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Post by Gerard Gerard on Oct 31, 2014 15:32:32 GMT -5
Oh, another one, blowing off the relatively hot Kidman/London feud on Velocity in 2004, having developed it on Smackdown! and PPV 'til that point. It actually transcended the 'them cruisers' pigeon hole. For context, 2004 was the year in which Smackdown! became the overt 'B' show, with the expedited JBL ascension to compensate for the lack of roster depth present. It was a show that really could've done with something going on in the undercard.
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Post by Hit Girl on Oct 31, 2014 16:26:45 GMT -5
Vince McMahon being a Royal Rumble winner and former WWE Champion
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Post by Woo on Oct 31, 2014 16:35:33 GMT -5
Oh, another one, blowing off the relatively hot Kidman/London feud on Velocity in 2004, having developed it on Smackdown! and PPV 'til that point. It actually transcended the 'them cruisers' pigeon hole. For context, 2004 was the year in which Smackdown! became the overt 'B' show, with the expedited JBL ascension to compensate for the lack of roster depth present. It was a show that really could've done with something going on in the undercard. That made me and my friend so angry. Kidman was doing great in that role and he had Chavo and London gunning for him and was set to win the Cruiseweight championship Armageddon. Then Funaki won the belt instead in that match and ruined it. Getting back to Hurricane and Rosey's break up.Why would you not turn Hurricane in a super villain?
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Post by Dub H on Oct 31, 2014 16:51:30 GMT -5
Ending Edge's Wrestlemania streak at WM23. He was like 5-0 at that point and people were starting to notice. I remember thinking that if they started mentioning it on commentary, it could be established very quickly. They could then build to a streak vs streak match between Edge and Taker in a few years. Instead Edge was thrown into the MITB match (which already had something like 28 other guys in it) and didn't win, thus ending his streak. And in the end he got the briefcase anyway and then still went on to face Taker at WM24, making Edge's streak ending a total and complete waste. Wow,that is actually a great point
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Post by fw91 on Oct 31, 2014 16:57:06 GMT -5
Ending Edge's Wrestlemania streak at WM23. He was like 5-0 at that point and people were starting to notice. I remember thinking that if they started mentioning it on commentary, it could be established very quickly. They could then build to a streak vs streak match between Edge and Taker in a few years. Instead Edge was thrown into the MITB match (which already had something like 28 other guys in it) and didn't win, thus ending his streak. And in the end he got the briefcase anyway and then still went on to face Taker at WM24, making Edge's streak ending a total and complete waste. Wow,that is actually a great point should of done Edge vs Orton at mania 23. Would the make a decent show a lot more memorable.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Oct 31, 2014 17:07:42 GMT -5
Having Edge & Christian reunite in early 2011, including several tag matches, and never having them come out together to their tag theme. Still irritates me.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Oct 31, 2014 17:15:23 GMT -5
Ending Edge's Wrestlemania streak at WM23. He was like 5-0 at that point and people were starting to notice. I remember thinking that if they started mentioning it on commentary, it could be established very quickly. They could then build to a streak vs streak match between Edge and Taker in a few years. Instead Edge was thrown into the MITB match (which already had something like 28 other guys in it) and didn't win, thus ending his streak. And in the end he got the briefcase anyway and then still went on to face Taker at WM24, making Edge's streak ending a total and complete waste. In fairness, isn't the only reason he ended up with the briefcase was that Mr. Kennedy was suspended for failing wellness? Injury. He was expected to be out over a year. Also on the note of Mania streaks Cena got up to 4 before they had him lose to Orton and Triple H.
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Post by Gerard Gerard on Oct 31, 2014 17:28:06 GMT -5
Injury. He was expected to be out over a year. Was he ever suspended because of wellness or did I just slander the man? He was, Autumn 2007, right after publicly speaking out in defense of WWE's Wellness policy. 2007 was a rollercoaster year for the once and former Mr. Kennedy. Start off as WHC contender, MitB holder and spending the other half injured or suspended.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Oct 31, 2014 17:32:59 GMT -5
Yeah, we got Vince's son Hornswoggle because Kennedy was wellnessed.
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Post by Aboutreika18 on Oct 31, 2014 17:41:05 GMT -5
Jericho not winning the Rumble in 2012.
