nisidhe
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Post by nisidhe on Nov 24, 2014 16:23:27 GMT -5
Now that the Authority has been defeated, can we please put all such angles - be they Mr. McMahon, Bischoff, Laurinaitis, the Helmsleys - to bed? Please?
I would suggest at least not touching any variation on the angle for the next five years, at least. It's a long time for cold storage of a creative idea, but the angle's be done to death and the possibility of it arising again might turn fans completely off the product as unimaginative. Sting, obviously, is a shoo-in for the next boss figure; hopefully, however, his presence will become comfortable to fans such that they won't notice necessarily when he's facing the Undertaker at WM.
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Post by Hit Girl on Nov 24, 2014 16:24:56 GMT -5
Big Johnny needs to return. He was never corrupt or evil. He was just giving people want they wanted
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Post by mizerable on Nov 24, 2014 16:25:21 GMT -5
It'll be short lived, because WWE only knows how to book so many ways. Look at how many times Vickie Guerrero was fired or quit, and she was back in no time. And considering Triple H and Stephanie are of a higher caliber, I think they'll be back by the next PPV in some capacity.
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Post by mrbananagrabber on Nov 24, 2014 17:10:25 GMT -5
Raw not opening to a 15 minutes HHH promo? That'll last.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 17:13:34 GMT -5
Nope. You'll get the start of Evil GM CJ Parker tonight and you'll like it.
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Post by horsemen4ever on Nov 24, 2014 17:18:35 GMT -5
It worked in the Attitude era because the top face of the company was Austin a rebel against authority character, so having Mr. McMahon as the authority figured worked. There is a reason why we had evil Mr. McMahon in the Austin era, and Jack Tunney in the Hogan era.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 17:19:14 GMT -5
Nope, it'll return. This has been WWE's go-to main angle since the Attitude Era.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Nov 24, 2014 17:21:06 GMT -5
Plus, given HHH is semi-retired from the ring, they're going to have to find some way to keep him around for the Sting match.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 17:22:39 GMT -5
It worked in the Attitude the top face of the company was Austin a rebel against authority, so having Mr. McMahon was the authority figured worked. There is a reason why we had evil Mr. McMahon in the Austin era, and Jack Tunney in the Hogan era. Nowadays presents kind of a conundrum on that. The whole anti-authority, "Screw the man!" days are alive and well, but less directed at someone's own boss and more at business in general. It seemed like the Authority was trying to invoke that with how often they talked about how things are best for business or acted like they based all of their decisions off of focus groups, but it just never really connected properly. I think largely just because it's such a cliche concept at this point and just needs to die out already, wrestling's been using it for way too long. No clue just what sort of big, company-wide angle they could really do next, though - Nexus and Awesome Truth are still too fresh in people's minds to really be doing the, "Outsiders raising hell, putting the whole company in danger," thing again, and that's pretty passe too by this point. Maybe could try a civil war thing, that could be interesting - just have a boss who isn't evil trying to hold things together while the roster becomes firmly segmented into two camps, with neither side being painted as all good or all evil. Though that would require way more complex writing than you'll ever see WWE do, especially these days with how simple and one-note every single feud is where most details are offscreen stuff communicated to us by Michael Cole trying to be heard over JBL.
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Post by KobashiChop on Nov 24, 2014 17:25:38 GMT -5
Yeah, just a good solid period of at least a year with a face GM that doesnt screw even the heels over.
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Post by Evil Homer on Nov 24, 2014 17:27:40 GMT -5
That angle needs to stay dead for a while , but unfortunately now we will get Cena as GM
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Post by KobashiChop on Nov 24, 2014 17:33:55 GMT -5
It worked in the Attitude the top face of the company was Austin a rebel against authority, so having Mr. McMahon was the authority figured worked. There is a reason why we had evil Mr. McMahon in the Austin era, and Jack Tunney in the Hogan era. Nowadays presents kind of a conundrum on that. The whole anti-authority, "Screw the man!" days are alive and well, but less directed at someone's own boss and more at business in general. It seemed like the Authority was trying to invoke that with how often they talked about how things are best for business or acted like they based all of their decisions off of focus groups, but it just never really connected properly. I think largely just because it's such a cliche concept at this point and just needs to die out already, wrestling's been using it for way too long. No clue just what sort of big, company-wide angle they could really do next, though - Nexus and Awesome Truth are still too fresh in people's minds to really be doing the, "Outsiders raising hell, putting the whole company in danger," thing again, and that's pretty passe too by this point. Maybe could try a civil war thing, that could be interesting - just have a boss who isn't evil trying to hold things together while the roster becomes firmly segmented into two camps, with neither side being painted as all good or all evil. Though that would require way more complex writing than you'll ever see WWE do, especially these days with how simple and one-note every single feud is where most details are offscreen stuff communicated to us by Michael Cole trying to be heard over JBL. Ive thought about this before and holy balls does it have the potential to be unreal.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Nov 24, 2014 17:43:01 GMT -5
Mick Foley as a Jack Tunney, show-up-occasionally authority figure would be good.
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Post by modestgenius on Nov 24, 2014 18:07:55 GMT -5
They need to do RAW is CHAOS.
It had potential years ago when JBL was trying to strong arm the show with hired goons, but it only lasted an episode. RAW should be a series of fires that good guy Cena has to put out and becomes more and more tempted to bring the Authority back so he can focus on Lesnar.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 18:09:17 GMT -5
When HHH and Steph are walking up the ramp from their firing/sendoff tonight Trips is gonna look back at the camera like. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}
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Post by Rolent Tex on Nov 24, 2014 18:19:52 GMT -5
We're gonna get GM Hogan or Sting that just shows up to make major decisions.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Nov 24, 2014 18:24:46 GMT -5
I'd love to believe it was over; but I don't. It's too easy a writing crutch for em to rely on. Hell, it doesn't seem like they can even book matches any more for any significant amount of time without this tired old trope.
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Post by Mondai Rogue on Nov 24, 2014 18:25:38 GMT -5
Big Johnny needs to return. He was never corrupt or evil. He was just giving people want they wanted Scientifically proven People Who Support People Power = 100% Everyone Else = 0% Big Johnny was screwed out of his job by a workforce that constantly undermined him apart from a select few. If the workers hadn't decided to screw him over, People Power would still be in effect and WWE would be a more glorious place with 100% more Otunga & coffee!
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Post by lildude8218 on Nov 24, 2014 18:26:14 GMT -5
Vince McMahon gives the power to the wrestlers. He let's them decide what they want to do, who they want to face, etc etc. He quickly realizes his mistake about 20 minutes into Raw and frantically calls up Eric Bischoff.
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Post by krozor on Nov 24, 2014 18:33:07 GMT -5
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