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Post by Loser troll. Please ban me on Nov 8, 2014 11:33:11 GMT -5
Russev is, for whatever reason, Receiving the monster heel push Bray should of gotten, I digress.
His gimmick is too 1980's for me and his matches can be very meh
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Post by mcstoklasa on Nov 8, 2014 13:08:58 GMT -5
His offence looks great and the whole 'evil russian' thing is hilarious to me because it's 2014. I enjoy him.
Think of another big brutish hoss- Albert when he returned. I can't remember his name but he had a red diaper on and pretended to be Japanese. His offence just sucked, it lacked oomf and he was slow.
Rusev is a killer.
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Post by BigWill on Nov 8, 2014 13:23:05 GMT -5
Sure, it's over, but that doesn't mean I enjoy it, which is all that matters to me. We quibble over terms, but "I don't enjoy" is not the same as "terrible." If it was terrible, it wouldn't be over. Lots of things don't appeal to me, but that doesn't mean they are terrible, it means they don't appeal to me. You knew perfectly well what he meant with his post. Why are you wasting energy arguing about the way he phrased it?
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Post by Prince Petty on Nov 8, 2014 16:44:20 GMT -5
Russev is, for whatever reason, Receiving the monster heel push Bray should of gotten, I digress. His gimmick is too 1980's for me and his matches can be very meh Because he's a much better monster heel than Wyatt, he's much better than Wyatt in the ring, and he's surprisingly good at promos. Not only that, but he has Lana, who is great at drawing heat and a lot of fun to watch (not just from a prurient point of view). Rusev was pretty decent to begin with, but he's just got better and better, as this storyline has gone on. He and Lana have been given some awful stuff, but they've managed to make it all work. Even when they were feuding with the dreadful 'Alternating Between Goofy and Earnest' Big Show, they came out of it looking great. I wish they'd drop Putin from the gimmick, because he honestly isn't necessary at all. Hopefully that will happen soon, when Vince realises Ukraine is no longer in the news (perhaps by about 2019). Just make them arrogant foreigners who like to make fun of America, and beat Americans. You don't need to play up their own politics at all.
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Post by Loser troll. Please ban me on Nov 8, 2014 17:26:20 GMT -5
Russev is, for whatever reason, Receiving the monster heel push Bray should of gotten, I digress. His gimmick is too 1980's for me and his matches can be very meh Because he's a much better monster heel than Wyatt, he's much better than Wyatt in the ring, and he's surprisingly good at promos. Not only that, but he has Lana, who is great at drawing heat and a lot of fun to watch (not just from a prurient point of view). Rusev was pretty decent to begin with, but he's just got better and better, as this storyline has gone on. He and Lana have been given some awful stuff, but they've managed to make it all work. Even when they were feuding with the dreadful 'Alternating Between Goofy and Earnest' Big Show, they came out of it looking great. I wish they'd drop Putin from the gimmick, because he honestly isn't necessary at all. Hopefully that will happen soon, when Vince realises Ukraine is no longer in the news (perhaps by about 2019). Just make them arrogant foreigners who like to make fun of America, and beat Americans. You don't need to play up their own politics at all. I'm sure it comes as no surprise when I say Bray's promos knock Russevs all Russian ones out of the water. Better how? Both are big, Both are quick, Only one knows how to work a crowd the likes of which I have not seen since Jake The Snake and the other does a camel clutch/flag finish every match.
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Post by Prince Petty on Nov 8, 2014 20:23:22 GMT -5
Because he's a much better monster heel than Wyatt, he's much better than Wyatt in the ring, and he's surprisingly good at promos. Not only that, but he has Lana, who is great at drawing heat and a lot of fun to watch (not just from a prurient point of view). Rusev was pretty decent to begin with, but he's just got better and better, as this storyline has gone on. He and Lana have been given some awful stuff, but they've managed to make it all work. Even when they were feuding with the dreadful 'Alternating Between Goofy and Earnest' Big Show, they came out of it looking great. I wish they'd drop Putin from the gimmick, because he honestly isn't necessary at all. Hopefully that will happen soon, when Vince realises Ukraine is no longer in the news (perhaps by about 2019). Just make them arrogant foreigners who like to make fun of America, and beat Americans. You don't need to play up their own politics at all. I'm sure it comes as no surprise when I say Bray's promos knock Russevs all Russian ones out of the water. Better how? Both are big, Both are quick, Only one knows how to work a crowd the likes of which I have not seen since Jake The Snake and the other does a camel clutch/flag finish every match. Rusev puts more thought and ring psychology into his matches, looks more comfortable in the ring, has a great style that looks like it has huge impact, and he sells like a champ. Wyatt relies way too much on the 'oohooh, he's so creepy and borderline supernatural!' gimmick. Rusev is the opposite, he rises above the gimmick, consistently. Wyatt works a crowd better than anyone since Jake Roberts? Come off it, that is patently untrue. He has cool music and the fans enjoy getting involved with the phone lights. Then he starts to talk, and it's all the same meaningless drivel, every week. That promo on Smackdown was just complete rubbish. Good delivery, but he wasn't saying anything, and I don't think the crowd were really into it either. They must have been dozing, because his attempt to get a pop by name dropping Daniel Bryan was met with crickets. But this thread isn't a Rusev/Wyatt comparison, so I'll leave it there. If you want that discussion, it should probably be in a new thread.
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Post by saintpat on Nov 9, 2014 4:23:34 GMT -5
We quibble over terms, but "I don't enjoy" is not the same as "terrible." If it was terrible, it wouldn't be over. Lots of things don't appeal to me, but that doesn't mean they are terrible, it means they don't appeal to me. You knew perfectly well what he meant with his post. Why are you wasting energy arguing about the way he phrased it? Probably for the same reason you wasted energy chastising me for "arguing" about the way he phrased it. And for the same reason I am wasting energy responding to you. Fortunately, I have a lot of energy so I am able to do these things without falling out from exhaustion. It's a gift, I suppose.
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Post by Henry Mark on Nov 9, 2014 4:23:58 GMT -5
Russev is, for whatever reason, Receiving the monster heel push Bray should of gotten, I digress. His gimmick is too 1980's for me and his matches can be very meh I enjoy Bray Wyatt, but I don't think he's monster heel type material. It's kinda surprising to me that Rusev even is because although he looks thick and intimidating and is clearly very strong, he looks on the short end of what you'd expect out of the monster heel/hoss role. He's only 6 feet tall, but it's a nice change to see a shorter ass kicker beating up guys larger than him, which you typically see as a trait in a face. A monster heel, to me, is either strong, tall/large, or both. Although Bray is a heavier guy, it's not muscle weight like with Rusev, but he's also not fat (don't mean to imply they've got no muscle, just can't think of a better term right now to use) enough to be intimidating like a Bam Bam Bigelow, Umaga, etc, and he's not tall compared to other wrestlers either. I think he's great in the role he's in now, but I'd have a hard time buying him as a monster heel with his current size unless he gained either more fat weight or a lot more muscle mass since he can't gain any height, and I think that's why he wasn't booked into such a role.
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Post by BigWill on Nov 9, 2014 11:21:59 GMT -5
You knew perfectly well what he meant with his post. Why are you wasting energy arguing about the way he phrased it? Probably for the same reason you wasted energy chastising me for "arguing" about the way he phrased it. And for the same reason I am wasting energy responding to you. No, I'm pretty sure it's not.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2014 12:58:28 GMT -5
I would enjoy watching him and Ryback beat the shit out of each other. Rusev is cool when he's in there with other big dudes. His gimmick sucks the proverbial dick though and his Soul-Glo Jheri curl is pretty funny.
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