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Post by Mid-Carder on Oct 31, 2014 17:44:55 GMT -5
Wow,that is actually a great point should of done Edge vs Orton at mania 23. Would the make a decent show a lot more memorable. I was adamant then, and still am, that it should have been Cena v Shawn v Edge v Orton, with Taker v Batista closing the show. It's one of the reasons I don't like 23. Edge and Orton deserved better than cursory slots in MITB.
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Post by mizerable on Oct 31, 2014 17:55:07 GMT -5
I have to echo that Edge and Orton didn't deserve to be in the "gotta give them something to do" match. Hell, 8 people in the match in my opinion is just too many. I usually don't like matches that have more than 6 wrestlers present.
Not only that, but I believe Edge was injured at the time. So either don't have him wrestle, or don't put him in a dangerous match like the MITB match. Jesus.
I would have been fine if the Ultimate Opportunist faced Orton and got a quick 2 minute win. I know heel vs. heel matches aren't big draws, but I'd say it would garner more interest than the f***in' ladder match.
Another thing that they decided to do was kill off Santino's 2nd IC title run amidst one of the most entertaining periods for his character. I'm not saying Santino needed to break HTM's record, but the Honk-a-meter gimmick could have gone on far longer than they allowed it to. Instead they give it to Regal who restores the IC title's status as being forgettable.
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Post by Nikki Heyman on Oct 31, 2014 18:00:25 GMT -5
Another thing that they decided to do was kill off Santino's 2nd IC title run amidst one of the most entertaining periods for his character. I'm not saying Santino needed to break HTM's record, but the Honk-a-meter gimmick could have gone on far longer than they allowed it to. Instead they give it to Regal who restores the IC title's status as being forgettable. I think they missed out on a golden opportunity with Glamarella in 2008 with the women's title and the IC title.......
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Oct 31, 2014 18:32:51 GMT -5
Does Kaval's whole WWE tenure count? He was screwed from the moment he won NXT. Barely managing to last five minutes with Big Show and then losing his spot on Team SmackDown to Tyler freakin' Reks immediately after didn't help matters either. I know people get on Low-Ki but damn, it just seem WWE didn't want him to win NXT2 in the first place. I don't think they wanted anyone to win. NXT 2 felt like it was more about giving the midcard Pros something to do than putting over the Rookies.
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Post by benstudd on Nov 2, 2014 3:11:04 GMT -5
Not a lot of people think about this but Big E's de-push. Just last year he was one of the Top guys on RAW, winning tons of matches against high level guys, defending his US title. Seems like a case of Vince being tired of that toy so threw it away.
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on Nov 2, 2014 3:27:01 GMT -5
In fairness, isn't the only reason he ended up with the briefcase was that Mr. Kennedy was suspended for failing wellness? Injury. He was expected to be out over a year. Then they found out after that that the injury wasn't as bad as they thought.
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Post by Prince Petty on Nov 2, 2014 8:18:53 GMT -5
Breaking Trish Stratus away from Christian just as they were starting to really do some great stuff as a (midcard) heel power couple. They were great fun together, and they had Tomko as the muscle. Sure, Christian got hurt, but I always thought they should have kept them together and built on the storyline to establish them as a serious group.
I also never understood why they turned Shawn Michaels face in 1995 (other than Vince being enamoured of him). He was such a massively obnoxious tool that he's really just about the most natural chickenshit heel character I can think of.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Nov 2, 2014 8:31:19 GMT -5
Breaking Trish Stratus away from Christian just as they were starting to really do some great stuff as a (midcard) heel power couple. They were great fun together, and they had Tomko as the muscle. Sure, Christian got hurt, but I always thought they should have kept them together and built on the storyline to establish them as a serious group. I also never understood why they turned Shawn Michaels face in 1995 (other than Vince being enamoured of him). He was such a massively obnoxious tool that he's really just about the most natural chickenshit heel character I can think of. I figure it's because Shawn was allergic to losing and he'd have to do that a lot less as a main event face than he would as a heel.
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Post by PrinceD on Nov 2, 2014 9:47:20 GMT -5
Giving away PPV matches on TV the week before the event. Reigns/Rollins was the most recent, but the most notable was Cena/HBK and this was the main event at Wrestle-freakin-Mania! Although it was a fantastic match.
Crappy merchandise. Some of these t-shirts are just plain awful. Who approves this crap?!
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Post by Abdullah on Nov 2, 2014 9:53:08 GMT -5
Turning AJ heel just for the finish of one PPV match.
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