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Post by sonofblaine on Jan 6, 2015 14:04:22 GMT -5
Back in the day when WWE wrestlers used to actually be SUPERSTARS if you threatened to fire them they would say what Punk said in real life. F*** you I quit, and I'm gonna go somewhere else, make more money, and get more over (omitting the part about getting "over" in the kayfabe context) because I CAN. The problem is there isn't anywhere to go and make more money. It's not a threat. Back in the day, WWF/E wouldn't risk losing top, popular talent, because they'd go to WCW and take their fans with them. Now what? Will the majority of WWE fans start hunting down ways to watch them on ROH, in Japan, or how many would bother to switch to TNA? Some hardcore fans might, but the majority won't. |
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Post by adamclark52 on Jan 6, 2015 14:07:27 GMT -5
Remember when the first Raw of the year had the return of Bret Hart?
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Post by CeilingFan on Jan 6, 2015 14:10:05 GMT -5
Losing Innocence, Remembering Heaven. That is the essence of Hell.
I don't know why, but that phrase bumped into my head when I saw that ending.
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Post by Milkman Norm on Jan 6, 2015 14:10:57 GMT -5
I was okay with it and I don't even know why. They probably left it just like that as sort of a cliffhanger to next week's episode of RAW. Going by the reactions here, though, not sure how many will be tuning in. I didn't watch Raw but I can tell you it wasn't a cliffhanger. Cliffhangers are paid off. Stories on Raw go on and on till Vince stops caring. Then they just end. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2015 14:37:16 GMT -5
I am sick of it...I miss when matches were structured because the superstars were trying to win their respective spots championship...im just so sick of the over complicated back and forth authority angles...
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Post by lemonyellowson on Jan 6, 2015 14:43:59 GMT -5
while yeah the babyfaces looked really dumb it was amazing heeling. first class bad guy stuff - the music and the ticker tape took it from good heeling to amazing, out of this world, I would pay money to see these two get the crap beat out of them heeling.
great stuff.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Jan 6, 2015 15:02:49 GMT -5
It was a good ending in the context of the WWE universe (the actual universe, not the bullshit term they use to call us) but as a detached observer I am just sick and tired of it. I miss when pro-wrestlers (or sports entertainers, or whatever the hell you want to call them) were badasses, and were not portrayed as wimpering wussbags, or Walmart wage slaves terrified to lose their oh so precious jobs which they would be completely helpless without. (Cue back in the day rant for those who wish to skip to the next post...) Back in the day when WWE wrestlers used to actually be SUPERSTARS if you threatened to fire them they would say what Punk said in real life. F*** you I quit, and I'm gonna go somewhere else, make more money, and get more over (omitting the part about getting "over" in the kayfabe context) because I CAN. They wouldn't just stand there like whimpering idiots. Another thing in kayfabe to Dolph, Rowan, and Ryback. Hey, there's four of you guys in there with Hunter. You outnumber him badly. He's already just FIRED you. At this point WHY NOT just beat the ever lovin piss out of him until security rushes in (beat them up too while you're at it, as Ryback did once before in a 2012 angle where he was a babyface)? Oh, that's right because you don't want him to get mad at you and not bring you back 2 weeks later like we all know is going to happen anyway. I'm depressingly close to a f*** this company POV right now, which is depressing because that is not normally my kind of attitude at all. WCW existed back then. Wrestlers had a place to "make more money and get more over because they can". That doesn't exist anymore in kayfabe. Also, now that they're "unemployed", beating the f*** out of Hunner would be a crime. Considering a man got off scott free last week with threatening attempted murder and was actually rewarded for it, unemployed people beating up their former boss would be deemed legal in wrestling terms. |
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Post by bmfjules on Jan 6, 2015 15:41:52 GMT -5
In kayfabe any of these guys could still go to UFC, Bellator etc... (in reality for all but a few that's probably a very bad idea) or more to Vince's way of thinking they could go to hollywood like Rock and Batista. Unless once again the kayfabe side of the story is that they are not real fighters or talented enough "entertainers" which again, another reason for their being treated like low level wage slaves at a Walmart.
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Post by PsychoGoatee on Jan 6, 2015 18:25:43 GMT -5
A very weird ending, it did make me laugh though. It was like WWE trying for a Stanley Kubrick kind of thing, maybe that's overstating it ha, but it was pretty weird. Cena standing there like a corpse while the triumphant music plays, just very bizarre. I don't think it worked as intended, but it was funny.
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Post by aliciafoxfan on Jan 6, 2015 18:33:42 GMT -5
Playing Lex Luger Music made me laugh so hard.
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Post by mrbananagrabber on Jan 6, 2015 20:49:43 GMT -5
Steph dancing along to the music was glorious.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2015 21:13:54 GMT -5
Once again, John Cena is a terrible friend. John Cena is no one's friend. If John Cena were an ice cream flavor, he'd be pralines and poopy. |
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Post by fortknox on Jan 6, 2015 22:49:36 GMT -5
Steph dancing along to the music was glorious. Speaking of which I was laughing at the way she was bobbin her head to Ryback's music. |
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Post by benstudd on Jan 7, 2015 4:55:48 GMT -5
Was so embarrassing to watch.
I didn't know where to turn, where to look, and then my eyes graced back at the screen trying to find something good in it and the primal side of my brain garnered this response:"well at least Steph is still freaking hot in that little girl outfit".
Hey say what you will, she's never not hot and the most evil she is, the hotter she gets. She's like Fallon Carington back in the Dynasty days.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jan 7, 2015 4:58:26 GMT -5
In isolation, it was actually some awesome dark comedy.
"Congratulations, John, you just sent three of your workmates to the poorhouse! Here's a jaunty patriotic tune to celebrate!"
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Jan 7, 2015 5:04:42 GMT -5
In isolation, it was actually some awesome dark comedy. "Congratulations, John, you just sent three of your workmates to the poorhouse! Here's a jaunty patriotic tune to celebrate!" Yeah, I hated everything about the ending of Raw, except for that. Having the confetti, the balloons, and Stars and Stripes Forever while Ziggler, Ryback, Rowan, and Cena sulked in the middle of the ring was some good heeling. |
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jan 7, 2015 5:06:49 GMT -5
And the other thing is... I'm certain the commentary team stayed silent. Of all the moments, it was THIS one where someone was like "You shut up and let this BREATHE, dammit!".
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