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Post by Beets by Schrute on Jan 5, 2015 23:27:15 GMT -5
What is the best way to explain the Streak in its early days? Did the WWF intentionally want Taker to win every match at Wrestlemania he took part in? Was it coincidental that he kept winning until one year someone pointed out that he was undefeated? What was the Streak before it was called that?
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jan 5, 2015 23:29:42 GMT -5
By all accounts it was coincidental.
Including the story that he was originally booked to lose to Jake Roberts for instance but Jake wanted out so they had Taker beat him.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Jan 6, 2015 0:54:02 GMT -5
I think the first reference to it at all was at the Mania Flair and Taker fought, after Taker won, he counted all the wins on his hand. I can't recall anyone noticing the Streak at all before this much. If they did, it certainly wasn't "the Streak".
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Post by legendkiller1985 on Jan 6, 2015 2:16:45 GMT -5
I think the first reference to it at all was at the Mania Flair and Taker fought, after Taker won, he counted all the wins on his hand. I can't recall anyone noticing the Streak at all before this much. If they did, it certainly wasn't "the Streak". I think Vince mentioned it a few times on commentary at 11, 12, 13. But it didn't really become the focal point until Wrestlemania 21 with Orton. Wrestlemania 11 had Taker/Bundy fighting over the stolen urn, Diesel got his match due to costing Undertaker a title match against Bret. Kane/Taker 1 had the whole "I will not fight my brother" story. Bossman was chosen to take down the ministry. Triple H at X7 had the "i've beaten everyone except Undertaker". Flair cost Undertaker a match and Taker wanted to get a match with Flair by any means. I'm amazed that I remember most of these build ups. |
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Jan 6, 2015 2:18:32 GMT -5
I think the first reference to it at all was at the Mania Flair and Taker fought, after Taker won, he counted all the wins on his hand. I can't recall anyone noticing the Streak at all before this much. If they did, it certainly wasn't "the Streak". I think Vince mentioned it a few times on commentary at 11, 12, 13. But it didn't really become the focal point until Wrestlemania 21 with Orton. Wrestlemania 11 had Taker/Bundy fighting over the stolen urn, Diesel got his match due to costing Undertaker a title match against Bret. Kane/Taker 1 had the whole "I will not fight my brother" story. Bossman was chosen to take down the ministry. Triple H at X7 had the "i've beaten everyone except Undertaker". Flair cost Undertaker a match and Taker wanted to get a match with Flair by any means. I'm amazed that I remember most of these build ups. Yup, that seems all right to me. They may have mentioned it in passing. Perhaps Taker counting the wins on his fingers is the first acknowledgement I truly remember and I have some vague memory of people online mentioning his undefeated streak at this point. |
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Post by legendkiller1985 on Jan 6, 2015 2:24:04 GMT -5
I think Vince mentioned it a few times on commentary at 11, 12, 13. But it didn't really become the focal point until Wrestlemania 21 with Orton. Wrestlemania 11 had Taker/Bundy fighting over the stolen urn, Diesel got his match due to costing Undertaker a title match against Bret. Kane/Taker 1 had the whole "I will not fight my brother" story. Bossman was chosen to take down the ministry. Triple H at X7 had the "i've beaten everyone except Undertaker". Flair cost Undertaker a match and Taker wanted to get a match with Flair by any means. I'm amazed that I remember most of these build ups. Yup, that seems all right to me. They may have mentioned it in passing. Perhaps Taker counting the wins on his fingers is the first acknowledgement I truly remember and I have some vague memory of people online mentioning his undefeated streak at this point. I remember the now famous Vince Soundbite at 11 during his Entrance "The man who never lost at Wrestlemania" |
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Jan 6, 2015 2:36:55 GMT -5
Yup, that seems all right to me. They may have mentioned it in passing. Perhaps Taker counting the wins on his fingers is the first acknowledgement I truly remember and I have some vague memory of people online mentioning his undefeated streak at this point. I remember the now famous Vince Soundbite at 11 during his Entrance "The man who never lost at Wrestlemania" He only had 3 matches by then!!! |
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jan 6, 2015 2:39:20 GMT -5
I remember the now famous Vince Soundbite at 11 during his Entrance "The man who never lost at Wrestlemania" He only had 3 matches by then!!! and the last one at that point was the DQ technicality  |
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Jan 6, 2015 3:00:26 GMT -5
He only had 3 matches by then!!! and the last one at that point was the DQ technicality Even WWE knows the less said about that match, the better. |
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Post by legendkiller1985 on Jan 6, 2015 12:36:56 GMT -5
and the last one at that point was the DQ technicality Even WWE knows the less said about that match, the better. The only highlights i've seen from that match in the video packages is his entrance with the chariot and vulture or him uppercutting Gonzales. |
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jan 6, 2015 12:41:03 GMT -5
Even WWE knows the less said about that match, the better. The only highlights i've seen from that match in the video packages is his entrance with the chariot and vulture or him uppercutting Gonzales. Those are about the only Highlights |
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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 6, 2015 12:44:11 GMT -5
Even WWE knows the less said about that match, the better. The only highlights i've seen from that match in the video packages is his entrance with the chariot and vulture or him uppercutting Gonzales. Nah, I'd limit it entirely to just the chariot and vulture. |
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Post by thegame415 on Jan 6, 2015 17:05:06 GMT -5
It was mentioned in passing in a lot of the buildups until 21, when it turned into the storyline for Orton to face Undertaker. For example, I remember taker counting to ten with his fingers after beating Flair at WM 18.
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Post by Blindkarevik on Jan 6, 2015 19:19:30 GMT -5
It was all coincidental. If it wasn't, they would've had him go over Giant Gonzalez clean rather than a half-assed DQ.
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Post by mizerable on Jan 6, 2015 19:25:50 GMT -5
I don't recall it ever being a thing prior to Wrestlemania X-8. They may have known about it prior to that, but with the exception of Triple H at 17, Sid at 13 and Kane at 14, Taker was usually fighting jabronis.
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Post by thecrusherwi on Jan 6, 2015 22:55:37 GMT -5
They totally lucked into The Streak. I will say that it is impressive that Taker was so over/heavily pushed from the get go that for a decade, the default booking was "ah, have Taker go over". I honestly think that's the part that makes it legit impressive in more of a sports sense.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jan 6, 2015 23:01:47 GMT -5
They totally lucked into The Streak. I will say that it is impressive that Taker was so over/heavily pushed from the get go that for a decade, the default booking was "ah, have Taker go over". I honestly think that's the part that makes it legit impressive in more of a sports sense. Some of it was luck too. in the WWE produced Jake Roberts documentary he stated that he was originally slated to win at Taker's second mania... but Jake decided he wanted to leave so they swapped it. I think there was talk of Gonzales beating him as well before they settled on the DQ ending as well. |
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Post by thecrusherwi on Jan 6, 2015 23:07:30 GMT -5
They totally lucked into The Streak. I will say that it is impressive that Taker was so over/heavily pushed from the get go that for a decade, the default booking was "ah, have Taker go over". I honestly think that's the part that makes it legit impressive in more of a sports sense. Some of it was luck too. in the WWE produced Jake Roberts documentary he stated that he was originally slated to win at Taker's second mania... but Jake decided he wanted to leave so they swapped it. I think there was talk of Gonzales beating him as well before they settled on the DQ ending as well. Yeah I sort of have a hard time believing Jake there. Unless they were going to try and restart the Jake/Warrior feud. It just doesn't make sense to beat a character like the Undertaker when he had just turned face. I still am shocked that Taker and Gonzalez didn't go to some kind of no contest. |
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