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Post by tigermaskxxxvii on Dec 14, 2014 19:45:24 GMT -5
So this weekend ESPN premiered "The U Part 2" a follow up to the University of Miami documentary "The U". As a result ESPN aired "The U" a couple of times over the weekend to hype up its sequel/give people a chance to see the original doc to bring them up to speed. Anyways, while I was watching The U, there's a clip of a defensive tackle from Miami stopping a running back's forward progress, but he still slammed the guy to the ground after the play was whistled dead drawing a personal foul. On the replay one of the commentators says that the post whistle body slam looks like something you'd see on AWA Wrestling. It seemed kind of odd to hear someone use a pro wrestling analogy in a mainstream setting and use a pro wrestling organization other than the WWF/E used as the point of reference. Anyone hear a wrestling organization other than the WWF/E used as a point of reference in situations like this? I'm sure WCW was referenced when someone performed a wrestling type maneuver in a non-wrestling context during their height in the Monday Night War era. Also, local media outlets probably did this for the local territories. Anyone else can think of examples of this?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2014 19:58:01 GMT -5
That's kind of unbelievable, not that I don't believe you. It just blows my mind that anyone would reference AWA wrestling and they weren't even in Minnesota. I actually have never heard any mainstream recognition of any organization other than WWE, even during the period where WCW was on top. To me, it was extremely frustrating.
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Post by tigermaskxxxvii on Dec 14, 2014 20:20:20 GMT -5
That's kind of unbelievable, not that I don't believe you. It just blows my mind that anyone would reference AWA wrestling and they weren't even in Minnesota. I actually have never heard any mainstream recognition of any organization other than WWE, even during the period where WCW was on top. To me, it was extremely frustrating. My guess is the game was probably aired on ESPN, so maybe he did that to show some channel solidarity, or maybe the guy is from Minnesota and wanted to show some love for the promotion he grew up on. Even though the WWF putting on a better product and WCW eventually losing the plot ultimately led McMahon to victory in the Monday Night War. But I wonder if the WWF's Kleenex, Band-Aid, etc brand recognition helped them over take WCW. The Monday Night War got a lot of people into wrestling and many back into it and it wouldn't be crazy that they just tuned into the organization that was synonymous with pro wrestling in the 80's/early 90's. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2014 21:31:53 GMT -5
That's kind of unbelievable, not that I don't believe you. It just blows my mind that anyone would reference AWA wrestling and they weren't even in Minnesota. I actually have never heard any mainstream recognition of any organization other than WWE, even during the period where WCW was on top. To me, it was extremely frustrating. My guess is the game was probably aired on ESPN, so maybe he did that to show some channel solidarity, or maybe the guy is from Minnesota and wanted to show some love for the promotion he grew up on. Even though the WWF putting on a better product and WCW eventually losing the plot ultimately led McMahon to victory in the Monday Night War. But I wonder if the WWF's Kleenex, Band-Aid, etc brand recognition helped them over take WCW. The Monday Night War got a lot of people into wrestling and many back into it and it wouldn't be crazy that they just tuned into the organization that was synonymous with pro wrestling in the 80's/early 90's. No doubt. In the 80's, even those who knew nothing about wrestling had a vague idea of what Hulk Hogan, WrestleMania and WWF was. Mention any of those three terms, and people knew it was wrestling. To this day when the subject of pro wrestling comes up in the office where I work, the older and middle aged people still know it as the thing Hulk Hogan did or they mention "WWF" (not WWE). I had one person ask if they were still doing WrestleManias, but I've never ever ever known any non-fan who recognized the terms AWA, NWA or WCW. |
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Post by toodarkmark on Dec 19, 2014 8:33:51 GMT -5
AWA Wrestling was on ESPN at the time, so that's not surprise to me.
In the 90's I remember Stuart Scott mentioning WCW during a segment, and I knew WCW had passed WWF, at least temporarily. I think it was 97.
