Perd
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Post by Perd on Dec 21, 2014 15:38:27 GMT -5
He should return dressed like Mrs Doubtfire and be called the Vigil-Auntie. Or make him the Veggielante. Don't even think about stealing from his garden.
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Post by Hit Girl on Dec 21, 2014 15:44:09 GMT -5
He needs to dye his hair and get rid of that awful soul patch. Looks awful. For attire, they should let him wear a long sleeved t-shirt with a flak jacket like Reigns wears. Some leather trousers would finish the attire. If he wrestles in tights and a t-shirt, he'll look awful.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2014 17:57:04 GMT -5
He's had ONE appearance. Give it a chance! I feel like they didn't even give me a chance to give it a chance. Having no follow up was just really weird. If they do follow up later on, it'll be even weirder because I can't see a reason for waiting, unless they're trying to give Sting a mystique... Dammit, that is what they're doing. Carry on.
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Post by Hit Girl on Dec 21, 2014 18:06:20 GMT -5
He should interfere at the Royal Rumble, preventing Cena from winning the title.
Cena is about to hit Lesnar with the Attitude Adjustment, but the lights go out. When they come back on, the ref is knocked out. The lights go off again, then they come back on, but Sting is standing behind Cena and hits him with the death drop. Lesnar pins Cena and wins.
His explanation is that he simply breaks the establishment. The Authority needed to be brought down. Cena has been the top star for so long, he needed to be brought down too.
He then becomes the leader of a new faction inside WWE. A cross between the Nexus and Raven's Flock. He recruits members of the roster to join the group, mostly underused guys who need a fresh gimmick or angle. They disrupt WWE programming and events from time to time. No one ever knows where they will strike or against who.
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Post by babyfootball on Dec 21, 2014 19:19:27 GMT -5
Yeah it's anti-climactic, that's because the climax is a long way off. Relax. We're not even into the new year yet. Booking has been like this for YEARS, you can't build a show around a guy who's not there, and Sting didn't sign on to be a full-time member of the roster or even an active wrestler for all we know (outside of WrestleMania). I'm not saying there's a guarantee that whatever the big payoff is to his return will end up being awesome. If it's vs. HHH, the angle, match or both could wind up stinking to high heaven. I mean, his return seems like it writes itself and should be exceedingly difficult to completely screw up, but who knows? For my money, his debut was pretty cool as an introduction, but there's still a whole story to be told yet (hopefully).
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 21, 2014 19:26:19 GMT -5
He's had ONE appearance. Give it a chance! I feel like they didn't even give me a chance to give it a chance. Having no follow up was just really weird. If they do follow up later on, it'll be even weirder because I can't see a reason for waiting, unless they're trying to give Sting a mystique... Dammit, that is what they're doing. Carry on. Exactly, the ONE appearance is pretty well the crux of my argument. That's exactly what I'm saying. How can anyone get excited one dude showed up once with no follow-up at all yet?
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Post by The Tee Why on Dec 21, 2014 19:38:42 GMT -5
He needs to dye his hair and get rid of that awful soul patch. Looks awful. For attire, they should let him wear a long sleeved t-shirt with a flak jacket like Reigns wears. Some leather trousers would finish the attire. If he wrestles in tights and a t-shirt, he'll look awful. Yeh I highly doubt theyre gonna be okay with him wrestling in a T Shirt man. Unless they think "well if its a cut off T Shirt it's close enough to his starrcade attire right?" someone smack me!!!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2014 19:46:10 GMT -5
I liked how it was supposed to be the biggest most shocking thing in the world, and yet JBL was ready enough to give everyone a quick Wikipedia rundown of Sting's accomplishments within seconds of seeing him.
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Post by schma on Dec 21, 2014 19:48:14 GMT -5
I liked how it was supposed to be the biggest most shocking thing in the world, and yet JBL was ready enough to give everyone a quick Wikipedia rundown of Sting's accomplishments within seconds of seeing him. To me that came off as JBL being a fan of a legend's work. Few will ever argue Sting hasn't had a hell of a career. I expect a decent chunk of the dressing room were squeeing over him being there.
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Post by Ashy Larry on Dec 21, 2014 19:55:57 GMT -5
He needs to dye his hair and get rid of that awful soul patch. Looks awful. For attire, they should let him wear a long sleeved t-shirt with a flak jacket like Reigns wears. Some leather trousers would finish the attire. If he wrestles in tights and a t-shirt, he'll look awful. Just have him wear his full body Starrcade 1997 singlet, alter the colors like his old WCW figures.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Dec 21, 2014 19:58:47 GMT -5
For me, it now all rides on his next appearance. I was convinced that with his first appearance if it even happened at all they'd blow it, and they didn't. He blew the roof off the place, did something important and looked great doing it. Now I want to see what happens next.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Dec 21, 2014 20:04:53 GMT -5
The problem with the "slow build" argument is that WWE doesn't do slow builds; they do things, and then pay vague occasional lipservice to them in the following MONTHS where everyone proceeds as normal. They trot out Heyman every couple weeks to remind people that Brock has the title, and it's not a slow build toward his next match or trying to make the title more prestigious by not having the champion wrestle all the time. It's just the decision to not write stories about the title for a few months at a time. Rock/Cena didn't have a year of build-up, it had the initial challenge and then was largely forgotten about, save for the tag match, until Mania season. This is the same way. They only mention it on commentary during matches that distract from what was going on and kinda bury Ziggler by pretending he was doomed before Sting showed up.
