failed gimmick matches

[jmule]

So how many dumb gimmick matches have there been in wwf/wcw that only happened once and were never heard from again?

We have hell in a kennel
And I think the Armageddon hell in a cell only happened once right?

Did wcw do that spin the wheel gimmick more than once or was that just for jake/sting?

[Brood Lone Wolf Funker]

What about the Chamber of Horrors match

[Angus Mcloud]

Dec 7, 2014 11:07:29 GMT -5 jmule said:

So how many dumb gimmick matches have there been in wwf/wcw that only happened once and were never heard from again?

We have hell in a kennel
And I think the Armageddon hell in a cell only happened once right?

Did wcw do that spin the wheel gimmick more than once or was that just for jake/sting?

There was another Spin the Wheel. I wanna say for a Cactus Jack match

[jmule]

Dec 7, 2014 11:49:02 GMT -5 Brood Lone Wolf Funker said:

What about the Chamber of Horrors match

Isn't that part of dungeon of doom?

[Sephiroth]

The triple cage match

[Hit Girl]

Punjabi Bamboo Prison match, or whatever the hell it was called.

[Instant Classic]

Scramble match, but I love the match and it'd be a great midcard title match.

[jmule]

Oops, I almost forgot the classic jail house match

[Brood Lone Wolf Funker]

Dec 7, 2014 12:17:56 GMT -5 jmule said:

Dec 7, 2014 11:49:02 GMT -5 Brood Lone Wolf Funker said:

What about the Chamber of Horrors match

Isn't that part of dungeon of doom?

Nope random match from Halloween Havoc 1991 it ended when Abdullah the Butcher was "electrocuted"

[BlackoutCreature]

Dec 7, 2014 11:50:57 GMT -5 Angus Mcloud said:

Dec 7, 2014 11:07:29 GMT -5 jmule said:

So how many dumb gimmick matches have there been in wwf/wcw that only happened once and were never heard from again?

We have hell in a kennel
And I think the Armageddon hell in a cell only happened once right?

Did wcw do that spin the wheel gimmick more than once or was that just for jake/sting?

There was another Spin the Wheel. I wanna say for a Cactus Jack match

Cactus Jack vs. Vader at Halloween Havoc 93.

Dec 7, 2014 12:26:47 GMT -5 Sephiroth said:

The triple cage match

There were two of these, the DDP-Jarrett-Arquette match and Russo's dumbass attempt at War Games on Nitro. More if you want to count the Doomsday Cage Match at Uncensored 96 or the old Tower of Doom Match, both of which used similar concept.

I was gonna say the Catch-As-Catch-Can Match that WCW used at Souled Out 2000, but looking at the actual rules it sounds like I've seen matches contested under those stipulations before, just with a different name.

But hey, if we're mentioning the dying days of WCW, might as well throw the "Human Torch Match" out there.

Looking at TNA, there's always the "Last Rites Match" (which I guess is just a glorified Casket Match), the match that created the "Fire Russo!" chant.

In ECW's dying days they had the "Double Jeopardy Match" which was basically a four-man mini tournament where all the matches took place at the same time. I actually thought it was a pretty good idea in concept, but it was poorly executed.

But if we're gonna talk about failed ECW gimmick matches, then the "Body Count Match" in their early days between Public Enemy and Badd Company must be mentioned.

[A Platypus Rave]

Dec 7, 2014 12:26:52 GMT -5 Hit Girl said:

Punjabi Bamboo Prison match, or whatever the hell it was called.

Dec 7, 2014 13:07:59 GMT -5 Instant Classic said:

Scramble match, but I love the match and it'd be a great midcard title match.

both of these happened more than once.

[Instant Classic]

Dec 7, 2014 14:40:22 GMT -5 A Platypus Rave said:

Dec 7, 2014 12:26:52 GMT -5 Hit Girl said:

Punjabi Bamboo Prison match, or whatever the hell it was called.

Dec 7, 2014 13:07:59 GMT -5 Instant Classic said:

Scramble match, but I love the match and it'd be a great midcard title match.

both of these happened more than once.

Oh didn't read carefully. lol

[Sephiroth]

That one where Booker T and Jarrett had to break open boxes around the ring

[karl100589]

The Dog Poop Match between Rock and Sock against Bulldog and Val Venis.

[tigermaskxxxvii]

Dec 7, 2014 14:25:29 GMT -5 BlackoutCreature said:

Dec 7, 2014 11:50:57 GMT -5 Angus Mcloud said:

There was another Spin the Wheel. I wanna say for a Cactus Jack match

Cactus Jack vs. Vader at Halloween Havoc 93.

