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Post by Gravedigger's Biscuits on Jan 5, 2015 22:22:27 GMT -5
I swear someone was trying to make this point on here the other day.
lol
btw this isn't a Reigns hate thread, more of a "f*** you shitty WWE booking" thread. Ambrose is a joke right now.
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Jan 5, 2015 22:26:17 GMT -5
Rollins is basically THE top heel right now, under maybe Lesnar when he's around and Triple H I guess when he wrestles. He's being pushed pretty hard for a heel too. Compared to Reigns, dude looks way better push-wise.
Ambrose though I can't defend. He did main event two PPVs but he lost them all. Lost of hype, but he loses all the damn time.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2015 22:27:10 GMT -5
The current booking for the Shield boys is bullshit.
Rollins is in these matches with high profile opponents but the guy's always being made to look like a joke. Yeah, I know he has the briefcase and it's ok but think about what's happened to him. He went from an uppercard guy who kicked ass and ran away sometimes to a really whiny guy who needs all the help in the world to be made into a threat when we know he's damn good in the ring without it. What's worse? We know he'll get the belt and end up getting beaten by whatever Golden Boy wants the title. They should have kept him as a guy who didn't need much help (Triple H 99-2000) and could still get the job done but now it's far from that. He's doing well now but we know how his character's being booked and we know what'll happen to him. Don't act like we don't.
Reigns is horrible on the mic and in the ring which is pathetic since they want him to be the new Cena. Reigns need to get better all-around but they don't care because he has the look. Even worse than that? They don't know what they want to do with his character. Is he a mostly silent badass who's a juggernaut powerhouse? Is a wise-cracking face who's beaten down all the time who then rises up for a win? They don't know what to do with him. Beyond that, he's getting less cheers than others such as Ambrose, Ziggler, hell the Usos given their responses right now. Big Show was booed more than he was cheered. He needs help.
And Ambrose.....
Ambrose has lost every single PPV match he's had as a singles star, he has not won one. It's been said repeatedly by the announcers and hell the officials on screen that "wins and losses matter" and no matter how many great things Ambrose does, he loses his match. Every. Single. Time. It's pathetic. He might be the only midcard/uppermidcard singles guy that I know of that has been on PPV and hasn't won a match or at least given his skill level. Now his stock is running out. Like Jericho himself said, fans won't be invested in him if he loses every single match. I'm a huge fan of Ambrose but give me a f***ing break.
Overall this is massive horse shit to all 3 guys. F*** all of that though because no matter what Reigns is getting the most with the least amount of overall talent and ability. It's sad man. Ambrose out of all 3 is looking like the biggest joke. This guy was white hot but this Bray feud cooled it down and then that? What we saw tonight? You cannot defend that. No matter if they're trying to keep Bray strong for Undertaker, you can't have that.
I can't believe they've f***ed up this booking. What should be easy ABC 123 stuff they've turned it into e03304ixdjsjsXOSOS23dsjdj.
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Post by berlynwright on Jan 5, 2015 22:28:04 GMT -5
Ambrose and Rollins have been in better storylines and ppv main events though. Survivor Series ME was all about Rollins.
the only notable thing Reigns has done is beating Orton at summerslam.
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Post by aliciafoxfan on Jan 5, 2015 22:29:44 GMT -5
Its seriously Dookie booking Dean's being getting, He should've won tonight.
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Post by Gravedigger's Biscuits on Jan 5, 2015 22:31:24 GMT -5
To be fair this thread wasn't really about Rollins but I didn't want it to just say Ambrose because I'm pretty sure the guy I'm talking about said both of them.
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Post by Unaffiliated on Jan 5, 2015 22:45:13 GMT -5
Surely this has to lead to something different for Ambrose, character wise. How often does the face lose the feud just like that, and moves on to the next one like nothing happened?
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Post by Bear Skin Rug on Jan 5, 2015 22:46:44 GMT -5
Reigns has been pinned like three times ever and he comes out on top of every feud he's in. He's booked better than Rollins.
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Post by g1megatronfan on Jan 5, 2015 22:46:47 GMT -5
They just flushed Ambrose down the crapper at this point. They turned him into such a loser. He can't even win the little ones...never mind the big one in his feuds. Seth Rollins...trash on the mic. His voice sounds like nails scraping against a chalk board. His voice...he should never talk again. He's average at best, but I'm already sick of him. Not to mention he looks ridiculous in that outfit. Reigns...are we sure he's related to the Rock? What the hell happened?...lol.
