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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Nov 27, 2014 8:30:37 GMT -5
And they TRULY blamed Miz and Truth for the bad buy rate.Wow. They really just believe on what they want. I haven't listened to it, but Punk defended Miz? What sorcery is this?
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Post by Dub H on Nov 27, 2014 8:32:28 GMT -5
And they TRULY blamed Miz and Truth for the bad buy rate.Wow. They really just believe on what they want. I haven't listened to it, but Punk defended Miz? What sorcery is this? yeh he says how in the Rock pay per view, how it was ridiculous that they blamed miz and truth for the bad buy rate.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2014 8:36:15 GMT -5
I haven't listened to it, but Punk defended Miz? What sorcery is this? yeh he says how in the Rock pay per view, how it was ridiculous that they blamed miz and truth for the bad buy rate. To be fair he also pointed out that he shouldn't have been working with the Miz and Truth at one point (hinting they weren't high up enough, or at least that's how I took it.)
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Nov 27, 2014 8:36:35 GMT -5
I haven't listened to it, but Punk defended Miz? What sorcery is this? yeh he says how in the Rock pay per view, how it was ridiculous that they blamed miz and truth for the bad buy rate.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Nov 27, 2014 8:40:59 GMT -5
Who was that shitty doctor? Dr Nick from the simpsons? I can't hear it anywhere all the servers are down, what was said about Ryback? Just that he was unsafe?
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Post by Dub H on Nov 27, 2014 8:43:32 GMT -5
Who was that shitty doctor? Dr Nick from the simpsons? I can't hear it anywhere all the servers are down, what was said about Ryback? Just that he was unsafe? He enver said the name i think. Ryback purposely hit a kick that broke Punk's ribs. And then on the Paul Heyman feud, he missed a spot (some slam,maybe military press) that dropped him right into concrete again that hurt punks ribs. Punk went straight up to Ryback afterwards: Either you are REALLY dumb or you are doing it on purpose just tell me what it is. Ryback: (according to punk) Yeh,i'm sorry, i'm really dumb.
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Post by hossfan on Nov 27, 2014 8:46:02 GMT -5
Does Punk explain why he doesn't go see a doctor on his own to check out the infected cyst? Not excusing the WWE personnel for what sounds like total negligence, but if it was bothering him that much why not go get a second opinion?
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Post by Dub H on Nov 27, 2014 8:46:51 GMT -5
Does Punk explain why he doesn't go see a doctor on his own to check out the infected cyst? Not excusing the WWE personnel for what sounds like total negligence, but if it was bothering him that much why not go get a second opinion? Well,he does that afterwards ,but he does not explain why he didn't check another one,probably just dumb.
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Post by Society of the Spectacle on Nov 27, 2014 8:49:18 GMT -5
Just finished listening to it.
You know, it's really sad to listen to stories like Punk's and others who love wrestling so much and made so many sacrifices to get to WWE because they were huge fans and wanted to be part of that amazing lineage, and they just get chewed up and spit out, and come out the other side drained of their original love. It's really heartbreaking.
I mean, here we all are talking about wrestling, loving wrestling, fantasizing about somehow being a part of WWE (in the ring, writing, announcing, etc) when in reality, more likely than not, we would end up being so disgusted by the people and situations involved that we would never even want to watch wrestling anymore.
I'm not saying that I'm taking Punk's word as gospel, (even though I do love Punk, and wouldn't think he would lie about this stuff) but this interview (and others) really give me pause. I still love and want to support the passionate performers in WWE, but interviews like this really hammer home the idea that WWE is so far removed from the things that make it at its best, one of the most powerful forms of entertainment out there. And sure that could be said for any period of WWE as compared to the period before it, but it's just sad to look at the landscape now in these kinds of contexts.
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Post by lucas_lee on Nov 27, 2014 8:49:23 GMT -5
And they TRULY blamed Miz and Truth for the bad buy rate.Wow. They really just believe on what they want. And the doctor that was involved with Punk was really a piece of shit. Edit: here is a picture of Punk doctor at the WWE {Spoiler}{Spoiler} Blasphemy! Mario would never be so incompetent. It was actually this dude: {Spoiler}{Spoiler} He's not even a medical doctor, that's how shoddy the whole setup was! You both are wrong it's actually this doctor {Spoiler}
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Nov 27, 2014 8:54:09 GMT -5
Blasphemy! Mario would never be so incompetent. It was actually this dude: {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler} He's not even a medical doctor, that's how shoddy the whole setup was! You both are wrong it's actually this doctor A degree Hollywood Upstairs Medical College is still a medical qualification.
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Nov 27, 2014 9:05:17 GMT -5
Just finally got a copy. Will listen to it later. But I doubt it will change my opinion on Punk. I am of the mind that he finally realized his prima donna ways were not going to work in WWE,so he took his ball and went home. Then you might as well not listen to it, because going into it with that kind of narrow-mindedness, it's just all going to sound like fiction to you. Also, you're not even in the kind of position to have a picture of the situation to where you can come to a likely conclusion. I mean, getting the story from the source has got to be a lot more credible than some random person on the internet saying "well he must have taken his ball and went home". Listening to it right now. Yep Punk is his normal whiny self. Sure some of the things he mentions sound horrible. But other things he comes off as "WAHHH I DIDNT GET MY WAY f*** YOU!" Plus how do we know Punk isn't working all of us? The only people that know why he left are him and the WWE. Talking to some people that know wrestlers in WWE,seems like Punk has been being a pain in the ass backstage for over 2 years.