Dec 7, 2014 12:26:47 GMT -5 Sephiroth said:

The triple cage match

There were two of these, the DDP-Jarrett-Arquette match and Russo's dumbass attempt at War Games on Nitro. More if you want to count the Doomsday Cage Match at Uncensored 96 or the old Tower of Doom Match, both of which used similar concept.

I was gonna say the Catch-As-Catch-Can Match that WCW used at Souled Out 2000, but looking at the actual rules it sounds like I've seen matches contested under those stipulations before, just with a different name.

But hey, if we're mentioning the dying days of WCW, might as well throw the "Human Torch Match" out there.

Looking at TNA, there's always the "Last Rites Match" (which I guess is just a glorified Casket Match), the match that created the "Fire Russo!" chant.

In ECW's dying days they had the "Double Jeopardy Match" which was basically a four-man mini tournament where all the matches took place at the same time. I actually thought it was a pretty good idea in concept, but it was poorly executed.

But if we're gonna talk about failed ECW gimmick matches, then the "Body Count Match" in their early days between Public Enemy and Badd Company must be mentioned.

I never saw the Double Jeopardy match, but what I heard is the main criticism of the match is that both of the semi-finals ended basically simultaneously. Is that accurate? Because if so I can see how that can be seen as squandering such a great premise as you could have badly hurt and bleeding Corino winning his match first and using the brief break to recover. Or you could have Justin Credible winning his match first, which gives him an even greater advantage over the badly hurt and bleeding Corino that Corino must overcome.

Also, what the hell was the Body Count match ("There goes the neighborhood!")?

[BlackoutCreature]

Dec 7, 2014 18:22:58 GMT -5 tigermaskxxxvii said:

Dec 7, 2014 14:25:29 GMT -5 BlackoutCreature said:

Cactus Jack vs. Vader at Halloween Havoc 93.

There were two of these, the DDP-Jarrett-Arquette match and Russo's dumbass attempt at War Games on Nitro. More if you want to count the Doomsday Cage Match at Uncensored 96 or the old Tower of Doom Match, both of which used similar concept.

I was gonna say the Catch-As-Catch-Can Match that WCW used at Souled Out 2000, but looking at the actual rules it sounds like I've seen matches contested under those stipulations before, just with a different name.

But hey, if we're mentioning the dying days of WCW, might as well throw the "Human Torch Match" out there.

Looking at TNA, there's always the "Last Rites Match" (which I guess is just a glorified Casket Match), the match that created the "Fire Russo!" chant.

In ECW's dying days they had the "Double Jeopardy Match" which was basically a four-man mini tournament where all the matches took place at the same time. I actually thought it was a pretty good idea in concept, but it was poorly executed.

But if we're gonna talk about failed ECW gimmick matches, then the "Body Count Match" in their early days between Public Enemy and Badd Company must be mentioned.

I never saw the Double Jeopardy match, but what I heard is the main criticism of the match is that both of the semi-finals ended basically simultaneously. Is that accurate? Because if so I can see how that can be seen as squandering such a great premise as you could have badly hurt and bleeding Corino winning his match first and using the brief break to recover. Or you could have Justin Credible winning his match first, which gives him an even greater advantage over the badly hurt and bleeding Corino that Corino must overcome.

Also, what the hell was the Body Count match ("There goes the neighborhood!")?

For the Double Jeopardy Match, yeah, that was part of it. My big thing though was, except for Sandman, none of these guys really came off as ECW World Champ material, and then you have Corino win the title without ever even scoring a fall over the previous champ Jerry Lynn. A lot of it just had to do with the general problems ECW was having at the time. They needed a strong, credible World Champ to rebuild the company around yet all Heyman was doing was hotshotting the belt on whatever mid-carder du jour he got interested in hoping they'd take off just so he could say he created a new superstar, and none ever did.

As for the Body Count Match, and I'm only going by second hand knowledge, I've never seen the actual match, but in 1993 at the ECW Arena Rocco Rock and Pat Tanaka had a match where their tag team partners, Johnny Grunge and Paul Diamond respectively, were locked in cages hanging above the ring. After 15 minutes, the cage with Grunge and Diamond in it would explode, presumably killing both guys (yeah, I know). The goal was for either Rock or Tanaka to win their match, obtain the key to the cages from winning the match, and let their partner escape while their opponents cage exploded. In addition to how ridiculous the whole idea was, according to Joey Styles the "explosion" was pathetic on just about every account and the fans were about ready to riot after seeing the whole thing.

