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Post by jetsonic on Dec 21, 2014 17:35:10 GMT -5
So I'm going through 2008 PPVs on the WWE Network and after watching Hunter bury Jeff Hardy in the Elimination Chamber Match and Orton retain against Cena who agrees with me it would have been a more epic Wrestlemania match with Jeff Hardy trying to get the WWE Title off John Cena?
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Post by RIHT on Dec 21, 2014 17:38:34 GMT -5
There were big plans for Hardy at WM 24, like winning MITB, but he got a wellness suspension and then the whole back and forth on deciding whether he was ready or not ensued. Yeah, WWE was fickle, but he really screwed up too many times and never really became the main eventer he could have been.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Dec 21, 2014 17:48:11 GMT -5
First thing first... How the hell was Jeff Hardy buried in that match? He kicked out of the damn Pedigree, and it took another one on a chair for him to finally be defeated. I can get not liking that Triple H won/Hardy lost, but let's be realistic here.
In relation to your hypothetical, it could have very well been a great face/"face" match between arguably the two most over guys in the company. Of course, Hardy would end up having a Wellness suspension just before, so it would have been a right royal f***up had the No. 1 Contender gone down just weeks before the biggest show of the year.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Dec 21, 2014 17:53:28 GMT -5
First thing first... How the hell was Jeff Hardy buried in that match? He kicked out of the damn Pedigree, and it took another one on a chair for him to finally be defeated. I can get not liking that Triple H won/Hardy lost, but let's be realistic here. Yeah, and I've got to say it, everyone in that match looked good. |
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Post by Curt Hawkins Fan on Dec 21, 2014 18:32:25 GMT -5
I believe had Hardy stayed and had controlled his drug issues, Cena wouldn't be in the same position.
Hardy is the only person to get as over as Cena during Cenas reign. He was sooooo hot with the crowd and that Orton fued during Dec/January is one of my favorite fueds of all time.
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Post by fw91 on Dec 21, 2014 18:34:04 GMT -5
should have been the mania 25 main event. Hardy was over, but not main event ready yet in early 08, plus the wellness suspension.
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Post by "Gentleman" AJ Powell on Dec 21, 2014 18:53:43 GMT -5
First thing first... How the hell was Jeff Hardy buried in that match? He kicked out of the damn Pedigree, and it took another one on a chair for him to finally be defeated. I can get not liking that Triple H won/Hardy lost, but let's be realistic here. In relation to your hypothetical, it could have very well been a great face/"face" match between arguably the two most over guys in the company. Of course, Hardy would end up having a Wellness suspension just before, so it would have been a right royal f***up had the No. 1 Contender gone down just weeks before the biggest show of the year. For a lot of people, simply losing a match, no matter how clean, is being buried. Especially when it comes to HHH. Means the term has lost a lot of effect and doesn't seem as effective if someone's actually being buried. |
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Post by Professor Chaos on Dec 21, 2014 19:06:13 GMT -5
I believe had Hardy stayed and had controlled his drug issues, Cena wouldn't be in the same position. Hardy is the only person to get as over as Cena during Cenas reign. He was sooooo hot with the crowd and that Orton fued during Dec/January is one of my favorite fueds of all time. It's mind boggling how TNA F'd that up so badly. They got him when he was still over as hell. |
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Dec 21, 2014 19:15:34 GMT -5
I believe had Hardy stayed and had controlled his drug issues, Cena wouldn't be in the same position. Hardy is the only person to get as over as Cena during Cenas reign. He was sooooo hot with the crowd and that Orton fued during Dec/January is one of my favorite fueds of all time. It's mind boggling how TNA F'd that up so badly. They got him when he was still over as hell. Yeah because it wasn't like he was on trial for drugs possessions and trafficing or the fact he was high as a kite half the time he came into TNA. Yeah that looks good for a public image yet they still made the guy World Champion and look how great that turned out AKA Turning Point 2011 yeah if it was the Hardy we have now in 2010 YES it TNA would been foolish too not have him as there guy. The only guy who messed anything up was Jeff himself. He left on his own terms in the WWE when he was peaking in popularity. To get arrested a months later. TNA still signed the guy but as popular he may been would you make him champion knowing at the time he could been put in prison for a long time? Lucky that wasn't the kind of punishment he ended up with but he would have and nobody knew it because the trial itself kept getting delayed. |
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Post by Professor Chaos on Dec 21, 2014 19:38:25 GMT -5
It's mind boggling how TNA F'd that up so badly. They got him when he was still over as hell. Yeah because it wasn't like he was on trial for drugs possessions and trafficing or the fact he was high as a kite half the time he came into TNA. Yeah that looks good for a public image yet they still made the guy World Champion and look how great that turned out AKA Turning Point 2011 yeah if it was the Hardy we have now in 2010 YES it TNA would been foolish too not have him as there guy. The only guy who messed anything up was Jeff himself. He left on his own terms in the WWE when he was peaking in popularity. To get arrested a months later. TNA still signed the guy but as popular he may been would you make him champion knowing at the time he could been put in prison for a long time? Lucky that wasn't the kind of punishment he ended up with but he would have and nobody knew it because the trial itself kept getting delayed.  |
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Post by BRV on Dec 21, 2014 19:50:47 GMT -5
In early 2008, WWE stuck a rocket to Jeff Hardy's ass and shot him to the moon. He had a WWE Championship match at Royal Rumble, he had that insane Whisper in the Wind off the cage onto Umaga that they tried to push as this generation's Superfly Snuka splash, he did the 20-foot-high Swanton off of the old Raw set onto Randy Orton, he pinned Shawn Michaels clean, and he was likely to be the winner of Money in the Bank at WrestleMania XXIV.
He didn't get buried, he f***ed it up himself. In terms of how hard they're pushing you on screen, the only comparable wellness violation f*** up was Jack Swagger's arrest in 2013 in the weeks leading up to his World Heavyweight Championship match at WrestleMania 29.
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Post by schma on Dec 21, 2014 19:52:49 GMT -5
Admittedly during his run in the Hardy Boyz I thought he was awesome. Even after they split I still really enjoyed him. Then I started to hear some of his promos and they were just bad. If felt like he was simply reading a new article while telling Randy Orton he wanted to hurt him. The guy was a fantastic performer when it came to the wrestling and the moves but I don't recall enjoying any of his promos where he was supposed to be anything other than a cool guy who isn't that worked up about anything.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Dec 21, 2014 20:10:04 GMT -5
I was at No Way Out, and everybody in that arena really wanted Jeff to win that Chamber match. In a match with the likes of Shawn Michaels and Chris Jericho, Jeff was the crowd favorite by a mile.
Of course, it turned out to be very fortunate that he did not win. It was easier to write out someone in Money in the Bank, as opposed to a participant in the WWE title match.
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