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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Oct 12, 2014 18:50:01 GMT -5
These were some of the years WCW really flourished and the NWO was at its peak. So out of those years I am curious who people thought was the single most misued talent and why. Remember try to pick just one and explain why as most of us know WCW had a ton of misused talent at the time so listing a bunch of names isn't that fun.
As for me. I'm thinking it might have been Eddie Guerrero. He always made chicken salad out the chicken shit he was given. Also, while he had some oppurtunities to shine on the mic (particularly his LWO stuff was funny) it really showed how bad WCW was at promoting him when he went to WWE and all of his strengths were really utilized.
Also, maybe Alex Wright. Wright got such a bad deal from the American wrestling industry I feel. WCW used him great when they built him up as a cruiserweight and TV champion then...nothing. Then we got Berlyn which was almost worst than nothing. Wright still could have made it work I think but WCW was such a mess at that time there was just no chance of that happening. WWE really missed the boat on never signing him. If the German accent was all they felt was wrong about him they could have done what they are doing with Rusev now and stuck him with a mouth piece. I guess he also didn't have the look WWE really goes for, but neither did Jericho, Guerrero, etc.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Oct 12, 2014 18:53:35 GMT -5
I wholeheartedly agree about Alex Wright. That guy could have been huge. He was young, charismatic, technically sound, and could move amazingly for a guy at his height.
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Post by JTG Fan on Oct 12, 2014 19:00:09 GMT -5
Thirded on Alex Wright.
Outside of the obvious ones (Jericho, Benoit, Guerrero, Mysterio, Booker T), Wrath comes to mind. I also think while he got a nice little push that Saturn could have gone even further if allowed.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2014 19:07:52 GMT -5
Fourthed on Alex Wright. I thought he was great. I was really excited for the Berlyn character that went nowhere due to network standards and practices.
Bret Hart is the obvious choice here. Probably the most woefully misused piece of talent in the history of either company.
I don't think Jericho, Benoit, Booker T or Guerrero were particularly misused. In fact, I think they were used pretty well. The problem for them was that it was taking more time for them to break through than they thought it should have, so they left.
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Post by Evilution E5150 on Oct 12, 2014 19:12:57 GMT -5
Lanny Poffo
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Post by kingoftheindies on Oct 12, 2014 19:46:22 GMT -5
Fourthed on Alex Wright. I thought he was great. I was really excited for the Berlyn character that went nowhere due to network standards and practices. Bret Hart is the obvious choice here. Probably the most woefully misused piece of talent in the history of either company. I don't think Jericho, Benoit, Booker T or Guerrero were particularly misused. In fact, I think they were used pretty well. The problem for them was that it was taking more time for them to break through than they thought it should have, so they left. I will say this in defense of Bret. The more I hear the more I have to say that the struggles were more on Bret than creative |
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Post by JTG Fan on Oct 12, 2014 19:51:03 GMT -5
I think the issues with Bret are clearly more on WCW than Bret. Obviously Bret wasn't the same on an emotional level and that effected his performance, but that doesn't excuse WCW turning him heel a few months into his run for no reason, shunting him down the card, and having him battle for the WCW Television Title.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2014 20:05:37 GMT -5
The thread title says "misused," not "unused..."  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2014 20:41:05 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't mind believing that Bret contributed some to the issue, but the numerous face/heel/face/heel flipflops pretty much killed him. Really, Bret just showed up at the wrong time when creative was in a constant transitional phase.
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Post by eDemento2099 on Oct 12, 2014 23:37:55 GMT -5
The most obvious answer is Bret Hart.
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Post by Dave the Dave on Oct 13, 2014 0:53:39 GMT -5
Kidman did fine for himself...but I think the Flock as a unit could have been bigger.
Raven said it himself, "WE were the most over group ever who lost everytime out"
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Post by Tony Schiavontay on Oct 13, 2014 0:56:38 GMT -5
The thread title says "misused," not "unused..." Yeah, I'd say he was a guy that WCW used 100% correctly, they should have just not been paying him for it. |
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Oct 13, 2014 0:56:46 GMT -5
DavetheDave's sig and avatar bring La Parka to mind.
