose/Rollins. I'm sure they will pick up the feud again after Wyatt feud ends. But I am stoked for Wyatt/Ambrose Allow me to retort by saying, that I disagree with pretty much every point you make here. That doesn't mean I need to 'get over myself'; it just means I have a different outlook than you on the thing. That's the thing with this entire section much of the time--people think their opinion somehow makes other people wrong, and then the misplaced condescension silliness begins. If there's one thing posters need to 'get over', it's that. The thing is the WWE section since September has been a gigantic cesspool of negativity and it seems like no matter what WWE does now, people FIND a way to complain about it. I agree that Raw hasn't been that great, but it's starting to look like no one's ever gonna be happy here and it's starting to get old. I think a better phrase instead of "get over yourselves" would be "stop taking wrestling so seriously." People are so concerned about 3 years into the future that something that could be enjoyed just by thinking of today gets thrown out the window as shit because it's stupid for the future. I try to stay as casual of a fan as I possibly can and that leads to enjoying certain things more than others would. I think if others adopted that perspective, they'd enjoy this stuff more too. But I doubt that'll ever change and we'll keep seeing the "I'm never watching again" crowd who keep watching on a regular basis never actually stopping watching.
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Post by fw91 on Oct 26, 2014 22:20:13 GMT -5
but I really don't see anything to be too upset about. Sure this can be considered ignorance at his finest, but this just screams of IWC hating because that's what we like to do. WWE finally puts effort into storytelling and it gets crapped on. Sometimes its best to concede your personal preferences and acknowledge a decent effort I don't see why. If you're not enjoying something, you should be able to vocalize it instead of saying, "Oh well, at least they're trying." No other TV show seems to deserve a pat on the back just for putting in some effort even though it's something that actively pisses its fanbase off. But did it really? or just a handful of people. I mean of course there will always be dissenting opinions, but I don't consider this a big booking blunder the likes of Batista winning the rumble.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Oct 26, 2014 22:20:21 GMT -5
but I really don't see anything to be too upset about. Sure this can be considered ignorance at his finest, but this just screams of IWC hating because that's what we like to do. WWE finally puts effort into storytelling and it gets crapped on. Sometimes its best to concede your personal preferences and acknowledge a decent effort I don't see why. If you're not enjoying something, you should be able to vocalize it instead of saying, "Oh well, at least they're trying." No other TV show seems to deserve a pat on the back just for putting in some effort even though it's something that actively pisses its fanbase off. Because I'd rather see the people who hate everything just flat out leave instead of threatening to stop watching every 3 days and not doing so, thereby clouding up the whole forum with negativity
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Oct 26, 2014 22:20:34 GMT -5
all this whining I did expect some negativity but holy crap you guys deserve all those shitty Raw episodes. Sheesh it's an opinion, don't wish those shitty RAW's on us for that...
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Post by FAR5222 on Oct 26, 2014 22:20:38 GMT -5
The real reason why I am dissapointed at this forum is because I know that even if Seth Rollins would have beaten Dean Ambrose clean the same guys would still complain. And this is not an opinion of mine, I have seen pretty much every possible scenario on this forum and the same people have always complained about it. The same goes for Dean beating Rollins clean, people would say that Seth got buried. It isn't fair that Reigns beat Rollins clean before he got injured.
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