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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Dec 11, 2014 19:25:25 GMT -5
^Yeah someone's getting a good amount of money to take a dive in Punk's first fight.
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Post by JTG Fan on Dec 11, 2014 19:26:59 GMT -5
*6 months from now* Dana White: Gentleman, dismember the corpse and send the widow a corsage.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Dec 11, 2014 19:30:25 GMT -5
Maybe he can fight Ed O'Neil in his first UFC fight. Or Bob Sapp since he's willing to take dives if the price is right.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 11, 2014 22:20:22 GMT -5
Good grief. It's like he's going: "Yeah, fighting will be fun. Granted, I've never really done much of the whole hitting other people and being hit by other people thing."
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Dec 11, 2014 23:19:35 GMT -5
I do not see this ending well. link
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Post by Society of the Spectacle on Dec 12, 2014 1:21:48 GMT -5
I do not see this ending well. linkNot trying to play devil's advocate, but that sounds too obvious. I think he's playing his cards close to the vest by feigning inexperience. Punk might be a super-fan who wants to live a dream, but he can't be that oblivious about how stupid and disrespectful an untrained fighter walking into the UFC and saying stuff like this is. I'm not even saying that he even has the amount of experience he needs to be successful at all in the Octagon. I'm just saying that there would be no way that Dana, these commissions (who already seem leery), the Gracies, or AJ would let Punk do this if he indeed is as inexperienced as he described in the passage above.
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Post by Andy Martin on Dec 12, 2014 3:00:20 GMT -5
King Mo was quite complimentary of Punk during an interview he gave a couple days ago, saying Punk 'moved like a brown belt' on the ground. So who the hell knows what's true and what isn't?
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Post by Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster on Dec 12, 2014 6:56:05 GMT -5
Maybe he can fight Ed O'Neil in his first UFC fight. Or Bob Sapp since he's willing to take dives if the price is right. They would be better off just getting either one of those two bums that Lashley has fought against in Bellator.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Dec 12, 2014 7:03:42 GMT -5
Maybe he can fight Ed O'Neil in his first UFC fight. Or Bob Sapp since he's willing to take dives if the price is right. They would be better off just getting either one of those two bums that Lashley has fought against in Bellator. The problem with Lashley is he has no killer instinct. His palookas got to guide him through the fight in order to lose. Basic openings that even a novice would capitalize on are lost to Bobby. I'm afraid with Punk is that he will break a bone trying to go full bad ass in the Octagon and lose via forfeit which will ruin his and Dana's plans.
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Post by mcstoklasa on Dec 12, 2014 7:21:06 GMT -5
Jesus, Punk, youre one of the best in the world at fake fighting. Maybe you should stick to that. And no, fake fighting is not an insult. It takes so much skill, athleticism, timing, practice and physical toughness to do what wrestlers do.
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Post by Red Impact on Dec 12, 2014 7:38:40 GMT -5
While I'm sure the money and resources are nice, it must kinda suck to be famous. Anybody who achieves any kind of mainstream fame doing something is **** all over the minute they try to do something else. Oh, so this *wrestler* thinks he can do *movies* now? He's gonna get laughed out of Hollywood! Oh, so this *wrestler* thinks he can write? Stick to what you're good at! Oh, so this *wrestler* thinks he can fight for *real*? He's gonna get embarassed! Oh, so this *wrestler* thinks he can teach yoga? What a joke! Oh, so this *wrestler* thinks he can be a podcast interviewer? Have fun with your 12 listeners. Oh, so this *wrestler* thinks he can be a musician now? May he'll open for Bieber. Oh, so this *wrestler* thinks he can be a politician? Keep to ONE fake competition. Leaving aside that the biggest action star in Hollywood is a former WWE Champion, there are multiple best-selling authors who are current/former wrestlers, the biggest MMA draw is a WWE guy, many of the highest ranked podcasts are hosted by wrestlers, and Jessie Ventura exists... ...that would be absurd to think of anybody outside of show business. It'd be like saying that it's unthinkable for somebody to go from working at Wal-Mart to doing an office job. People change their careers all the time. I think it's just some weird OCD thing that makes people think that celebrities can't POSSIBLY do something other than what we've seen them do. This isn't a wrestler deciding to do a podcast (which, I don't know who would think they would be disqualified from that, given that there is no standard for runnin a podcast), this is a guy with more than a decade of wear and tear on his body doing entering a competitive field that is difficult for people who much younger and have more training and experience. Being an old wrestler doesn't affect your ability to pursue any of these other ventures (except in the public's eye) like it would for being an MMA fighter. It's not a good comparison.
