King Devitt
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Post by King Devitt on Oct 29, 2014 23:45:58 GMT -5
He has charisma and the look. Whether that means he can be The Guy or not with the proper booking/backing, we'll see. What qualified Daniel Bryan? I think the Yes! chant had more to do with it than "great worker" as far as him getting over as much as he did ... and booking played a huge role in it too (garnering sympathy by belittling him and holding him back). But he's nothing special on the mic and while charisma is one of those things people can disagree about, to me at least Reigns has more "it factor" than Bryan did. Reigns has swag and the fans eat it up. Bryan has the fans' respect. Different kinds of "it". While I don't see one over the other, I'd rather have respect than swag.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2014 0:48:51 GMT -5
He's got the look they like, passable charisma, and presence, but that's it. He's a solid main eventer, but not a face of the company.
Dude is 110% the second coming of Diesel.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Oct 30, 2014 0:51:12 GMT -5
He has charisma and the look. Whether that means he can be The Guy or not with the proper booking/backing, we'll see. What qualified Daniel Bryan? I think the Yes! chant had more to do with it than "great worker" as far as him getting over as much as he did ... and booking played a huge role in it too (garnering sympathy by belittling him and holding him back). But he's nothing special on the mic and while charisma is one of those things people can disagree about, to me at least Reigns has more "it factor" than Bryan did. Bryan has "the look"; the narrative just says that he doesn't.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2014 0:53:10 GMT -5
He has charisma and the look. Whether that means he can be The Guy or not with the proper booking/backing, we'll see. What qualified Daniel Bryan? I think the Yes! chant had more to do with it than "great worker" as far as him getting over as much as he did ... and booking played a huge role in it too (garnering sympathy by belittling him and holding him back). But he's nothing special on the mic and while charisma is one of those things people can disagree about, to me at least Reigns has more "it factor" than Bryan did. Bryan has "the look"; the narrative just says that he doesn't. Eh, not really. They probably want somebody who looks like a larger than life superhero - because they still haven't grasped that that isn't the sort of person society's really flocking to anymore for the most part - and Bryan really can't pull that off (though someone like him does fit better with modern sensibilities, just as said they haven't grasped that). Reigns... He looks like Shang Tsung which still doesn't exactly scream ideal face of the company to me but it's more along the line of what they want than Bryan is.
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Post by misfitblonde on Oct 30, 2014 1:40:26 GMT -5
Roman Reigns fits the jacket.
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Post by Beebs is the Final Girl on Oct 30, 2014 2:08:52 GMT -5
Have you seen his face?
He has 'it'. I see him as a Diesel/Rock type.
But I'm as biased as David Crockett.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Oct 30, 2014 5:00:18 GMT -5
Everybody in America wants to sleep with the Beatles. I mean, Roman Reigns.
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Post by Wolfman Rose on Oct 30, 2014 5:50:43 GMT -5
Bryan has "the look"; the narrative just says that he doesn't. Eh, not really. They probably want somebody who looks like a larger than life superhero - because they still haven't grasped that that isn't the sort of person society's really flocking to anymore for the most part - and Bryan really can't pull that off (though someone like him does fit better with modern sensibilities, just as said they haven't grasped that). Reigns... He looks like Shang Tsung which still doesn't exactly scream ideal face of the company to me but it's more along the line of what they want than Bryan is. Gonna have to disagree there. Superhero movies (particularly Marvel ones where the heroes are larger than life) are immensely popular. Reigns, who like Batista would probably find himself at home in a role in one of them, has *that* look, and lets not pretend here; they guy is f***ing over. People love him. That is rule #1 for being FotC. Yeah, he might need to expand his moveset a little more, but then Lesnar just suplexes, powerbombs, and F5s (with the occasional kimura). Not everyone needs to have 500 moves. Reigns adds in a couple more power moves, he's got what he needs.
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Post by saintpat on Oct 30, 2014 10:39:52 GMT -5
He has charisma and the look. Whether that means he can be The Guy or not with the proper booking/backing, we'll see. What qualified Daniel Bryan? I think the Yes! chant had more to do with it than "great worker" as far as him getting over as much as he did ... and booking played a huge role in it too (garnering sympathy by belittling him and holding him back). But he's nothing special on the mic and while charisma is one of those things people can disagree about, to me at least Reigns has more "it factor" than Bryan did. Bryan has "the look"; the narrative just says that he doesn't. The narrative doesn't say that: history says that. When has anyone before Bryan with his stature and scruffy hippy look ever previously been "The Guy"? I guess it's only the narrative that says the Blue Meanie and Hornswoggle don't have the look, also, by your figuring? It doesn't mean Bryan couldn't ascend to the spot he did, it just means he overcame his look to do so. Just as Bret Hart overcame his very average mic skills to be the guy for a period of time.
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Post by TGM on Oct 30, 2014 11:10:14 GMT -5
He's cool and popular and can wrestle.
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Post by ASYLUMHAUSEN on Oct 30, 2014 11:20:23 GMT -5
Without reading the whole thread, here is exactly what came to mind when I saw the thread title;
What exactly qualifies a guy to be "ready." Not in the Orange Goblin "He's not ready, brother" sense...but in the sense that I see it over and over and over and over and over on these boards that "He isn't ready...." to be The Guy, or The Next Guy in regards to Reigns. And Ambrose. And Rollins.
From what I gather, if this board is to be believed, the only guys who are ready right now are Orton...Cena...Lesnar...Bryan (when healthy)....and that's about it.
I get that the mid-card is a wreck of interchangable parts right now so that's in need of work but what am I missing here? What does it mythically mean to "be ready."
