BigWill
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Post by BigWill on Jan 3, 2015 7:33:08 GMT -5
It would go the way of roller derby. A couple of small shows here and there but nothing like how it used to be. Disney nor any other conglomerate would f*** with pro wrestling because if the industry leader went down, that whole genre is finished. The vacuum would create a black hole that won't be worth the time and money to fill. A lot of companies won't have the time nor patience to wait for stability and profit. Exactly. If Vince McMahon himself couldn't make pro wrestling work, why would Disney, a multi-billion dollar company, waste their time and money in such a gamble investment?
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Post by Next Level was WRONG on Jan 3, 2015 9:18:06 GMT -5
I'd be eternally dissapointed I never got to see English and Gotch break-up and have a feud that was just the exact plot of The Prestige.
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thecrusherwi
El Dandy
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Post by thecrusherwi on Jan 3, 2015 10:21:36 GMT -5
The Death of the WWE will be the death of Mainstream wrestling in the US and the beginning of the end of wrestling as an entertainment medium in the US. You can't have a scenario like this where WWE just vanishes and everything else is fine. If the WWE disappears, it would mean that the conditions (cultural, economic, whatever) that destroyed WWE would be so bad for wrestling that likely all of the promotions and organizations mentioned here would be gone long before the 'E. If something the size of WWE collapsed, who in their right mind would ever put serious money into wrestling ever again? And step out of the wrestling bubble and think for a second just how goofy wrestling is in the first place. In the internet age, where we are allowed to peak around the curtain of almost everything, why would something resembling wrestling ever be started again? I don't think a new version of worked sports would succeed debuting today.
Like it or not, if you want wrestling to be around, the WWE has to continue to be successful and we can hope some others can follow in their path too. If WWE ever goes down, it will take all of wrestling with it.
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nisidhe
Hank Scorpio
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Post by nisidhe on Jan 3, 2015 11:23:49 GMT -5
The Death of the WWE will be the death of Mainstream wrestling in the US and the beginning of the end of wrestling as an entertainment medium in the US. You can't have a scenario like this where WWE just vanishes and everything else is fine. If the WWE disappears, it would mean that the conditions (cultural, economic, whatever) that destroyed WWE would be so bad for wrestling that likely all of the promotions and organizations mentioned here would be gone long before the 'E. If something the size of WWE collapsed, who in their right mind would ever put serious money into wrestling ever again? And step out of the wrestling bubble and think for a second just how goofy wrestling is in the first place. In the internet age, where we are allowed to peak around the curtain of almost everything, why would something resembling wrestling ever be started again? I don't think a new version of worked sports would succeed debuting today. Like it or not, if you want wrestling to be around, the WWE has to continue to be successful and we can hope some others can follow in their path too. If WWE ever goes down, it will take all of wrestling with it. There are companies who, though not American, would be more than willing to tap into the North American market but for the lack of urgency created by the presence of WWE. AAA in Mexico and NJPW in Japan would certainly be able to throw together TV programming with decent commentators and get it on the air within a week of WWE going under. Why? Because they're already doing it for their domestic audiences and have the resources to translate into English quickly and well if they need to. There may be some growing pains as some smaller promotions start seeing their audiences increase several-fold and come under pressure to put together a TV spot. There would also be a huge opportunity for smaller promotions working the same area to merge together and make it all work for them. I'd almost say we'll have the Territory era again if that were the case. The less ethical promotions (those relying on unpaid and/or untrained talent) will likely disappear completely or go back into the backyards. If WWE were to collapse or, more likely, simply pull out of its wrestling operations in favour of its film division, it will hurt the business overall - for a while. However, it won't kill it completely. In a 500-channel TV universe, there will always be room for wrestling and the channel that includes it will guarantee itself an audience. Wrestling is by no means dead.
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thecrusherwi
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Post by thecrusherwi on Jan 3, 2015 12:13:29 GMT -5
The Death of the WWE will be the death of Mainstream wrestling in the US and the beginning of the end of wrestling as an entertainment medium in the US. You can't have a scenario like this where WWE just vanishes and everything else is fine. If the WWE disappears, it would mean that the conditions (cultural, economic, whatever) that destroyed WWE would be so bad for wrestling that likely all of the promotions and organizations mentioned here would be gone long before the 'E. If something the size of WWE collapsed, who in their right mind would ever put serious money into wrestling ever again? And step out of the wrestling bubble and think for a second just how goofy wrestling is in the first place. In the internet age, where we are allowed to peak around the curtain of almost everything, why would something resembling wrestling ever be started again? I don't think a new version of worked sports would succeed debuting today. Like it or not, if you want wrestling to be around, the WWE has to continue to be successful and we can hope some others can follow in their path too. If WWE ever goes down, it will take all of wrestling with it. There are companies who, though not American, would be more than willing to tap into the North American market but for the lack of urgency created by the presence of WWE. AAA in Mexico and NJPW in Japan would certainly be able to throw together TV programming with decent commentators and get it on the air within a week of WWE going under. Why? Because they're already doing it for their domestic audiences and have the resources to translate into English quickly and well if they need to. There may be some growing pains as some smaller promotions start seeing their audiences increase several-fold and come under pressure to put together a TV spot. There would also be a huge opportunity for smaller promotions working the same area to merge together and make it all work for them. I'd almost say we'll have the Territory era again if that were the case. The less ethical promotions (those relying on unpaid and/or untrained talent) will likely disappear completely or go back into the backyards. If WWE were to collapse or, more likely, simply pull out of its wrestling operations in favour of its film division, it will hurt the business overall - for a while. However, it won't kill it completely. In a 500-channel TV universe, there will always be room for wrestling and the channel that includes it will guarantee itself an audience. Wrestling is by no means dead. But why? Why would any of those companies do that? Why would any TV channel do that? My main point is I don't think the premise of WWE collapsing but not by a "lack of popularity or something like that though" is even possible. If WWE collapses, they are going to effectively kill the TV demand for wrestling. Most of the TV audience is not like us. They watch Raw as something to watch. If WWE stopped showing Raw, they'd think "Aw man that sucks" then watch something else on Monday Nights. By two months later, they'd never think about it again. There won't be a valuable consumer base to steal by another company unless AAA or New Japan gets on USA on Monday Nights at 8 ET. Even if they did THAT, it might not matter. Case in point, the final week of the Monday Night Wars, Raw and Nitro combined to get a 7.7 rating (Raw 4.7, Nitro 3.0). The following week, Raw got a 5.7 (Mania post show) and it's never been that high again. 2 million people who normally watched Nitro, never came back, despite other AMERICAN wrestling being on 2 channels over at the exact same time on the exact same night. You think the Raw audience is going to move to a different channel on a different night to watch a bunch of no names from overseas? No chance. And if WWE's decline is a slow decline in quality, the bulk of the consumers will not think "WWE sucks, I wish another company would come along and give us good wrestling.", they'll think "wrestling sucks" and won't even want to give a chance to a new company. They'll associate it with WWE's poor product. The real American market for a WWE replacement is not Raw's audience. It's a fraction of the WWE Network's subscriber base. The hardcore wrestling fans. If you take a half of their subscriber base, it's less than the number that watches Cops reruns. It's not worth the trouble or the money for any foreign company or TV network to attract them.
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