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Post by Sumbody Gon' Get Dey Kneelift on Nov 4, 2014 3:03:27 GMT -5
There are certain moves in wrestling that aren't really finishers, so much as they are plot-devices. Moves so powerful that they are never kicked out of, or even take people out for months at a time. I want to go as far back as necessary here; let's make a master list. I'll add new ones as they come up.
THE LIST The Punt (Randy Orton) Con-Chair-To (Edge and Christian) 3D (the Dudley Boyz) Jackhammer (Goldberg) Doomsday Device (Road Warriors/Legion of Doom) Top-Rope Attitude Adjustment (John Cena) Banzai Drop (Yokozuna) Razor's Edge (Razor Ramon) Knee Plus (Daniel Bryan Cinderblock Curb Stomp (Seth Rollins) WMD (Big Show) Top Rope Attitude Adjustment (John Cena) Jumping Tombstone (Undertaker) Triple Powerbomb (The Shield)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2014 3:12:38 GMT -5
Nice list. I can't wait to kick out of them.
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Post by Saiyanic Panic on Nov 4, 2014 3:15:23 GMT -5
Grapevine Ankle/Angle Lock (Kurt Angle) Jackhammer (Goldberg) Doomsday Device (Road Warriors/Legion of Doom) Top-Rope Attitude Adjustment (John Cena) Banzai Drop (Yokozuna) Razor's Edge (Razor Ramon)
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 4, 2014 3:19:11 GMT -5
The Lion Tamer seems to be a more powerful Walls of Jericho, in a way, since he did it to Cena on the concrete after a DDT and such in what I guess was being presented as more brutal than normal, and whenever someone is in it, they seemingly are pretty f***ed, since I don't think they can really get to the ropes from it unless they were already able to reach.
The Van Terminator is of course one, presented as a bigger blow than the Van Daminator or 5 Star Frog Splash.
Big Show's knockout punch/WMD seems to be pretty much unkickout-able.
The Hell's Gate/Gogoplata/Gogodancer is another one, being presented as dangerous enough to need to be banned by the Board of Directors, who for some reason thought that was a big deal but didn't give a shit when JBL literally tried to murder John Cena.
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Post by Saiyanic Panic on Nov 4, 2014 3:27:29 GMT -5
Big Show's WMD has an exemplary track record, being kicked out of less often than the Dudleys' 3D.
Justin Gabriel's 450 splash was sold as a killer back in the day. If I recall right he's even beaten Cena cleanly with it.
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Post by BigJerichool222 on Nov 4, 2014 3:27:29 GMT -5
The Knee That Beat John Cena
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Post by ZombieElvis on Nov 4, 2014 4:03:07 GMT -5
Pedigree on a chair
Jake's DDT - Before WM 8 it was sold like death
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Nov 4, 2014 5:06:37 GMT -5
I would assume almost any finisher done off the top rope would qualify.
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Post by Topher is Human on Nov 4, 2014 5:57:20 GMT -5
Bryan's running knee has only ever been kicked out of once, and that was with a delay between hitting it, and someone else going for the pin.
But it has cleanly beaten Cena, Orton and HHH. Plus Batista tapped out very quickly to the Yes Lock right after the running Knee.
Curb Stomp to Cinder Blocks, it's only connected once but has been seen as a career threatening move at least 4 times.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2014 5:58:32 GMT -5
I would assume almost any finisher done off the top rope would qualify. With the exception of Savage's elbow, the only finisher so worthless he eventually decided to use it to heal his tag partner and it worked.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2014 5:59:34 GMT -5
Is this meant to be a collection of "Special Event" finishers like the Top Rope Attitude Adjustment, the Punk Kick and the ConChairto or just "Finishers" that almost always won their matches? There's a distinct line between them in my opinion. The "Special" ones would have to be not used in every match (ie: no 3D, no Jackhammer, no Jake DDT).
They aren't all WWE, but I'd put these ones on the "SuperMove" list: Top Rope Attitude Adjustment (or Top Rope/Avalanche versions of any finisher really) Randy Orton's Punt Kick The ConChairto (or any finisher done on a chair/foreign object really) The Van Terminator The Fireball The Poison Mist (before Muta/Tajiri started using it every match) The Piledriver (in WWE at the moment) The Burning Hammer (originally) Tiger Driver '91 The Ganso Bomb/Kawada Driver Toyota's Victory Star Drop The Poisoned Frankensteiner Brock Lesnar's Shooting Star Press Sami Zayn's Brainbustaaaah Bret Hart's turnbuckle figure four
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Post by Germansuplex on Nov 4, 2014 6:19:01 GMT -5
Moves so powerful that they are never kicked out of, or even take people out for months at a time. The Punt (Randy Orton)
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Post by rowdy426 on Nov 4, 2014 9:17:30 GMT -5
Moves so powerful that they are never kicked out of, or even take people out for months at a time. The Punt (Randy Orton) That picture could apply to a lot on this list, as at the very least, I know Cena kicked out of Punk's piledriver on that one RAW match.
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Post by keezy on Nov 4, 2014 9:24:19 GMT -5
Shield Powerbomb Batista Bomb into RKO Neckbreaker Mark Henry's Hall Of Pain (Chair wedged into leg, Vader bomb) Cena Top Rope AA Undertaker Jumping Tombstone The Masterlock
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Post by sonofblaine on Nov 4, 2014 11:05:25 GMT -5
Jericho's armbar.
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Post by Macho Pichu on Nov 4, 2014 11:50:31 GMT -5
Aside from Ambrose who actually made sense doing it, has anyone else actually kicked out of the Curbstomp? It's certainly presented as a devastating move.
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Post by Prince Petty on Nov 4, 2014 12:37:33 GMT -5
I want to add the Unprettier/Killswitch to that list. Yes, it's generally only been used on other midcarders, but I always recall it being sold like death, and can't remember anyone (except maybe Orton) kicking out of it.
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Post by Martin: #TeamBella Treasurer on Nov 4, 2014 12:44:04 GMT -5
Beth Phoenix's Glam Slam wasn't kicked out of often, if at all from what I can recall (maybe Mickie James). Also, its top rope variation...
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Post by Sumbody Gon' Get Dey Kneelift on Nov 4, 2014 13:36:48 GMT -5
Original post modified!
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Post by janverjon on Nov 4, 2014 13:43:53 GMT -5
Rusev's camel clutch
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