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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Jan 3, 2015 6:52:07 GMT -5
It fit for Nash and Hall as well, seeing as they kept it for the remainder of his tenure, but seeing Luger or Sting come out to it was wrong, not to mention in the post-Fingerpoke nWo when you had Hogan himself using the Wolfpac theme. The opening howl was a genius touch, as it's up there with Glass Shattering in terms of generating that initial pop. I actually tend to think of it as Nash's definitive theme for me, even moreso than the Diesel one. I got into wrestling and WCW in particular as the unified nWo was fizzling out, so it's the same way for me. |
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Post by TGM on Jan 3, 2015 7:58:49 GMT -5
It should have ended in late 98 with a Wolfpac vs Hollywood Wargames match. A Scott Steiner led NWO would have been pretty good, seeing as Scott was still pretty mobile.
Wolfpac victory could have kept them as faces because I'm guessing they were big merchandise sellers.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 3, 2015 8:13:31 GMT -5
It should have ended in late 98 with a Wolfpac vs Hollywood Wargames match. A Scott Steiner led NWO would have been pretty good, seeing as Scott was still pretty mobile. Wolfpac victory could have kept them as faces because I'm guessing they were big merchandise sellers. Probably, I remember seeing a lot of Wolfpac shirts. |
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Post by TGM on Jan 3, 2015 8:39:33 GMT -5
It should have ended in late 98 with a Wolfpac vs Hollywood Wargames match. A Scott Steiner led NWO would have been pretty good, seeing as Scott was still pretty mobile. Wolfpac victory could have kept them as faces because I'm guessing they were big merchandise sellers. Probably, I remember seeing a lot of Wolfpac shirts. It sounds stupid to say today, but after Goldberg and during Stings absence, Nash was probably the most popular man on the roster. |
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Jan 3, 2015 10:03:06 GMT -5
I won't say the Wolfpac because they were super over. I always point to the Fingerpoke. you could almost hear the audience audibly groan.
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Post by HMARK Center on Jan 3, 2015 12:55:08 GMT -5
I won't say the Wolfpac because they were super over. I always point to the Fingerpoke. you could almost hear the audience audibly groan. Indeed; the weird part for me is that I only got back into watching wrestling full time in early 1998, so by the time of the Fingerpoke I was actually pretty excited about the nWo reuniting (I hated the Wolfpac)...but for anybody who had been around since Bash at the Beach '96, it had to be excruciating. |
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Jan 3, 2015 13:59:34 GMT -5
I felt then and still believe it should've just been Hogan, Hall, and Nash. The fact that those three caused enough chaos, division, and confusion without the strength in numbers gave them that ultimate renegade mystique.
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Post by agent817 on Jan 3, 2015 14:15:39 GMT -5
Does anybody remember how there was "NWO Japan"? I only remember Masahiro Chono and Great Muta appearing on WCW programming. I actually wonder if Big Titan ever appeared, being that he was the "Fake" Razor Ramon, while the "Real" Razor Ramon was in the NWO as well.
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Jan 3, 2015 16:52:23 GMT -5
Does anybody remember how there was "NWO Japan"? I only remember Masahiro Chono and Great Muta appearing on WCW programming. I actually wonder if Big Titan ever appeared, being that he was the "Fake" Razor Ramon, while the "Real" Razor Ramon was in the NWO as well. Yes, in New Japan, it was called nWo Typhoon, and it was quite a darn good stable. Some of the U.S. members like Buff Bagwell, VK Wallstreet, the fake Sting and Scott Norton also wrestled with them. |
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Post by agent817 on Jan 5, 2015 20:09:47 GMT -5
Okay, I just remembered how in 1998, there was an angle involved of Kevin Nash trying to recruit DDP into the Wolfpac. Same with wanting to recruit Goldberg in that stable as well. In the end, I'm glad that it didn't happen for both wrestlers, both kayfabe-wise and creative-wise. The reason being that there wouldn't be any top faces who would represent WCW, especially with Sting and Lex Luger being in the Wolfpac at that point.
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Post by ICBM on Jan 5, 2015 20:40:01 GMT -5
Okay, I just remembered how in 1998, there was an angle involved of Kevin Nash trying to recruit DDP into the Wolfpac. Same with wanting to recruit Goldberg in that stable as well. In the end, I'm glad that it didn't happen for both wrestlers, both kayfabe-wise and creative-wise. The reason being that there wouldn't be any top faces who would represent WCW, especially with Sting and Lex Luger being in the Wolfpac at that point. Can't remember where I read it, but I recall something about Hogan wanting to go with wolfpack bc of how over they were and leave bret in NWO black and white for their planned feud. It got scrapped like a lot of ideas. Supposedly the Hogan/Hart feud was going to happen again later in summer 99 but Hogan blew his knee and then Bret lost Owen mid-Goldberg angle. As to the OP question; I'd say spring 99. The merger didn't pop like they hoped. They started letting it die but guys likeNash still repped the gear bc it sold. The NWO B team was simply horrible. Horace Hogan as talented as he was, wouldn't draw gnats in Georgia. Norton could have as an ass whooping badass. Seriously why he didn't get put in with the west Texas rednecks as a drunken brawler I have no idea. Vincent...yeah he was still just Vincent. Anyway spring 99 |
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Post by Sickness Rising on Jan 5, 2015 21:50:51 GMT -5
How long until we're having this conversation about the Bullet Club?
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Jan 5, 2015 22:01:45 GMT -5
How long until we're having this conversation about the Bullet Club? It only formed in 2013. Sure, it has a lot of members, but CHOAS has had like twenty different wrestlers in it's duration. |
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Post by somsta on Jan 6, 2015 22:17:57 GMT -5
When Scott Hall's big surprise was failed WWF champion Diesel. The whole angle was DOA at that point.
If not then, when Heenan killed the whole angle by spoiling the Hogan turn at the Bash.
Or the Fingerpoke.
Of course the whole group was redeemed when it was Jeff Jarrett and the Harris Boys.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2015 23:05:47 GMT -5
Hmmm...I would say around late 1997 is where I thought the NWO was getting ridiculous, especially when you had people that never stepped foot in the WWF join the NWO(Buff Bagwell I am looking at you). I also did not like it that Sting joined the Wolfpack. What should have happened is that Sting, along with guys like Arn Anderson form a pack to regain WCW from the likes of the NWO.
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