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Post by Wrestling Curmudgeon on Nov 27, 2014 9:06:15 GMT -5
CM Punk is still an asshole. Staph infections are scary thought, glad he got that checked out. And it's ok Punk, Mr. Burns never cared for the doctor either.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Nov 27, 2014 9:14:12 GMT -5
I'm glad he doesn't seem to be going the typical "Cena/Orton/Insert Guy Here held me down cuz they scared I'm a better weswa!" Route like Tyler Reks and Tarver did.
Some of that shit sounds baaaad though.
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Post by Just call me D.j.m. on Nov 27, 2014 9:15:25 GMT -5
Then you might as well not listen to it, because going into it with that kind of narrow-mindedness, it's just all going to sound like fiction to you. Also, you're not even in the kind of position to have a picture of the situation to where you can come to a likely conclusion. I mean, getting the story from the source has got to be a lot more credible than some random person on the internet saying "well he must have taken his ball and went home". Listening to it right now. Yep Punk is his normal whiny self. Sure some of the things he mentions sound horrible. But other things he comes off as "WAHHH I DIDNT GET MY WAY f*** YOU!" Plus how do we know Punk isn't working all of us? The only people that know why he left are him and the WWE. Talking to some people that know wrestlers in WWE,seems like Punk has been being a pain in the ass backstage for over 2 years. Just by coincidence, I had listened to Talk Is Jericho early yesterday, and the guest was Seth Rollins. When he talked about how the Shield was formed and created, a lot of what he said synced up with what Punk was saying. Also, Alberto's contractual issues (no-compete, UFC, etc) are things he's discussed as well, along with saying he couldn't be prouder of Punk for doing what he did and how the two of them were on the same page on a lot of things. Now, I get it. Workers gonna work, but too much of that syncs up too well, especially with someone still contracted to wWE and being groomed for the future telling his side of things that just happened to sync up pretty well. But, hey. I get it.
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Post by Red Impact on Nov 27, 2014 9:40:25 GMT -5
I know pre-conceived bias tends to rule the day with these things, but you know, even if the only thing that was true was about the medical stuff, then people are being delusional if they give WWE the benefit of the doubt inany issue with how they treat their wrestlers. That's not just someone whining, that's the company being borderling criminally negligent.
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Post by The Sam on Nov 27, 2014 9:49:09 GMT -5
Just finished. Great episode. Like others have said, WWE sounds like an awful place to work.
Interested in next weeks episode with the Q&A.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Nov 27, 2014 10:11:41 GMT -5
Here is a quick story, those of you that are familiar with hockey will know it.
Eric Lindros was hurt. Over the night he got progressively worse. His roommate Keith Jones got the team doctor, John Worley. The doctor checked him out, and wanted to send him back to Philadelphia for tests. It was Keith Jones, who had been watching Lindros get worse, who told Eric and the doctor that Lindros shouldn't get on that plane and instead should go to the hospital. He was right. Lindros had a collapsed lung, and the plane would have killed him. Lindros would also have issues with the Flyers because he had concussions and was unable to get back on the ice. This was 14 years ago, before the affects of concussions were common knowledge, and when Bobby Clarke and Ed Snider, two guys who's think in terms of 1970s.
Now why do I bring this up. 2 reasons. One, when you have a team doctor, and I am comparing the WWE to a team, there is increasing pressure to get your players back on the field, and often that overrides common sense. We saw this more in sports 10-20 years ago, but I really consider the WWE thinking about 10-20 years behind sports(sports also have a union to protect them). The 2nd reason I bring it up is the treatment of concussions, which are still way under diagnosed, and I can't imagine it any different in WWE. Daniel Bryan had what was described as a serious concussion on the January 13th episode of Raw, yet still wrestled at the Royal Rumble two weeks later, and he was one of the few that was diagnosed(think Ziggler missed alot of time with another). I really can't imagine how many wrestlers work with head injuries over fear of losing their spot, and for those in the top card, there will be pressure on the doctors to pass them.
The doctors works for the WWE. That is who pays them, and their job is to get the wrestlers back out there to perform.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Nov 27, 2014 10:19:30 GMT -5
The stories about his condition were honestly scary to me it's so sad how he got himself in that condition and got treated the way he did. And I love how everybody even Batista himself could see that the main event of WMania was going to be awful without Bryan involved. The thing that still baffles me about Bryan originally not being in the main event was that they spent all this time building up Daniel Bryan vs. The Authority and even when they did put him in, it worked so well right from the start. It's like they had the buildup all planned out and just didn't want to pull the trigger which seems like a huge waste of resources to me. I still disagree with this statement. Daniel Bryan was feuding with The Wyatt Family for 3 months going into the Royal Rumble, not The Authority. That story had somewhat ended already. At least in Punk's case, he had some shit going on with The Shield and Kane, who were kind of in The Authority at the time, so he probably had more of a case as "being built up to face one of them"
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2014 10:22:06 GMT -5
Just listened to the first 30 minutes, and man, Punk is saying a lot of things about the company that I suspected. I don't blame him one bit for leaving.
Fascinating interview so far.
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