[tigermaskxxxvii]

Dec 7, 2014 18:49:23 GMT -5 BlackoutCreature said:

Dec 7, 2014 18:22:58 GMT -5 tigermaskxxxvii said:

I never saw the Double Jeopardy match, but what I heard is the main criticism of the match is that both of the semi-finals ended basically simultaneously. Is that accurate? Because if so I can see how that can be seen as squandering such a great premise as you could have badly hurt and bleeding Corino winning his match first and using the brief break to recover. Or you could have Justin Credible winning his match first, which gives him an even greater advantage over the badly hurt and bleeding Corino that Corino must overcome.

Also, what the hell was the Body Count match ("There goes the neighborhood!")?

For the Double Jeopardy Match, yeah, that was part of it. My big thing though was, except for Sandman, none of these guys really came off as ECW World Champ material, and then you have Corino win the title without ever even scoring a fall over the previous champ Jerry Lynn. A lot of it just had to do with the general problems ECW was having at the time. They needed a strong, credible World Champ to rebuild the company around yet all Heyman was doing was hotshotting the belt on whatever mid-carder du jour he got interested in hoping they'd take off just so he could say he created a new superstar, and none ever did.

As for the Body Count Match, and I'm only going by second hand knowledge, I've never seen the actual match, but in 1993 at the ECW Arena Rocco Rock and Pat Tanaka had a match where their tag team partners, Johnny Grunge and Paul Diamond respectively, were locked in cages hanging above the ring. After 15 minutes, the cage with Grunge and Diamond in it would explode, presumably killing both guys (yeah, I know). The goal was for either Rock or Tanaka to win their match, obtain the key to the cages from winning the match, and let their partner escape while their opponents cage exploded. In addition to how ridiculous the whole idea was, according to Joey Styles the "explosion" was pathetic on just about every account and the fans were about ready to riot after seeing the whole thing.

Ok, I heard the story about the Body Count Match in Joey Styles interview from Forever Hardcore in a deleted scene and from Tod Gordon in a deleted scene from Barbed Wire City. I just never heard it referred to as a "Body Count Match". I just heard to it as ECW's bomb match (in more ways than one).

[Mozenrath]

Dec 7, 2014 17:46:59 GMT -5 Sephiroth said:

That one where Booker T and Jarrett had to break open boxes around the ring

True, though they did actually do something very similar for a match between Rhino and Christian in TNA, where you'd retrieve items off of poles that would help in an upcoming cage match the two had. I actually thought that was a decent spin on it, stuff like wire cutters.

[Deleted]

Most of the strap matches are executed horribly because one guy can be laying in the middle of the ring while the other guy just uses the slack in the strap to walk around and slap the turnbuckles.

[chrom]

Dec 7, 2014 18:49:23 GMT -5 BlackoutCreature said:

Dec 7, 2014 18:22:58 GMT -5 tigermaskxxxvii said:

I never saw the Double Jeopardy match, but what I heard is the main criticism of the match is that both of the semi-finals ended basically simultaneously. Is that accurate? Because if so I can see how that can be seen as squandering such a great premise as you could have badly hurt and bleeding Corino winning his match first and using the brief break to recover. Or you could have Justin Credible winning his match first, which gives him an even greater advantage over the badly hurt and bleeding Corino that Corino must overcome.

Also, what the hell was the Body Count match ("There goes the neighborhood!")?

For the Double Jeopardy Match, yeah, that was part of it. My big thing though was, except for Sandman, none of these guys really came off as ECW World Champ material, and then you have Corino win the title without ever even scoring a fall over the previous champ Jerry Lynn. A lot of it just had to do with the general problems ECW was having at the time. They needed a strong, credible World Champ to rebuild the company around yet all Heyman was doing was hotshotting the belt on whatever mid-carder du jour he got interested in hoping they'd take off just so he could say he created a new superstar, and none ever did.

As for the Body Count Match, and I'm only going by second hand knowledge, I've never seen the actual match, but in 1993 at the ECW Arena Rocco Rock and Pat Tanaka had a match where their tag team partners, Johnny Grunge and Paul Diamond respectively, were locked in cages hanging above the ring. After 15 minutes, the cage with Grunge and Diamond in it would explode, presumably killing both guys (yeah, I know). The goal was for either Rock or Tanaka to win their match, obtain the key to the cages from winning the match, and let their partner escape while their opponents cage exploded. In addition to how ridiculous the whole idea was, according to Joey Styles the "explosion" was pathetic on just about every account and the fans were about ready to riot after seeing the whole thing.

That's WrestleCrap at its finest.