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Post by Starshine on Jan 5, 2015 22:47:48 GMT -5
Surely this has to lead to something different for Ambrose, character wise. How often does the face lose the feud just like that, and moves on to the next one like nothing happened? It's a lot like Ryback from late 2012-2013. Remember how that turned out? |
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Post by berlynwright on Jan 5, 2015 22:58:45 GMT -5
Reigns has been pinned like three times ever and he comes out on top of every feud he's in. He's booked better than Rollins. being booked dominant is not the same as on being on tv for large amount of time. many ppvs since summerslam have been booked around Rollins. he's pretty much the focus of the show these days. now compare that to Reigns who's doing midcard matches with Show. |
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Post by Unaffiliated on Jan 5, 2015 22:58:46 GMT -5
Surely this has to lead to something different for Ambrose, character wise. How often does the face lose the feud just like that, and moves on to the next one like nothing happened? It's a lot like Ryback from late 2012-2013. Remember how that turned out? Yes. Was thinking heel turn might be the way they intend to go. |
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Post by cabbageboy on Jan 5, 2015 23:34:32 GMT -5
I have this awful feeling that they are jobbing Ambrose to Wyatt due to some notion of pushing Wyatt for a WM match with Taker. If you think about it, isn't that horribly short sighted? I mean let's job out one of our most over guys to a heel that has already lost all momentum in order to feed him to a 50 year old Undertaker (who has no streak at stake now). This is the exact sort of booking that made CM Punk throw up his hands in disgust, the booking he referred to in that podcast.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jan 5, 2015 23:39:27 GMT -5
Remember how people said Wyatt needed to win a feud? Well, this is his 4th feud he won. He beat Kane, Jericho, Bryan, and now Ambrose. While I wanted Dean to win the match, WWE decided to go as unpredictable as folks want them to get. I don't see Ambrose as bitch made as some here does but I got to question where does he go from here? Seth is involved with Cena. His holdover feud with Bray is done.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2015 23:42:14 GMT -5
I have this awful feeling that they are jobbing Ambrose to Wyatt due to some notion of pushing Wyatt for a WM match with Taker. If you think about it, isn't that horribly short sighted? I mean let's job out one of our most over guys to a heel that has already lost all momentum in order to feed him to a 50 year old Undertaker (who has no streak at stake now). This is the exact sort of booking that made CM Punk throw up his hands in disgust, the booking he referred to in that podcast. Reported last week so yes it's correct. And it's bad booking. |
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Jan 5, 2015 23:45:26 GMT -5
I am not one to typically defend bad booking, but... it really doesn't seem to me like the audience is in any danger of seeing Ambrose as a loser. They treat him as important every time he's out there.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jan 5, 2015 23:45:49 GMT -5
It's a weird situation for Ambrose. He's still over, he's still always in the fight (let's be honest, he's not getting squashed in these matches)... Just can't seem to get a win happening. Pretty much all he needs to do is string a few wins together and he'll be right back in the hunt.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Jan 5, 2015 23:50:22 GMT -5
I am glad Wyatt won personally. Dean, the bloom fell off the rose there in the weeks following the lumberjack match with Seth. He went from an interesting loose cannon figure to a jokey face that always has a one liner ready. I know he just came off some time away for that movie but he could really stand to be taken off TV to be refreshed and given a focus.
Instead he'll probably randomly attack Seth, costing him the title and making Bray's win meaningless like the rest, and go on to feud with Rollins at Mania.
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Post by Lancers on Jan 5, 2015 23:54:41 GMT -5
I am glad Wyatt won personally. Dean, the bloom fell off the rose there in the weeks following the lumberjack match with Seth. He went from an interesting loose cannon figure to a jokey face that always has a one liner ready. I know he just came off some time away for that movie but he could really stand to be taken off TV to be refreshed and given a focus. Instead he'll probably randomly attack Seth, costing him the title and making Bray's win meaningless like the rest, and go on to feud with Rollins at Mania. Orton's probably getting the Rollins match at Wrestlemania. I honestly think that it's certainly possible with Cena and Bryan likely without matchups as of now for Wrestlemania, they could do the idiotic thing and turn him heel and face either of them. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2015 23:58:44 GMT -5
I'll say this.
Ambrose will be on a losing Streak until Reigns wins the title. Ambrose will celebrate with Reigns but then suddenly go heel on him. Yeah it'll be like the Sayn/Owens NXT thing but it's going to happen, surely. It will happen.
Whenever Reigns gets the belt, expect to see it.
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