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Post by Danimal on Dec 19, 2014 12:07:07 GMT -5
That's kind of unbelievable, not that I don't believe you. It just blows my mind that anyone would reference AWA wrestling and they weren't even in Minnesota. I actually have never heard any mainstream recognition of any organization other than WWE, even during the period where WCW was on top. To me, it was extremely frustrating. My guess is the game was probably aired on ESPN, so maybe he did that to show some channel solidarity, or maybe the guy is from Minnesota and wanted to show some love for the promotion he grew up on. Even though the WWF putting on a better product and WCW eventually losing the plot ultimately led McMahon to victory in the Monday Night War. But I wonder if the WWF's Kleenex, Band-Aid, etc brand recognition helped them over take WCW. The Monday Night War got a lot of people into wrestling and many back into it and it wouldn't be crazy that they just tuned into the organization that was synonymous with pro wrestling in the 80's/early 90's. I'm not from Minnesota and I grew-up on AWA wrestling, plenty of Midwesterners did. I'd imagine the commentator was one of those people. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2014 2:40:37 GMT -5
In the '90s, this reference would have been "looks like something out of NWO wrestling!"
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Post by thegame415 on Dec 20, 2014 2:56:29 GMT -5
I always found it weird in Malcolm in the Middle's opening credits they have a clip of WCW.
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Post by thecrusherwi on Dec 20, 2014 9:46:36 GMT -5
John Madden used to make references to pro wrestling all the time, usually WWF, but he'd make comments much more in depth than just mentioning the promotion.
Two I remember specifically:
-In 1992 or 1993, he went in depth about old Packers Center (and current OL coach) James Campen saying his favorite athlete was The Undertaker. "Do you know who that is? He's a WWF wrestler. When your favorite athlete is The Undertaker you know you're a tough guy. I wouldn't want to get in a scuffle with a guy who idolizes The Undertaker."
-I was watching an old game recently from 1997 where there was a fight in a game and one of the players has a cast on. Madden says "This looks like a fight out of the WWF. Now Merton Hanks has a cast on. In the WWF they'd call that a foreign object. Sometimes when you have a fight like that, a guy will hide other foreign objects inside the cast, so you have to watch for that. I doubt Merton Hanks is doing that".
I miss Madden.
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Post by 06vwgti on Dec 20, 2014 16:58:33 GMT -5
Didn't espn classic also show old episodes of AWA?
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Post by tigermaskxxxvii on Dec 20, 2014 17:37:17 GMT -5
John Madden used to make references to pro wrestling all the time, usually WWF, but he'd make comments much more in depth than just mentioning the promotion. Two I remember specifically: -In 1992 or 1993, he went in depth about old Packers Center (and current OL coach) James Campen saying his favorite athlete was The Undertaker. "Do you know who that is? He's a WWF wrestler. When your favorite athlete is The Undertaker you know you're a tough guy. I wouldn't want to get in a scuffle with a guy who idolizes The Undertaker." -I was watching an old game recently from 1997 where there was a fight in a game and one of the players has a cast on. Madden says "This looks like a fight out of the WWF. Now Merton Hanks has a cast on. In the WWF they'd call that a foreign object. Sometimes when you have a fight like that, a guy will hide other foreign objects inside the cast, so you have to watch for that. I doubt Merton Hanks is doing that". I miss Madden. I love how Madden even over explains his pro wrestling analogies! |
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 21, 2014 11:48:56 GMT -5
Mystery Science Theater 3000 had Mike reference Verne Gagne once or twice.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2014 14:01:10 GMT -5
John Madden used to make references to pro wrestling all the time, usually WWF, but he'd make comments much more in depth than just mentioning the promotion. Two I remember specifically: -In 1992 or 1993, he went in depth about old Packers Center (and current OL coach) James Campen saying his favorite athlete was The Undertaker. "Do you know who that is? He's a WWF wrestler. When your favorite athlete is The Undertaker you know you're a tough guy. I wouldn't want to get in a scuffle with a guy who idolizes The Undertaker." -I was watching an old game recently from 1997 where there was a fight in a game and one of the players has a cast on. Madden says "This looks like a fight out of the WWF. Now Merton Hanks has a cast on. In the WWF they'd call that a foreign object. Sometimes when you have a fight like that, a guy will hide other foreign objects inside the cast, so you have to watch for that. I doubt Merton Hanks is doing that". I miss Madden. Me too, I wish Vince had brought Madden in for a WrestleMania. Have him commentate one of the lower card matches with Heenand and Gorilla. |
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Post by turkeysandwich on Dec 22, 2014 0:02:26 GMT -5
I wonder if the announcer the Op was talking about was Rod Trongard, who was "the voice of the AWA" for a long time and I believe used to do announcing for other ESPN sports.
I remember on Braves games on TBS in the 90's they'd reference WCW all the time, for obvious reasons, especially any time there was a brawl or a big argument. I even remember Joe Simpson dressing up like Ric Flair one time during a broadcast.
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