He could have pretaped a promo on Sunday that aired to cut off the Authority's dethroning the night after where he explained why he did what he did, why he's in WWE now. They could have given him a mouthpiece or a representative, or even a small couple underlings like Hit Girl suggested. They could show someone trying to figure out what's going on, or have segments where they send a camera crew to look for Sting but they can't find him. But no, everyone is just kind of moving on. "Sting came and did a thing. Neat. Here's a tag match." The Authority's dissolution hasn't brought anything except guest GMs and Seth Rollins no longer having the company behind him, and the absolute lack of change made by Sting's appearance just further undercuts the impact of it all.
That just isn't how a slow build works, and it's not how you build mystique. It's just kinda disappointing, and reflects the writing philosophy of "big things can just pop up when it's time to, and be largely forgotten at any other moment". It's bad writing.
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Post by Essential1 on Dec 21, 2014 20:08:48 GMT -5
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Post by Juice on Dec 21, 2014 21:36:31 GMT -5
This is honestly exactly how I would have done it myself. There's still intrigue and anyone who no longer has any interest probably didn't have much to begin with. Sting showed up and killed the authority. So, baring an explanation (why are we owed one anyway?) he has no reason to be there. The bad guys were punished.
IF Sting is to be this "Vigilante" than there needs to be a villainous person or group worthy of his ire. Right now we are still in happy times, the good guys won and we have to sit through guests hosts and junk.
Now, once the time comes for Sting to return I wouldn't have it on Raw at all. I would leave clues about his return. Not hidden JJ Abrams ones, but obvious "Oh Shit Stings around. Surely he will be at the next ppv" type stuff.
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Post by benstudd on Dec 21, 2014 22:37:08 GMT -5
He should interfere at the Royal Rumble, preventing Cena from winning the title. Cena is about to hit Lesnar with the Attitude Adjustment, but the lights go out. When they come back on, the ref is knocked out. The lights go off again, then they come back on, but Sting is standing behind Cena and hits him with the death drop. Lesnar pins Cena and wins. His explanation is that he simply breaks the establishment. The Authority needed to be brought down. Cena has been the top star for so long, he needed to be brought down too. He then becomes the leader of a new faction inside WWE. A cross between the Nexus and Raven's Flock. He recruits members of the roster to join the group, mostly underused guys who need a fresh gimmick or angle. They disrupt WWE programming and events from time to time. No one ever knows where they will strike or against who. You know these guys by now. You think they are gonna do that? They'll never want their golden boy to be associated with the establishment. Also Sting is even less than part-time, he'll never be on TV on a regular basis with his new group. Wishful thinking, all of this would be nice to see but probably won't happen. Would be great to set up a Cena heel turn, though: Cena vs Sting at Mania. Near the end of the match, given he has the power to do so, he brings back the Authority and they help him to defeat Sting. And for the cherry on the cake, Flair is with the Authority just to enjoy the moment cause he loves screwing up with Sting.
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Post by mcstoklasa on Dec 22, 2014 7:35:01 GMT -5
{Spoiler}http://www.inquisitr.com/1695172/wwe-news-the-vigilante-sting-set-to-return-at-wwe-royal-rumble/
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2014 9:03:06 GMT -5
I liked how it was supposed to be the biggest most shocking thing in the world, and yet JBL was ready enough to give everyone a quick Wikipedia rundown of Sting's accomplishments within seconds of seeing him. To me that came off as JBL being a fan of a legend's work. Few will ever argue Sting hasn't had a hell of a career. I expect a decent chunk of the dressing room were squeeing over him being there. Sure, but if Sting's appearance was supposed to be unexpected and shocking, why was JBL able to spew his Wikipedia facts within seconds rather than going crazy like everyone else was? I'm not blaming him as I'm sure it was Vince in his ear telling him to say that, but stuff like that takes steam away from a big debut/return. I guess they have no choice though as Cole's "Oh My" will be used as nauseum for everything, and that alone is cringe worthy since his delivery always comes off forced. Everything that comes after Cole's initial reaction is just adding on to the garbage announcing.
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Post by xCompackx on Dec 22, 2014 9:06:45 GMT -5
This is honestly exactly how I would have done it myself. There's still intrigue and anyone who no longer has any interest probably didn't have much to begin with. Sting showed up and killed the authority. So, baring an explanation (why are we owed one anyway?) he has no reason to be there. The bad guys were punished. IF Sting is to be this "Vigilante" than there needs to be a villainous person or group worthy of his ire. Right now we are still in happy times, the good guys won and we have to sit through guests hosts and junk. Now, once the time comes for Sting to return I wouldn't have it on Raw at all. I would leave clues about his return. Not hidden JJ Abrams ones, but obvious "Oh Shit Stings around. Surely he will be at the next ppv" type stuff. There should always be an explanation when something monumental happens, especially if you're going to be a part-timer. It's fine that Sting isn't on Raw every week (and I agree that it'd kill his character if he was), but you can't just have things happen for the sake of it. I get that most people know at least who Sting is, but aside from the fact he's never been in a WWE ring before, what's the point of caring long-term if they present him as just a guy that helps faces win? No storytelling is worse than bad storytelling.
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Post by wahoowah11 on Dec 22, 2014 9:32:42 GMT -5
I loved it and its going to be a slow build, which I am ok with. You cant have him show up every week and then he becomes another guy.
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Post by kidglov3s on Dec 22, 2014 9:55:44 GMT -5
Of course it's anti-climactic! Sting is here to straighten out WWE like he straightened out Regal at Bash 96!
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