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Post by Hit Girl on Dec 8, 2014 6:50:09 GMT -5
A better idea would be to build as many stars as possible so they aren't reliant on a select few that are overworked.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Dec 8, 2014 7:04:08 GMT -5
Forget top guys. EVERYONE should have one.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 8, 2014 7:08:08 GMT -5
Forget top guys. EVERYONE should have one. I said this before, I only said top guys because if you offer the same to midcarders they wouldn't take it. Those are the young and hungry guys who would jump at the chance to move up and once they are established then they would take the time off. Obviously a guy like The Miz is safe because he can fit anywhere but other guys would try to advance their position and try to come off as impressive to management. |
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Dec 8, 2014 7:11:36 GMT -5
Forget top guys. EVERYONE should have one. I said this before, I only said top guys because if you offer the same to midcarders they wouldn't take it. Those are the young and hungry guys who would jump at the chance to move up and once they are established then they would take the time off. Obviously a guy like The Miz is safe because he can fit anywhere but other guys would try to advance their position and try to come off as impressive to management. WWE would never have an off-season now because they make too much money running shows all year round. That is the nature of the business now. The off-season is a hypothetical, so in that hypothetical the young guys would be expecting an off season just like the top stars would. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 8, 2014 7:12:05 GMT -5
There is no need for an offseason. WWE would lose a lot of money they can't afford to right now. A better idea would be rotation. Guys work 10 months of the year and get two off. That way WWE get to stay full time and all the wrestlers get a much needed rest. There is a big enough roster to do this. Good idea, I didn't mean literal whole offseason but i've seen it suggested before in terms of rotation. Cena has a group, Orton has a group and so on. i bring up offseason now because in terms of star power WWE has been hit hard over the last few months because of lack of said star power. I just think giving top guys time off and allowing your established part timers such as RVD or even Booker if he still wants to wrestle, can make for a good recipe of wrestlers aren't worn out and fans see a good variety of guys. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 8, 2014 7:16:43 GMT -5
I said this before, I only said top guys because if you offer the same to midcarders they wouldn't take it. Those are the young and hungry guys who would jump at the chance to move up and once they are established then they would take the time off. Obviously a guy like The Miz is safe because he can fit anywhere but other guys would try to advance their position and try to come off as impressive to management. WWE would never have an off-season now because they make too much money running shows all year round. That is the nature of the business now. The off-season is a hypothetical, so in that hypothetical the young guys would be expecting an off season just like the top stars would. True, True. Offseason in terms of a word tho, obviously WWE wouldn't shut down operations for a few months. Offseason in general is just time off. I've seen people suggest, number of hours a month they could work in the ring and other things. I did like that someone suggested something like not having guys in ring at all times even if they have time off, you can have them do promos in that allotted "time off" if they aren't in the ring. |
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Post by Hit Girl on Dec 8, 2014 7:18:59 GMT -5
A phased roster will help, so that when a guy finishes a storyline and feud, they get a few months off and someone else gets the spot during their absence. It keeps things fresh, helps wrestlers recover, and prevents staleness and stagnation.
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Post by Sparvid on Dec 8, 2014 7:47:48 GMT -5
Vince needs to give himself an offseason. Reminds me of that time when WWE announced Vince's new contract or something and, as a public company, listed what it involved, including X amount of days of paid vacation which presumably is just in theory. |
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Post by Heinz Doofenschmirtz on Dec 8, 2014 9:57:34 GMT -5
Not just top stars but everyone. Give everyone at least two months a year off just for health reason, if they choose todo something else that is not wrestling related in that time, fine. Learn to write around these times and incorporate them into the stories. This would so easy to do. As long as you had everyone in place for the pre-Wrestlemania lead, it would do wonders for everyone. |
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Dec 8, 2014 12:01:27 GMT -5
Sadly it'll never happen as a company wide policy as the WWE's management see wrestlers as little more than horses or greyhounds, there to be worked until they're completely devalued or too injured to keep going. It doesn't matter that time off each year could add years to the careers of top guys, there's always someone in developmental ready to take their place.
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on Dec 8, 2014 12:23:41 GMT -5
I thinkt the best way is to give people the month off or two but still have them do Raw and PPV and nothing else - no promotiona appearences or house shows etc - working 5 days-ish for 2 months running wouldn't be so bad.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Dec 8, 2014 12:28:45 GMT -5
WWE needs a WCW schedule. TV and PPV with one house show a week. (2 if you split the rosters.)
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Dec 8, 2014 12:34:11 GMT -5
I thinkt the best way is to give people the month off or two but still have them do Raw and PPV and nothing else - no promotiona appearences or house shows etc - working 5 days-ish for 2 months running wouldn't be so bad. This actually seems like the best way to do it. You get guys more time to recuperate, without impacting the TV product. |
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Post by Reflecto on Dec 8, 2014 12:39:33 GMT -5
People are right to point this out, though: under the current business model, it kills guys financially to be off the road at all. Even top guys could be threatened so long as there's this "your spot isn't safe" mentality they use, and as long as they make these guys bank on royalty fees for merchandise and live gate bonuses. If an offseason is to be introduced, the whole business model needs to be changed, as well. This reason is why- vacation time needs to be added, but it should be in a modified form of a time bank like most other businesses would have: Everyone gets 2 months vacation time a year divided into its base form for shows- so, instead of a flat "you get two months off", it becomes "you get 24 house shows off and 18 TV tapings off a year". With that change, it dramatically lessens the issue for the wrestlers in full- if a wrestler isn't concerned about their spot, they can take two months off in full or a month at a time. If they're more concerned about their spot, they can merely take a week off now and then during the year and come back without much change to their spot. If they're a Cena-like workhorse, they can merely put it all together and say "I'm working every Raw, but I'm taking 18 Smackdown tapings off'. |
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Post by HMARK Center on Dec 8, 2014 13:23:40 GMT -5
One other thought: giving the roster a rotating schedule for most of the year would actually help to make Wrestlemania actually feel important, if you make it that the one time of the year that the entire roster will be on TV is from the Rumble through 'Mania.
Then you could actually market it: the one season of the year when all the wrestlers are around, competing, and vying for a spot on the biggest show of the year.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 8, 2014 13:50:56 GMT -5
One other thought: giving the roster a rotating schedule for most of the year would actually help to make Wrestlemania actually feel important, if you make it that the one time of the year that the entire roster will be on TV is from the Rumble through 'Mania. Then you could actually market it: the one season of the year when all the wrestlers are around, competing, and vying for a spot on the biggest show of the year. I like the idea. You can have your big cash cows who maybe disappeared at Survivor Series or TLC come back and announce that they are throwing their hat in for the Royal Rumble. It would gain a lot of intrigue to see who shows up as well as what storylines could be developed from that point on. The guys who have nothing going on for them come Wrestlemania could also use this time to take off and focus on other things. I do think Vince fears tho that if a guy gets an opportunity somewhere else he will bolt off. |
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Post by unc40 on Dec 8, 2014 15:46:53 GMT -5
It is a very grueling business and not just physically but mentally. These guys need to take some time off especially Cena who I can only remember missing one RAW the past couple of years.
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