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Post by CeilingFan on Jan 6, 2015 10:39:12 GMT -5
Royal Rumble should win it.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jan 6, 2015 10:42:59 GMT -5
In 2000, David Arquette winning the world title won. It only won by one or two votes over May Young gives birth to a hand. Today, Arqutte winning the world title is the most talked about wrestlecrap of all time. Good thing I voted for Arquette title win or May Young birth would have won. Some of the pass winners won just for smarks to bitch about something then forget about it the next year. Look at the winner of 2008, Mike Adamle's stint in the WWE. Today, do people really remember that or think it was that awful? Also, look at 2010, this one really annoyed me that it won. TNA's Monday Night War, TNA tried something and it did not work out. I can't understand how that is consider wrestlecrap. It was not an angle or a gimmick, it was just a failed attempted. 2006 was also a year that was smark rage. Eddie Guerrero dieing and the WWE trying to milk his death for every penny they can get out of it was wrong. However, I feel it was an unmoral thing to do but not wrestlecrap. Wrestlecrap should be about the fun times with bad angles not something dark like this. I always thought wrestlecrap was like an Ed Wood movie, it is so bad that it is good and fun to talk about. WWE handling Eddies death is not fun to talk about or look back on. Bella vs Bella will win this year. I think that is an okay winner. Yes, people still remember and mock Adamle for his stint in the WWE. Hell the WWE itself still does a few weeks ago they had an internet show where they played his Jeff Harvey gaffe when pointing out that Jeff Hardy did have some jobber matches as Jeff Harvey. And while I personally don't like non-kayfabe stuff getting an "award" like this The Monday Night Wars was wrestlecrap because no on in their right mind thought it was a good idea and they hyped it like crazy on their show... despite the fact that their main show was getting consistently beaten in the ratings by WWE's C-show.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jan 6, 2015 11:34:19 GMT -5
Is there really much they can say about the whole brass ring stuff? Yeah, it's pretty ridiculous that Vince can think that his roster is full of millennials that have no drive, or that the formerly super-over Cesaro is too Swiss to connect with the audience, but how do you make a full Induction out of that? There's one huge problem with that, it's not an angle or story. How do you give a nomination to something that isn't an angle, story, gimmick, or part of the show?
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Post by TOK Hehe'd Around & Found Out on Jan 6, 2015 11:59:37 GMT -5
I'd go with the Bella angle, because it best fits the definition of Wrestlecrap. The other WWE choices were just plain shitty booking, and the first half of the year from TNA shouldn't even count.
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Post by legendkiller1985 on Jan 6, 2015 12:39:28 GMT -5
Bella v. Bella should win. The Royal Rumble was pretty bad, but in hindsight it worked out in the end.
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Post by Giul T. on Jan 6, 2015 13:25:43 GMT -5
Judging by the polls the Bella Feud's going to win, but has any of these polls ever been hacked? I've had some problems with pollsites before.
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Post by lemonyellowson on Jan 6, 2015 15:41:46 GMT -5
had to go for the rumble booking - willow would be a close second though.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jan 6, 2015 15:50:35 GMT -5
At least the second year running that the nominations have been complete bullshit.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2015 16:59:04 GMT -5
Problem is though, and maybe it's my bad memory, but is there really any "classic wrestlecrap" in terms of complete, off the wire, top to bottom storylines? Both TNA and WWE have been peppering us for a while with one and done acts of stupidity without completely going all in. Willow and Bellas are the closest thing to memory, but the Bellas angle just dropped like a rock, and Willow amounted to Kurt going "C'mon, stop it" and it was over. There aren't any sagas anymore like there used to be. Daniel Bryan's irrational fear of Kane was headed in that direction but his injury cut it off. Don't get me wrong a lot of these options aren't good and are just there to pad numbers. Maybe I'm forgetting stuff.
For me, the guest hosts, the Royal Rumble, the Bellas and Willow would have been enough. The Menagerie are almost contenders but TNA never really did anything with them.
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Post by metylerca on Jan 6, 2015 22:07:12 GMT -5
The heart of WrestleCrap is lost in these noms. Where's the funny undertones of these? The Rumble was depressing. When I think WrestleCrap, I think Willow with his umbrella that TNA has on sale. I think of Bella v.s. Bella, where Brie and Nikki were best friends again because... time? Subjective booking frustrations shouldn't have a place in the Gooker voting. TNA 2014 deserves it, though. Hilarity.
I voted Bella v.s. Bella.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jan 6, 2015 22:12:48 GMT -5
The Fandango love triangle gave us this
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Post by chazraps on Jan 6, 2015 22:34:59 GMT -5
Didn't there used to be a distinction between "Wrestlecrap" and "bad booking?" I mean, there's been wrestlecrap that's been badly booked, and there's been bad booking around Wrestlecrap, but I thought the rule was bad booking in and of itself isn't Wrestlecrap?
Like, I'll defend the 2010 Monday Night Wars from TNA as Wrestlecrap because those episodes were a series of Wrestlecrap trump Cards. Pretty much every segment on its own could warrant an induction and all of them together makes for an exception. Same goes with badly worked matches not being Wrestlecrap but that Jackie Gayda match is just on another level to where it becomes on.