Reigns; over with the crowd, good look, needs a mouthpiece (ala Heyman) to mask his biggest glaring weakness, by no means a 5 star worker so yeah he needs to keep working to improve there..but he has some high spots that pop the crowd so that has to count for something.
Ambrose; Other than some of the obvious "Cena-Lite" humor of recent weeks, everything about the dude is pure gold right now. What is he missing that means he's Not Ready??
Rollins; has been a fairly constistent great worker in my opinion...still a little 'meh' on the mic, but that might be a by-product of the scripted promos. What is it he is missing? he's over and can go...that counts for something....
I'd really love to know exactly what it means to "Be Ready"...because, I'm obviously missing something apparently.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2014 11:23:54 GMT -5
Because his hair is luxurious and is sprinkled with the hopes and dreams of the masses.
I can't believe this has to be said.
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Post by gnr123 on Oct 30, 2014 12:23:49 GMT -5
Eh, not really. They probably want somebody who looks like a larger than life superhero - because they still haven't grasped that that isn't the sort of person society's really flocking to anymore for the most part - and Bryan really can't pull that off (though someone like him does fit better with modern sensibilities, just as said they haven't grasped that). Reigns... He looks like Shang Tsung which still doesn't exactly scream ideal face of the company to me but it's more along the line of what they want than Bryan is. Gonna have to disagree there. Superhero movies (particularly Marvel ones where the heroes are larger than life) are immensely popular. Reigns, who like Batista would probably find himself at home in a role in one of them, has *that* look, and lets not pretend here; they guy is f***ing over. People love him. That is rule #1 for being FotC. Yeah, he might need to expand his moveset a little more, but then Lesnar just suplexes, powerbombs, and F5s (with the occasional kimura). Not everyone needs to have 500 moves. Reigns adds in a couple more power moves, he's got what he needs. Moves don't make much of a difference. The Uso's mostly just use punches and kicks, and it keeps them over. The thing with Reigns is he needs to work on his selling, facial expressions, and mic work. I still can't get over when Reigns got hit in the back with the chair from Rollins, and didn't change his facial expression at all. That's not the making of a top guy. Not to mention he's still can't talk on the mic without sounding like he's obviously reading a script. I like Reigns, I think he has potential. I just don't think he has potential to be the top guy ala John Cena. He's got the look, presence, and he's over. But, in order to be a mainstay main eventer, he has to work on everything else.
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Post by Toxik916 on Oct 30, 2014 16:35:54 GMT -5
He has that aura about him that screams big deal. He's similar to Sid. Not the best worker or promo but he has a weird presence and connection with the crowd.
Face of the company probably not, but next big name like Warrior, Batista, or Diesel hell yes he can be that!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2014 17:08:16 GMT -5
He just has that appeal to him. Call it the "IT" factor or whatever, but people gravitate towards him. Whether he'll be THE face of the company or not, I don't know but let's be honest here... The man is pure sex. It doesn't matter what your orientation is, everyone wants to be bonin' Roman. There's going to be an alien invasion in a few years(I have my sources) and they'll try to enslave humanity. What do you think their reaction to seeing Reigns is going to be? Those aliens are going to be like "My word... I gotta get me some of that." And Roman will have sex with the alien army and save the world. While he'll no doubt fall to the numerous alien diseases he will contract, we will remember his sacrifice by howling at the moon and eating pancakes on Global Roman Reigns Day.
Believe that.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Oct 31, 2014 8:47:49 GMT -5
Two things matter if you're a wrestler. - Being safe in the ring - Being over enough for your spot
In that order. As far as I'm aware Reigns hasn't injured anyone, or at least not through SEAN CARLESSNESS, and he's pretty over most of the time. The most over guy on the roster, meaning he should be 'the guy'? I don't think so. But then WWE has pushed less over guys before.
No other qualifications really matter if the fans go wild for you and you're not killing anyone.
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Post by Gravedigger's Biscuits on Oct 31, 2014 8:51:56 GMT -5
He just has that appeal to him. Call it the "IT" factor or whatever, but people gravitate towards him. Whether he'll be THE face of the company or not, I don't know but let's be honest here... The man is pure sex. It doesn't matter what your orientation is, everyone wants to be bonin' Roman. There's going to be an alien invasion in a few years(I have my sources) and they'll try to enslave humanity. What do you think their reaction to seeing Reigns is going to be? Those aliens are going to be like "My word... I gotta get me some of that." And Roman will have sex with the alien army and save the world. While he'll no doubt fall to the numerous alien diseases he will contract, we will remember his sacrifice by howling at the moon and eating pancakes on Global Roman Reigns Day. Believe that. Nah, his mouth is weird and annoying.
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Post by Hit Girl on Oct 31, 2014 8:58:08 GMT -5
Because he's known as the Juggernaut. Didn't you know? People have been calling him that since he debuted, brotha
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Post by SenorCrest on Oct 31, 2014 19:15:22 GMT -5
Hes a cool guy. I mean he is a jock. believe dat
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Post by barelybeastmode on Oct 31, 2014 19:41:42 GMT -5
Bryan has "the look"; the narrative just says that he doesn't. Eh, not really. They probably want somebody who looks like a larger than life superhero - because they still haven't grasped that that isn't the sort of person society's really flocking to anymore for the most part - and Bryan really can't pull that off (though someone like him does fit better with modern sensibilities, just as said they haven't grasped that). Reigns... He looks like Shang Tsung which still doesn't exactly scream ideal face of the company to me but it's more along the line of what they want than Bryan is. Ha! Really? Although I don't agree, if we're talking the 90's Mortal Kombat film, I thought Shang Tsung was fine as hell. Not as attractive as Liu Kang mind you, but still good looking. He's aged well too *nods*
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