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Post by bmfjules on Jan 9, 2015 20:23:51 GMT -5
By wrestlers I should clarify, not us marks. I ask this because I find myself being bothered by weird stuff like Cena congratulating HHH on twitter for a real life accomplishment right after in kayfabe they should be mortal enemies, however at times listening to say a Jim Cornette (who I like) whine about protecting the business can get very old and repetitive, especially when he goes on about how wrestling is dead and buried just because kayfabe is gone. So to what extent, and in what circumstances should kayfabe still be observed, if at all? Personally, I would prefer it be observed primarily on the damn wrestling show itself. (No Dolph Ziggler saying he tried so hard to ENTERTAIN us when he should have been fighting for his damn job at Survivor Series) and then to a limited amount on Twitter/FB etc... Like if you are in a death feud with someone, don't have them on your podcast being all buddy/buddy talking about insidery stuff. Wait until the feud is over and enough time has passed and then have them on there. Maybe that's just an unreasonable and weird thing to expect, but wrestling to me as always been a kind of 24/7 sort of business unlike television or movie actors who can pick up and put down their characters as they please. Anything that makes it harder for me to suspend my disbelief should be kept to a minimum, anything that makes it easier should be encouraged, short of going back to the days of actually trying to portray wrestling as something it was not---an actual shoot competition.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2015 4:12:24 GMT -5
Just like a theatrical production - during the "show," and that's it.
Granted, wrestling is a different kind of animal from a play, which is self-contained, and the build for a match can't really be broken or it destroys the narrative. Thus, the "show" can totally extend to outside media appearances and such. An interview with the Miz and one with Mike Mizanin could be two very different things.
However, taking any kind of measures to pretend wrestling is legit is completely insane. It isn't a business out to con people into watching it anymore. Wrestling fans watch it for the entertainment value. Pretending wrestling is real is about as necessary to its entertainment value as pretending the Walking Dead is real.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Jan 10, 2015 4:17:30 GMT -5
Always. I'm not even a huge fan of them having Twitter accounts. The fact I can now in seconds call Hulk Hogan names on the Internet is f***ed up. The nod and the wink with the audience that we all know it's fake is fine, if I'm doing the nodding and the winking, not when they are.
I love the books and the documentaries, but we got too far into it as a casual fan. We're too inside.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jan 10, 2015 4:36:02 GMT -5
Depends on the wrestler and the scenario.
Wrestlers who aren't locked into huge gimmicks should be free to talk about their personal lives a bit. Zack Ryder can talk about the time he got drunk at a formal event and soiled himself, but Kane should keep his private life to himself.
Ccertain wrestlers who use gimmicked names like "The Miz" or "R-Truth" should e even be free to use real names.
Someone like Bray Wyatt shouldn't be making media or PR appearances. Even in WWE's own universe "dark" characters or characters meant to be "outsiders" of any type should not be plastered all over promotional material, appearing in bumpers, comedy skits, or wacky commercials for the TV networks; or even be nominated for Slammys.
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Post by Chuckie Finster on Jan 10, 2015 5:17:22 GMT -5
I don't want to be reminded while I'm at or watching a show that it's fake. Even at the gimmick tables. Chikara is really good about that.
In a public appearance, kayfabe to an extent should be observed, but it's a blurry line. If Kane is doing an interview, he's Kane, not Glen Jacobs, even if he's talking about non-kayfabe stuff like backstage ribs. Promote the show, promote the matches, talk about how you're going to beat that no good Daniel Bryan or whoever you're wrestling and that's fine.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jan 10, 2015 14:06:36 GMT -5
Like any other actor. During the show/production, you're in character. Outside you're you.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2015 14:41:30 GMT -5
It's messed up right now because they sometimes even play their characters outside WWE programming, all the while winking at the audience. They should just draw a clear line - on WWE programming they are in character. Outside of WWE programming, they are actors/athletes.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2015 14:47:40 GMT -5
Treat it like Characters in a sports environment like NJPW does.
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