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Post by Lance Uppercut on Jan 10, 2015 5:02:40 GMT -5
I for one prefer the use of the word Superstar.
This didn't hit me until during that ECW invasion Joey Styles was like "Oh, the SuperStars of WWE better watch out, HERE COMES THE WRESTLERS!". Just sounds so generic. They're all wrestlers, but the WWE guys are superstars. I was watching TNA, and while it's a breath of fresh air hear the words wrestling and wrestler (and such Lucha Underground say Lucha and Lucha libre), they really beat you over the head with it and they sound just so common. Also when Brooke and Robbie were on TNA and just referred to as "The wrestlers".
I'm not a fan of labeling all the women as Divas, but i like the term Divas championship. Something about calling it Women's championship just makes it seem like a lesser thing. Not a knock against women, but it's weird that there's the World Heavyweight title, Intercontinental, and Women's title. So very plain and seems to over point out the fact that they're not men. It's like how WWE prefers the term Cruiserweight instead of Light heavyweight because the Light makes it seem like a lesser division. Then did away with the cruiserweight division because people didn't want people to think of the cruiserweights as lesser than the non-cruiserweights.
Also TNA using the term X division instead of cruiserweight.
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Post by RIHT on Jan 10, 2015 7:23:43 GMT -5
Completely disagree about the Diva's title. Women's title sounds way more important. Hell, I kind of wish WWE had something less cheap besides Diva to call the women there.
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Post by hossfan on Jan 10, 2015 7:28:36 GMT -5
In the right context I don't mind "WWE Universe."
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2015 7:34:57 GMT -5
Vince: "I'm sick of people bitching about them being called divas. Get that belt guy on the horn, we're ditching the Diva belt and bringing in the Wet Floozy belt. Lets see how those smartasses like that."
WWE official: "Sir I don't think that's a good i..."
Vince: "YOU SHUT YOUR BISCUIT PORTAL AND DO IT!"
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Post by Starshine on Jan 10, 2015 7:38:12 GMT -5
Women's championship = Lesser thing?
Bad choice of words OP.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 10, 2015 7:39:33 GMT -5
Honestly, none.
They never come up with anything that sounds better than what they are trying to avoid using.
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Post by xCompackx on Jan 10, 2015 8:42:27 GMT -5
Yeah, Superstar is fine with me because it just makes whoever you're talking about seem larger than life, but Divas has to go. It's a terrible name that just makes everyone in the women's division seem like bitches.
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Post by theryno665 on Jan 10, 2015 14:05:47 GMT -5
In the right context I don't mind "WWE Universe." I like WWE Universe, but not to describe the fans. The WWE itself should be the universe (ie Marvel Universe, DC Universe, etc). |
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Jan 10, 2015 16:31:10 GMT -5
I laugh how nobody has heads in the WWE, just skulls.
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Post by Mid-Carder on Jan 10, 2015 16:47:31 GMT -5
"medical facility"
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Post by Reflecto on Jan 10, 2015 17:51:30 GMT -5
Women's championship = Lesser thing? Bad choice of words OP. That's the problem though, with any "separate but equal" division. SOMETHING has to separate the division only one division can compete in from the World Title-based divisions, where anyone (including, presumably, a person in that division could choose to compete in if they really wanted to)- but as we know for years, "separate but equal" is never truly equal- and all the other words to describe that division have equal connotations (is calling a woman a "Knockout" that much better than calling her a "Diva"?) |
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Post by Martin: #TeamBella Treasurer on Jan 10, 2015 18:24:02 GMT -5
I think the term 'Diva' in WWE was intended to be linked to the original definition of the word: celebrated, successful, talented females (originally in music and theatre). If Vince came up with the idea of naming WWE's female talent this (and his apparent lack of knowledge of modern life/society), I could totally see this being the intention. But, as the 'prima donna' definition of the word is more commonly used today, that is what is thought of when 'Divas' is brought up.
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Post by Lance Uppercut on Jan 10, 2015 18:28:29 GMT -5
I think the term 'Diva' in WWE was intended to be linked to the original definition of the word: celebrated, successful, talented females (originally in music and theatre). If Vince came up with the idea of naming WWE's female talent this (and his apparent lack of knowledge of modern life/society), I could totally see this being the intention. But, as the 'prima donna' definition of the word is more commonly used today, that is what is thought of when 'Divas' is brought up. Yeah growing in the 90's I heard the term Diva used for very high profile musical singers, Whitney, Mariah, Celine Dione even. So while I've heard the term Diva used in a negative light, I've heard the term and associate it with Elite women seriously and sarcastically for spoiled women who think that they're better than they really are. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2015 18:43:38 GMT -5
"Opportunity" instead of (title) "shot", or "chance".