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Post by Brian Suntan on Dec 12, 2014 8:43:46 GMT -5
Reminds me a lot of when Freddie Flintoff decided he was going to be a heavyweight boxer.
For people not in the UK, Freddie Flintoff was one of the most successful and loved cricketers ever, who (during a period of retirement) announced he was becoming a professional boxer. Huge interest created and a TV show was made following his training (complete with footage of him looking good in sparring, notable boxing names saying how he's actually really good).
His first fight was headlining at a big arena on a subscription TV channel against an unbeaten American. Four (two minute) rounds of some of the worst boxing technique you will ever see followed, where Flintoff was put down by pretty much the only shot the other guy threw. Nevertheless, windmilling won the day and he made it through to get the W. He then announced that it was a dream come true to do it, but he'd never do it again.
That's pretty much how I see this going down. There's going to be tons of publicity, lots of footage of him training, plenty of guys coming out and saying "Hey this guy is a natural". Then on PPV he'll be pitched against someone who will basically (paid off or not) be inactive enough for Punk to get the decision. Off into the sunset he goes.
You cannot become a world class MMA fighter in six months.
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Post by barelybeastmode on Dec 12, 2014 13:34:43 GMT -5
I do not see this ending well. link Not trying to play devil's advocate, but that sounds too obvious. I think he's playing his cards close to the vest by feigning inexperience. Punk might be a super-fan who wants to live a dream, but he can't be that oblivious about how stupid and disrespectful an untrained fighter walking into the UFC and saying stuff like this is. I'm not even saying that he even has the amount of experience he needs to be successful at all in the Octagon. I'm just saying that there would be no way that Dana, these commissions (who already seem leery), the Gracies, or AJ would let Punk do this if he indeed is as inexperienced as he described in the passage above. That was my exact first thought when I saw that interview.
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Post by honsou on Dec 12, 2014 14:50:05 GMT -5
King Mo was quite complimentary of Punk during an interview he gave a couple days ago, saying Punk 'moved like a brown belt' on the ground. So who the hell knows what's true and what isn't? King Mo is also the guy who said James Toney tapped him out a few times so hes not really the best person to say who is good on the ground.
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Post by Hit Girl on Dec 12, 2014 14:51:54 GMT -5
Dixie got really excited when she heard this news.
She thought TNA had signed him
Then someone reminded her that the TNA ring is a hexagon
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 12, 2014 18:29:52 GMT -5
He may be playing a little coy, but the problem with that line of thinking is even if he's more skilled than he's letting on, he can't possibly be THAT prepared just in terms of the sheer timeframe from when he wrestled last.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Dec 12, 2014 18:36:43 GMT -5
Artist's rendering:
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Post by xCompackx on Dec 12, 2014 19:58:25 GMT -5
I do not see this ending well. linkNot trying to play devil's advocate, but that sounds too obvious. I think he's playing his cards close to the vest by feigning inexperience. Punk might be a super-fan who wants to live a dream, but he can't be that oblivious about how stupid and disrespectful an untrained fighter walking into the UFC and saying stuff like this is. I'm not even saying that he even has the amount of experience he needs to be successful at all in the Octagon. I'm just saying that there would be no way that Dana, these commissions (who already seem leery), the Gracies, or AJ would let Punk do this if he indeed is as inexperienced as he described in the passage above. Just my two cents, but even feigning inexperience doesn't seem like a smart decision when people are already expecting Punk's run in UFC to fail quickly. I mean, there's going to be plenty of eyes on his first fight for whatever reason, but I'm not sure it's better to pretend you don't know anything rather than just say you have training.
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Post by eDemento2099 on Dec 13, 2014 6:19:26 GMT -5
If the IWC had been around circa 1994, what would it have said about Dan Severn going into UFC 4 & 5?
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 13, 2014 9:04:38 GMT -5
Not a whole lot I'd wager, since Severn was an extremely accomplished amateur wrestler, with YEARS of competition experience.
It's not remotely the same.
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