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Post by mysterious on Oct 13, 2014 1:04:49 GMT -5
Jericho anyone. I agree with how they turned him heel. His program with Goldberg was great but they could have made him into a great heel, but during that period too many stars on the roster.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2014 11:11:28 GMT -5
Jericho anyone. I agree with how they turned him heel. His program with Goldberg was great but they could have made him into a great heel, but during that period too many stars on the roster. He WAS a great heel. In fact, I enjoyed his work in WCW much more than anything he did in WWE. But, to me Jericho was never the marquee name that he felt he was, and which many fans felt he was. He was an entertaining upper midcard heel on the level of Curt Hennig and Scott Hall. I understand why Jericho left, but it was only a short matter of time before the "glass ceiling" shattered. |
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Oct 13, 2014 11:23:32 GMT -5
I think the issues with Bret are clearly more on WCW than Bret. Obviously Bret wasn't the same on an emotional level and that effected his performance, but that doesn't excuse WCW turning him heel a few months into his run for no reason, shunting him down the card, and having him battle for the WCW Television Title. It was the US title but that part wasn't the issue as he did feud with DDP and Sting over it. The issue with Bret is the lets keep turning him every month. Let keep him out of the biggest money match in history against Hogan by having him be on Hogan side and turn around as talk trash to only repeat it over and over. |
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Post by Viking Hall on Oct 13, 2014 11:45:26 GMT -5
Curt Hennig springs to mind. I wasn't an avid WCW follower but reading his bio of his time in WCW it's quite clear that they didn't really know what to do with him. Here's a man that had all the skills to be a stand out singles star, not to mention being a well known face and second generation wrestler and yet he was bumped from stable to stable, turned backwards and forwards and was even given a 'Texas Redneck' gimmick despite being nothing of the sort. But that's perhaps a criticism of WCW in general rather than their use of Hennig.
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Post by tms on Oct 13, 2014 12:07:33 GMT -5
I always thought of Alex Wright as a Booker T/Jericho hybrid with more athleticism than either. Incredible talent, to the point that when people bring up how "Triple H once lost to Alex Wright in WCW" they're ignorant as to how damn gifted he was.
Gotta give Mortis/Kanyon some love. No reason he shouldn't have been a main eventer.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2014 12:07:51 GMT -5
Curt Hennig springs to mind. I wasn't an avid WCW follower but reading his bio of his time in WCW it's quite clear that they didn't really know what to do with him. Here's a man that had all the skills to be a stand out singles star, not to mention being a well known face and second generation wrestler and yet he was bumped from stable to stable, turned backwards and forwards and was even given a 'Texas Redneck' gimmick despite being nothing of the sort. But that's perhaps a criticism of WCW in general rather than their use of Hennig. I think they said in WWE's Mr. Perfect documentary that Curt wasn't really concerned with being main event or anything like that in WCW. He saw WCW more as an opportunity to make some money in the waning years of his career while putting over younger stars and more or less enjoying the ride. Granted, creative made some terrible choices with Curt, namely the Horseman debacle. However, I thought the West Texas Rednecks stable was pretty great. |
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Oct 13, 2014 12:19:25 GMT -5
I think the issues with Bret are clearly more on WCW than Bret. Obviously Bret wasn't the same on an emotional level and that effected his performance, but that doesn't excuse WCW turning him heel a few months into his run for no reason, shunting him down the card, and having him battle for the WCW Television Title. Absolutely. Not only that, but the way they handled his debut was idiotic. They let the heat from Survivor Series cool off for a month before bringing him on TV, riding on the back of a car with Hogan. It was just a disaster. They should have gotten Bret on TV within a week, and given him a live mic and said "go". For a guy who loved competing with Vince, Bischoff dropped the ball on his hottest acquisition of the Monday Night Wars. |
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