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Post by gnr123 on Nov 10, 2014 16:26:15 GMT -5
It completely astounds me why WWE continuously promotes and praises a company that never amounted to anything. First they have the ECW episode on the MNW, which they had NOTHNIG to do with the MNW. Now, a whole week devoted to ECW? Please WWE, stop reinforcing these has-beens' into thinking their still relevant. Case in point, Tazz's tweet. It's over, it's dead, stop f***ing talking about it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2014 16:29:16 GMT -5
It completely astounds me why WWE continuously promotes and praises a company that never amounted to anything. Nostalgia for the company led their two revival PPVs to sell very well, it had a ton of influence on the wrestling industry as a whole and the direction it went in as the 90s went on, quite a few big names from the 90s did tenures there in some cases that being how they got noticed, and to this day there's a rabid fanbase for it, plus for its humble beginnings it actually did get to levels like having PPV, national TV, and video games pretty damn quickly. It makes perfect sense to devote time to showcasing it. |
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Post by gnr123 on Nov 10, 2014 16:33:22 GMT -5
It completely astounds me why WWE continuously promotes and praises a company that never amounted to anything. Nostalgia for the company led their two revival PPVs to sell very well, it had a ton of influence on the wrestling industry as a whole and the direction it went in as the 90s went on, quite a few big names from the 90s did tenures there in some cases that being how they got noticed, and to this day there's a rabid fanbase for it, plus for its humble beginnings it actually did get to levels like having PPV, national TV, and video games pretty damn quickly. It makes perfect sense to devote time to showcasing it. I understand nostalgia and all that. But, it's been dead for 13 years now. The more they talk about it, and promote it as this "big thing that changed wrestling," than the has-beens will continue to have reunion shows and hog up the spotlight of other companies. |
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Post by "I'm Batman..." on Nov 10, 2014 22:29:51 GMT -5
Will they have TNA Exposed in 10 years?
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Post by gnr123 on Nov 10, 2014 22:50:05 GMT -5
Will they have TNA Exposed in 10 years? That's the thing people don't seem to consider. ECW was basically the TNA of the 90's. Terrible ratings, attendance, and wrestling. They storyline's were mediocre and their wrestlers were terrible. But, WWE promotes ECW as this big company, and everyone believe it because WWE's just promotes the postivie without showing the negative. Many of us know TNA is currently terrible, but if WWE promoted TNA as fantastic television in a decade, many people who aren't watching it now will believe it. |
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Post by Vampiro138 on Nov 10, 2014 22:54:29 GMT -5
Nostalgia for the company led their two revival PPVs to sell very well, it had a ton of influence on the wrestling industry as a whole and the direction it went in as the 90s went on, quite a few big names from the 90s did tenures there in some cases that being how they got noticed, and to this day there's a rabid fanbase for it, plus for its humble beginnings it actually did get to levels like having PPV, national TV, and video games pretty damn quickly. It makes perfect sense to devote time to showcasing it. I understand nostalgia and all that. But, it's been dead for 13 years now. The more they talk about it, and promote it as this "big thing that changed wrestling," than the has-beens will continue to have reunion shows and hog up the spotlight of other companies. so by that kinda logic... .....yeah dammit Paul, George, and Ringo the beatles died 25 years ago!! dont do the damn anthology reunion thing and release two new singles...  come on now!! the beatles have been dead for 44 years!! nobody wants to see a damn reunion...  |
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Post by gnr123 on Nov 10, 2014 22:59:06 GMT -5
I understand nostalgia and all that. But, it's been dead for 13 years now. The more they talk about it, and promote it as this "big thing that changed wrestling," than the has-beens will continue to have reunion shows and hog up the spotlight of other companies. so by that kinda logic... .....yeah dammit Paul, George, and Ringo the beatles died 25 years ago!! dont do the damn anthology reunion thing and release two new singles... come on now!! the beatles have been dead for 44 years!! nobody wants to see a damn reunion... Seriously, your comparing a low-tier trash wrestling company to THE BEATLES? |
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Post by Vampiro138 on Nov 10, 2014 23:08:37 GMT -5
so by that kinda logic... .....yeah dammit Paul, George, and Ringo the beatles died 25 years ago!! dont do the damn anthology reunion thing and release two new singles... come on now!! the beatles have been dead for 44 years!! nobody wants to see a damn reunion... Seriously, your comparing a low-tier trash wrestling company to THE BEATLES? im not comparing anything to anything, just saying using the logic of something thats been dead for a number of years shouldnt be brought out becuase its been dead for so long should thus apply to EVERYTHING then like dammit...Doctor Who died in 1989...why the hell did they drag that out and bring it back in 2005!! just more pointing out that the logic of "something died...never bring it back!!!" if applied to one thing then should be applied to everything...not comparing beatles to ecw...or doctor who to ecw...just more comparing the "it died, let it stay dead" outlook... |
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Post by Dave the Dave on Nov 10, 2014 23:32:46 GMT -5
I like ECW. I did before the WWE machine warped my fragile little mind.
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Post by Chainsaw on Nov 11, 2014 1:57:23 GMT -5
Well, this thread went to hell pretty quickly.
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Post by saintpat on Nov 11, 2014 10:58:55 GMT -5
It's a good step beyond "you get all the PPVs for 9.99 and you also get all the old PPVs" in letting people know about other programming on the Network.
I assume the critics realize many of those old PPVs are way older than ECW?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2014 14:13:52 GMT -5
I checked out Cyberslam 1996 to see what form it was in given I've seen 3 versions of the event, one somewhat-official, and two self cut by fans over the years.
It's entirely full with matches before the Pillman appearance, and all swearing is intact, so I'm assuming everything else in the show bar theme music (though Cyberslam didn't have many entrances on any release) is intact which is good.
Anyone else watched the other uploaded shows, they much the same?
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Post by Paco on Nov 13, 2014 20:32:44 GMT -5
Will they have TNA Exposed in 10 years? That's the thing people don't seem to consider. ECW was basically the TNA of the 90's. Terrible ratings, attendance, and wrestling. They storyline's were mediocre and their wrestlers were terrible. But, WWE promotes ECW as this big company, and everyone believe it because WWE's just promotes the postivie without showing the negative. Many of us know TNA is currently terrible, but if WWE promoted TNA as fantastic television in a decade, many people who aren't watching it now will believe it. BS. TNA has NEVER been as critically acclaimed as ECW was in its heyday (94-97). TNA has NEVER been trumped as revolutionary. Bash ECW all you want for its own flaws but the TNA comparison is pretty dumb. ECW did try to make it big with the TNN era and THEN you can bash their ratings, attendance & their in-ring product was past its prime but before that...they weren't about those things as they were pretty much an Indy promotion that got so much buzz and acclaim it basically became "the Big 3" with WWF and WCW. |
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Post by cjh on Nov 13, 2014 21:37:06 GMT -5
I checked out Cyberslam 1996 to see what form it was in given I've seen 3 versions of the event, one somewhat-official, and two self cut by fans over the years. It's entirely full with matches before the Pillman appearance, and all swearing is intact, so I'm assuming everything else in the show bar theme music (though Cyberslam didn't have many entrances on any release) is intact which is good. Anyone else watched the other uploaded shows, they much the same? November to Remember 1995 is missing Axl Rotten vs. JT Smith. ECW did not include it when they released the show, and that is the way the show is presented on the Network. Cyberslam is missing Mick Foley's in-ring promo before his match with Shane Douglas for the same reason. The promo was described in Foley's first book but was never released to the public until it was included on the "For All Mankind" set WWE released last year. |
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