Same goes for Eddiesploitation in 2006. Yes, it wasn't fun and really depressing, but let's say Eddie was still alive and the exact same things we saw on-screen transpired. It would have all been Wrestlecrap. Having it happen in wake of Eddie's death just makes it darker and all the worse. Depressing as it is ("Viva La Savings" being particularly evil) it has to count.
But this year's? I mean, the Royal Rumble was a poor choice of a winner, but it's not like any storyline going into it or victorious character (in this case, Batista) was Wrestlecrap-esqe. The brass rings nomination isn't even something we see on WWE programming. You might as well nominate things wrestlers did on the way to the arena.
The Menagie's debut was one of the Wrestlecrappiest moments of the year for sure, but they've evolved into a fine stable. Adam Rose and the bunny is still on-going and might actually be salvageable, so in keeping with the site's rules, I wouldn't call it Wrestlecrap yet.
Bellas makes sense for a nomination as it was an illogical story that lead to bad acting, non-sensical turns, and ultimately no change from how they were before the feud. Sam Shaw's been one offensively Wrestlecraptacular bad idea to the next. I guess the Fandango storyline could count based on how it did nothing for anyone at the end. Willow, despite me loving his promos, was wrestlecrap. Megan Miller was a one night one-off, but so bad that the WWE never mentioned it again definitely warrants its own spot. Hoda and Kathie Lee should have been its own separate nomination as it's one of only two really bad guest host usages, the other being Larry the Cable Guy and Santino interacting with Kane.
Bully Ray vs. Dixie is the biggest oversight, and should be winning. That or the Tito vs Rampage TNA conflict from last year which not only wasn't nominated last year, but was so painful and utterly meaningless despite so much television time devoted to it that it should win the Gooker for 2013, 2014 and 2015.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jan 6, 2015 22:52:31 GMT -5
Y'know, for as bad a year for wrestling as 2014 was, you'd think the Gooker nominees would be more spectacular. As is, almost all of them look sorta like reaching for something that was stand-out terrible. The whole Fandango thing being nominated, in particular. Like...it wasn't good? It was bad at times? I just can't imagine actually caring about it enough to consider it Gooker-worthy. there's always a few lame duck nominations. in all honesty there's usually only 2-3 real contenders most years.
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Post by percymania on Jan 8, 2015 1:09:34 GMT -5
The Bunny does kind of feel like a spiritual successor to the Gobblety Gooker, so I vote for The Bunny.
Or what was the match where the crowd was chanting "THIS IS STUPID". Was it Hornswaggle vs Torito? That match should be nominated.
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Post by Alexander The So-so on Jan 8, 2015 17:34:29 GMT -5
Brass Rings and Bella vs. Bella are literally neck-and-neck! It might be time for a Double Gooker this year!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2015 17:53:58 GMT -5
It has to be the 2014 Rumble. It's possibly the most square peg fitting in round hole booking I have ever seen in wrestling. They salvaged the bad angle beautifully with Batista becoming Douchetista again, Daniel Bryan overcoming every kind of odds to winning the big one at Wrestlemania, the return of Evolution feuding with The Shield, and Bluetista which is why it's probably not winning this poll.
But the weird thing all about this was they wanted Batista to win because he was going to be in Guardians of the Galaxy and not once did WWE promote Guardians of the Galaxy which may finish as the #1 domestic movie of 2014. Possibly for the fact WWE didn't know how to promote Batista's success since the hate for him was still strong and Marvel may not want to be associated with that. Oh yeah and where is Batista right now?
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jan 8, 2015 17:55:09 GMT -5
The fact that Willow is getting so few votes really tells us just how low into the depths 2014 sunk No, it tells us that not that many people watched TNA last year. Current internet mood dictates something from WWE will win and since they included Vince's brass ring statement for some f***ing reason, there's your winner. Which, as you stated, doesn't really even make any sense given that it's not a gimmick or even anything written. That's a puzzling inclusion.
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Post by Yamashita Enforcement Division on Jan 8, 2015 17:58:21 GMT -5
Oh yeah and where is Batista right now? On a mountaintop, hanging with James Bond.
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Post by kidglov3s on Jan 8, 2015 18:13:28 GMT -5
Best choice imo is Megan Miller: Claire Lynch II. Something silly, that was unproductive, and was essentially erased from history as soon as it occurred. It ticks all the Gooker boxes most thoroughly, imo.
Any induction of "brass ring" or Rumble 2014 would be hard to distinguish from your typical rambling Justin Henry smark rage screed. Where's the fun in that? Why bother at that point?
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Post by metylerca on Jan 8, 2015 18:29:01 GMT -5
It has to be the 2014 Rumble. It's possibly the most square peg fitting in round hole booking I have ever seen in wrestling. They salvaged the bad angle beautifully with Batista becoming Douchetista again, Daniel Bryan overcoming every kind of odds to winning the big one at Wrestlemania, the return of Evolution feuding with The Shield, and Bluetista which is why it's probably not winning this poll. But the weird thing all about this was they wanted Batista to win because he was going to be in Guardians of the Galaxy and not once did WWE promote Guardians of the Galaxy which may finish as the #1 domestic movie of 2014. Possibly for the fact WWE didn't know how to promote Batista's success since the hate for him was still strong and Marvel may not want to be associated with that. Oh yeah and where is Batista right now? Bad booking, yeah. But how is this wrestlecrap?
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