Because f*** 1 syllable words.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jan 10, 2015 18:57:12 GMT -5
I think the term 'Diva' in WWE was intended to be linked to the original definition of the word: celebrated, successful, talented females (originally in music and theatre). If Vince came up with the idea of naming WWE's female talent this (and his apparent lack of knowledge of modern life/society), I could totally see this being the intention. But, as the 'prima donna' definition of the word is more commonly used today, that is what is thought of when 'Divas' is brought up. the word had a massive resurgence in the late nineties early 2000's back to meaning what Prima Donna and Diva originally meant. I think the term 'Diva' in WWE was intended to be linked to the original definition of the word: celebrated, successful, talented females (originally in music and theatre). If Vince came up with the idea of naming WWE's female talent this (and his apparent lack of knowledge of modern life/society), I could totally see this being the intention. But, as the 'prima donna' definition of the word is more commonly used today, that is what is thought of when 'Divas' is brought up. Yeah growing in the 90's I heard the term Diva used for very high profile musical singers, Whitney, Mariah, Celine Dione even. So while I've heard the term Diva used in a negative light, I've heard the term and associate it with Elite women seriously and sarcastically for spoiled women who think that they're better than they really are. That's what the word was intended to mean. For instance Female Opera Singers are still referred to as Divas. The vain spoiled women being called divas was meant sarcastically... ditto Prima Donna. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2015 19:47:40 GMT -5
So which kind of Diva were Aunt Viv and her sisters?
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Post by bmfjules on Jan 10, 2015 21:20:28 GMT -5
I laugh how nobody has heads in the WWE, just external occipital protuberances. Fixed (Circa 1989) |
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Post by Porky's Butthole on Jan 10, 2015 21:41:11 GMT -5
I for one prefer the use of the word Superstar. This didn't hit me until during that ECW invasion Joey Styles was like "Oh, the SuperStars of WWE better watch out, HERE COMES THE WRESTLERS!". Just sounds so generic. They're all wrestlers, but the WWE guys are superstars. I was watching TNA, and while it's a breath of fresh air hear the words wrestling and wrestler (and such Lucha Underground say Lucha and Lucha libre), they really beat you over the head with it and they sound just so common. Also when Brooke and Robbie were on TNA and just referred to as "The wrestlers". I'm not a fan of labeling all the women as Divas, but i like the term Divas championship. Something about calling it Women's championship just makes it seem like a lesser thing. Not a knock against women, but it's weird that there's the World Heavyweight title, Intercontinental, and Women's title. So very plain and seems to over point out the fact that they're not men. It's like how WWE prefers the term Cruiserweight instead of Light heavyweight because the Light makes it seem like a lesser division. Then did away with the cruiserweight division because people didn't want people to think of the cruiserweights as lesser than the non-cruiserweights. Also TNA using the term X division instead of cruiserweight. I also love the use of Superstar. Same for Championship rather than belt. Also, the X Division wasn't cruiserweights. Look at Samoa Joe. |
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Post by Andy Martin on Jan 11, 2015 3:50:39 GMT -5
-Superstar
-WWE Universe
-'Diva' doesn't really bother me, either
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2015 8:19:51 GMT -5
I for one prefer the use of the word Superstar. This didn't hit me until during that ECW invasion Joey Styles was like "Oh, the SuperStars of WWE better watch out, HERE COMES THE WRESTLERS!". Just sounds so generic. They're all wrestlers, but the WWE guys are superstars. I was watching TNA, and while it's a breath of fresh air hear the words wrestling and wrestler (and such Lucha Underground say Lucha and Lucha libre), they really beat you over the head with it and they sound just so common. Also when Brooke and Robbie were on TNA and just referred to as "The wrestlers". I'm not a fan of labeling all the women as Divas, but i like the term Divas championship. Something about calling it Women's championship just makes it seem like a lesser thing. Not a knock against women, but it's weird that there's the World Heavyweight title, Intercontinental, and Women's title. So very plain and seems to over point out the fact that they're not men. It's like how WWE prefers the term Cruiserweight instead of Light heavyweight because the Light makes it seem like a lesser division. Then did away with the cruiserweight division because people didn't want people to think of the cruiserweights as lesser than the non-cruiserweights. Also TNA using the term X division instead of cruiserweight. I also love the use of Superstar. Same for Championship rather than belt. Also, the X Division wasn't cruiserweights. Look at Samoa Joe. Using "championship" and not "belt" when talking about the accomplishment itself, fine, gives it a little more of a dignified sound. Any time they refer to the physical object as the championship, though, it's just idiotic. A championship is not a physical object. |
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