FinalGwen
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
Particularly fond of muffins.
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Post by FinalGwen on Jan 18, 2015 20:41:23 GMT -5
This is where the system needs to change. People on public aid should be required to provide a monthly budget to the government to show where that aid is going, and be subject to audit at any time. That includes making healthier life choices in a case like this. If someone is on disability for being fat, and spends all their money on cheeseburgers and soda, it's a lost cause that we shouldn't be funding. Yes, freedom, yes, but when tax payers/government money is sustaining you, I think you ought to lose some of that for transparency purposes. If you can make yourself a productive member of society, by god eat all the burgers and drink all the soda. But not on the public dime. If they can't keep up their end of the bargain, they get no aid. If there are children involved, they should be taken away from the family and go into foster care. It's inexcusable that they flaunt their lifestyle this way, with a sheen of self-righteousness, when a lot of working people have less to show for it. People NEED this shit, but morons like this ruin it for everyone. They suck up tax money and divide us politically. The fact that you thought this post was a good idea is a billion times more concerning and frankly horrifying to me than the fact that two obese people with numerous health problems are claiming benefits. We are currently in a situation where people are being thrown off benefits and forced into work where they physically cannot. There are horror stories from up and down the country of people surveyed by Atos and lazily thrown onto lists of people who should be working and their benefits revoked. People have died as a result. And now you want to expand that and let the state intrude on every aspect of people's lives to police the disabled. How do we decide that someone isn't doing enough for their health? Does anyone who steps into a McDonalds revoke their rights to a living allowance, or just anyone who doesn't have a gym membership? At what weight are you banned from eating junk food on pain of revocation? How would you propose such a system protect itself against abuse by private companies looking to force people off the books to keep their profits up, as is already happening? At the end of the day, i s it a preferable situation that people starve than be fat? Is being a 'productive member of society' (i.e. contributing to capitalism) more important than human life? Do you know how much of the tax budget of the UK goes to disability living allowance AND incapacity benefit? Around 3-4%. The whole benefits budget comes to around 23% of social expenditure, and around half of that is spent on pensions alone, more than unemployment benefit or disability benefit by a matter of tens of billions of pounds. Quite frankly, 3-4% is a drop in the ocean for all the lives it saves and the good it does, and if a few bad apples get through, better that than the alternative.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jan 18, 2015 20:56:56 GMT -5
Man, these stories aren't as fun when they're close to home rather than Florida based. Dammit UK.
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Sephiroth
Wade Wilson
Surviving
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Post by Sephiroth on Jan 18, 2015 20:59:50 GMT -5
The top picture makes them look like a wrestling tag team from the 80s. WE'RE BETTER THAN THEM! The funny part is the look on both their faces makes it seem like tgry just saw a pic of these two and are saying "Damn!"
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2015 21:15:01 GMT -5
Ugh.
I meh the fat. I've been tubby before. It stinks.
I however, want to Harlem Side Kick the obese.
If you get to where your walk becomes a waddle, you've lost.
It ain't about the Mom. f*** her. It's about the kid. She ain't a bruiser just because, you planted and watered those seeds.
STOP. EATING. SO MUCH. AWFUL. FOOD and doing NOTHING on the exercise front.
If you're happy, you're happy, but a 5'2 woman that outweighs King Kong Bundy ain't f***ing happy.
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Post by The Shareholder is nude on Jan 18, 2015 21:22:36 GMT -5
This is where the system needs to change. People on public aid should be required to provide a monthly budget to the government to show where that aid is going, and be subject to audit at any time. That includes making healthier life choices in a case like this. If someone is on disability for being fat, and spends all their money on cheeseburgers and soda, it's a lost cause that we shouldn't be funding. Yes, freedom, yes, but when tax payers/government money is sustaining you, I think you ought to lose some of that for transparency purposes. If you can make yourself a productive member of society, by god eat all the burgers and drink all the soda. But not on the public dime. If they can't keep up their end of the bargain, they get no aid. If there are children involved, they should be taken away from the family and go into foster care. It's inexcusable that they flaunt their lifestyle this way, with a sheen of self-righteousness, when a lot of working people have less to show for it. People NEED this shit, but morons like this ruin it for everyone. They suck up tax money and divide us politically. The fact that you thought this post was a good idea is a billion times more concerning and frankly horrifying to me than the fact that two obese people with numerous health problems are claiming benefits. We are currently in a situation where people are being thrown off benefits and forced into work where they physically cannot. There are horror stories from up and down the country of people surveyed by Atos and lazily thrown onto lists of people who should be working and their benefits revoked. People have died as a result. And now you want to expand that and let the state intrude on every aspect of people's lives to police the disabled. How do we decide that someone isn't doing enough for their health? Does anyone who steps into a McDonalds revoke their rights to a living allowance, or just anyone who doesn't have a gym membership? At what weight are you banned from eating junk food on pain of revocation? How would you propose such a system protect itself against abuse by private companies looking to force people off the books to keep their profits up, as is already happening? At the end of the day, i s it a preferable situation that people starve than be fat? Is being a 'productive member of society' (i.e. contributing to capitalism) more important than human life? Do you know how much of the tax budget of the UK goes to disability living allowance AND incapacity benefit? Around 3-4%. The whole benefits budget comes to around 23% of social expenditure, and around half of that is spent on pensions alone, more than unemployment benefit or disability benefit by a matter of tens of billions of pounds. Quite frankly, 3-4% is a drop in the ocean for all the lives it saves and the good it does, and if a few bad apples get through, better that than the alternative. Welfare is a crutch that lazy and selfish people use to sponge off taxpayers, while ruining the system for those who genuinely need it. There is NOTHING wrong with transparency in the welfare system if it will get people like these two fatties OFF OF IT. Darwin will dictate if they make it or not without a handout, as it should be.
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Post by rapidfire187 on Jan 18, 2015 22:00:51 GMT -5
I love the fact that I work stupid hours a weeks and part of my wage goes to these waste of spaces I typically work 5-6 days a week and don't even make half of what they're getting. *sigh*
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Post by Zaq "That Guy" Buzzkill on Jan 19, 2015 0:01:23 GMT -5
This thread is heading in a direction. No sir I don't like it.
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suave
Dennis Stamp
"I only got on my knees for God and maybe to lick a girl's pussy" -Teddy Hart
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Post by suave on Jan 19, 2015 0:36:58 GMT -5
ew
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Jan 19, 2015 0:38:29 GMT -5
Let's just call this one kaput.
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