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Post by RedDevil on Dec 7, 2014 17:27:10 GMT -5
I suppose they could rotate the roster in terms of when they have mandatory time-off - like everyone works January-April to cover the Rumble and WrestleMania, but then a selection of guys have 6/8-weeks off whilst the rest continue on screen. Divide the guys up across the roster so you have some NXT, lower and midcard guys off along with Cena for two months, but still have the rest of the roster led by Orton, Rollins and Bryan to keep things going.
Then when the Cena group of the roster returns, another group led by say Orton has time off. Make allowances for guys who have been out with injuries, or other issues, and mix-up the times guys have off each year, give them strict orders not to work during their time off (indies, etc.) as well as put Vince on a sedative when Cena is away to prevent him panicking and calling him back when the ratings drop by 0.3% and Cena isn't there.
They probably do something like that already, but it does seem at least the top guys are on every damn PPV all year round unless they are injured.
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Post by fw91 on Dec 7, 2014 17:33:19 GMT -5
or how about just TV shows only from October-January? To make up for revenue, tour NXT on the road in smaller venues around the country
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Post by Push R Truth on Dec 7, 2014 17:53:09 GMT -5
Rather than guys leaving for a couple months at a time, I wonder if what would happen if a top guy put something "minute based" into his contract. Like no more than 60 minutes a month of wrestling action, that includes house shows/ppv/tv. Doesn't include non-wrestling roles.
Not as restricting as X-appearances, yet keeps a guy from getting run down over time.
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Post by Boo! on Dec 7, 2014 17:54:41 GMT -5
The roster has been "too thin to take time off" for about 10 years now, you'd have thought it would have been addressed. Only conclusion you reach is that they don't give a shit about people getting time off.
I think the long term solution is to tape more and allow guys to rest in between tapings. The wars are over - live every week isn't necessary.
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Post by modestgenius on Dec 7, 2014 18:13:49 GMT -5
Yes, every star should be given a mandatory 3 months of at some point in the 12 month contract. You stagger these holidays.
WWE are forced to elevate current stars.
Talent gets much needed healing time.
They come back with renewed focus and motivation.
TV is constantly kept fresh because of the revolving roster.
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Post by molson5 on Dec 7, 2014 18:19:31 GMT -5
The roster has been "too thin to take time off" for about 10 years now, you'd have thought it would have been addressed. Only conclusion you reach is that they don't give a shit about people getting time off. Yes, and the thin roster, oddly, is a choice. The WWE can sign almost anyone in the world they want and could have a roster of any size they want. With 5 hours of TV programming a week, plus PPVs and Superstars, they just don't use enough guys.
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Post by HMARK Center on Dec 7, 2014 18:57:56 GMT -5
Yes, every star should be given a mandatory 3 months of at some point in the 12 month contract. You stagger these holidays. WWE are forced to elevate current stars. Talent gets much needed healing time. They come back with renewed focus and motivation. TV is constantly kept fresh because of the revolving roster. Kind of beat me to it: going to an offseason model forces the WWE to focus on long term dividends over short term gain/profit, but it would leave them healthier for it in the long run. If you know there's gonna be x-amount of time when Cena's not around, then it's REALLY in your interest to make sure you have stars besides John Cena ready to go on your roster, and maybe your writers will make sure you don't totally discredit everybody else when they know they could be without their main star during the summer months (or whenever).
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2014 19:02:27 GMT -5
The problem is that it means *gasp* building new stars to carry the show while the established guys are out of action. Then they can be used to build up Cena when he comes back!
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 7, 2014 19:06:54 GMT -5
As i've said before I think this will allow the WWE, to focus on the whole roster as a whole while giving people time off and also letting them explore other projects of their own. I believe there is only a matter of time as I stated in the opening before guys like Cena and Orton decide they've had enough and decide to focus on other things. Orton is still young and has the looks to make it else where if he keeps at it and Cena has the name brand and charisma to at least be able do supporting roles like Batista has done.
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Post by Red Impact on Dec 7, 2014 19:26:50 GMT -5
I think it'd be a good idea. However, if you run into the problem where guys won't take time off or whatnot, then you could, at the very least, give them periods of time where they travel to do segments/promos but don't have in-ring contact. That may not have as good an effect on decreasing burnout, but it would give more healing time which is really teh biggest point.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Dec 7, 2014 19:30:29 GMT -5
Rather than guys leaving for a couple months at a time, I wonder if what would happen if a top guy put something "minute based" into his contract. Like no more than 60 minutes a month of wrestling action, that includes house shows/ppv/tv. Doesn't include non-wrestling roles. Not as restricting as X-appearances, yet keeps a guy from getting run down over time. That still keeps them on the road which is a huge part of the grind. That is why TNA was such a huge option for a short time, no travel.
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Post by xCompackx on Dec 7, 2014 19:45:24 GMT -5
Vince is working these guys as if wrestling is still in a boom, when it's the furthest thing from one. Giving guys a couple months to rest is not going to bankrupt them.
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Post by HMARK Center on Dec 7, 2014 21:04:13 GMT -5
People are right to point this out, though: under the current business model, it kills guys financially to be off the road at all.
Even top guys could be threatened so long as there's this "your spot isn't safe" mentality they use, and as long as they make these guys bank on royalty fees for merchandise and live gate bonuses. If an offseason is to be introduced, the whole business model needs to be changed, as well.
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Post by ededdneddy on Dec 8, 2014 3:11:52 GMT -5
Just watch they give Cena time off and he still shows up to work.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Dec 8, 2014 3:25:51 GMT -5
Not for nothing but Punk got that time off for about 3 months in the middle of 2013 so he's probably not the best example for that
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Post by Evil Homer on Dec 8, 2014 3:58:48 GMT -5
giving guys off 2 months total year would be a great way for them to keep things fresh , it doesent have to be 2 months in a row- 2-3 week here and there. Also it would force them to write new storylines
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Post by Hobby Drifter on Dec 8, 2014 4:31:15 GMT -5
God, yes.
Starting either the day after Wrestlemania or the day following the RAW after Wrestlemania. Not just the top talents, but *everybody* on the main roster. For 6-10 weeks after Mania, NXT can be the primary show.
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Post by Clawley Race on Dec 8, 2014 4:44:12 GMT -5
The offseason should be October, November, and December. That would never happen. Any "offseason" so to speak would just be a rotating version of time off. The WWE isn't going to just not have shows for 1/4 of the year. BUT, if Cena is off Nov-Dec, and every other top guy gets 2 scheduled months off at different times throughout the year (obviously everyone is going to want to be on RR-WM) then it could work easily without anything really being lost. Whenever someone loses the title at Wrestlemania they should get the next 4 months off or so, especially after a long reign.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 8, 2014 5:03:14 GMT -5
I saw someone point out that in terms of finances it would be hard for even top guys to be off the road. That is true but that also feeds into the fact that if you have time off here n there then u can allow yourself the time to involve yourself in differnt things. Like I said before I see Cena as a guy that if he was to get a big break in a movie he would jump at it. He's not a guy that worries about finances but WWE needs to let their guys test different waters. Some guys I do think need to find themselves and be able to offer different opinions when they come back.
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Post by Session Moth is over on Dec 8, 2014 6:35:07 GMT -5
There is no need for an offseason. WWE would lose a lot of money they can't afford to right now.
A better idea would be rotation. Guys work 10 months of the year and get two off. That way WWE get to stay full time and all the wrestlers get a much needed rest. There is a big enough roster to do this.
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