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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2015 17:36:03 GMT -5
I mean WWE have guaranteed income.
they've worked out how many people will pay for access to their tape library and PPV events and that there's not much the company can do to change the number in either direction (the old "wrestling fans will watch any wrestling" addage that many within the business have said). so they have become complacent as there is no need to even give a shit about PPV's. They've basically become glorified monthly house shows (except without the happy go lucky endings ) for the networks subscribers.
Raw is 3 hours to advertise the network.
Hell even the fueds seem designed to promote the network and its archive more than anything.
WWE have basically now got a license to print money to the point where they don't have to try in the slightest.
I know there are other elements like the stubborn old man in charge, not wanting to rock the boat too much with investors and sponsors and various others as well mind, it would be naive to think anything is caused by just one problem, there's probably lots more as well as fans we will never be privy to.
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Post by MichaelMartini on Mar 6, 2015 17:38:49 GMT -5
Possibly but it doesn't explain why it's sucked since 07.
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Post by paywindah on Mar 6, 2015 17:39:04 GMT -5
They are definitely not "printing money" with the network and need a lot more subs to brake even, much less turn a profit.
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Post by nate5054 on Mar 6, 2015 17:45:23 GMT -5
I haven't watched much NXT (nothing against it, more of a time thing), but from what I hear it's pretty good and it's a network exclusive.
So just the fact there is a network doesn't preclude the product from sucking. The fact some senile out of touch f*** who has an iron hand on the product probably has a lot more to do with it.
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Post by bigjohnsons on Mar 6, 2015 18:11:15 GMT -5
Maybe it doesn't suck , just maybe the whole concept of wrestling it self sucks to you , or maybe it's the nostalgia factor , yeah let's go with that !
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Post by JTG Fan on Mar 6, 2015 18:13:48 GMT -5
Possibly but it doesn't explain why it's sucked since 07. 2008 was awesome, probably the best year since 2001.
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Post by MichaelMartini on Mar 6, 2015 18:18:21 GMT -5
Possibly but it doesn't explain why it's sucked since 07. 2008 was awesome, probably the best year since 2001. I respectfully disagree. Aside from ECW and HBK/Jericho feud there wasn't much else I liked. Too much Cena/Orton/HHH
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Post by Juice on Mar 6, 2015 18:22:43 GMT -5
I've seen it mentioned dozens or more times that WWE have a "it's only ten bucks, who cares" policy which is ludicrous. I think when dealing with ppv they ended up only getting 10 dollars out of the 60 dollar fee after they pay their dues. The network was a way to ween that out and take all of the profits of a dwindling market.
The quality has nothing to do with the one product they have worth investing in. It has to do with Vince and company putting out terrible shows.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2015 20:09:38 GMT -5
WWE has sucked for 20+ years, that's why I carefully pay attention so I can explain exactly why it sucks on message boards
You might think "Well that's dumb, why not just stop watching" well I have a glandular condition that forces me to watch.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Mar 6, 2015 20:27:29 GMT -5
WWE has sucked for 20+ years, that's why I carefully pay attention so I can explain exactly why it sucks on message boards You might think "Well that's dumb, why not just stop watching" well I have a glandular condition that forces me to watch. Well that's dumb, why not just take medication for your condition?
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Post by BigWill on Mar 6, 2015 20:41:31 GMT -5
WWE has sucked for 20+ years, that's why I carefully pay attention so I can explain exactly why it sucks on message boards You might think "Well that's dumb, why not just stop watching" well I have a glandular condition that forces me to watch. Well that's dumb, why not just take medication for your condition? Sadly there is no cure, and the condition is quite common among wrestling fans.
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Post by molson5 on Mar 6, 2015 21:41:12 GMT -5
WWE has sucked for 20+ years, that's why I carefully pay attention so I can explain exactly why it sucks on message boards You might think "Well that's dumb, why not just stop watching" well I have a glandular condition that forces me to watch. I have sympathy for you but know you're not alone, this is a very common malady.
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Post by bluemeii on Mar 6, 2015 21:50:35 GMT -5
Well that's dumb, why not just take medication for your condition? Sadly there is no cure, and the condition is quite common among wrestling fans. Sure there is. It's called new batteries for the remote.
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Post by rapidfire187 on Mar 6, 2015 22:53:15 GMT -5
I haven't watched much NXT (nothing against it, more of a time thing), but from what I hear it's pretty good and it's a network exclusive. So just the fact there is a network doesn't preclude the product from sucking. The fact some senile out of touch f*** who has an iron hand on the product probably has a lot more to do with it. It's also on Hulu. But yea, NXT is great. Even my non wrestling fan roommates love watching it with me. It's everything WWE should be.
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Post by freeze Austin on Mar 6, 2015 23:17:58 GMT -5
WWE has sucked for 20+ years, that's why I carefully pay attention so I can explain exactly why it sucks on message boards You might think "Well that's dumb, why not just stop watching" well I have a glandular condition that forces me to watch. I get the point you're making, but I'd counter that it's still entirely possible to like the performers and like the matches, and still be disappointed in the ways in which certain talent are utilized/presented and the way in which stories are told (or not told, in far too many instances).
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Post by Essential1 on Mar 6, 2015 23:19:18 GMT -5
This thread should be reworded "Is it the products fault the network sucks?"
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Post by Some Guy on Mar 6, 2015 23:22:03 GMT -5
This thread should be reworded "Is it the products fault the network sucks?" Nah, it's not the current product's fault that the company is too f***ing lazy to put out hundreds of Raws, Smackdowns, Heat, Jakked, Velocity, Thunder, Confidential, NXT, OVW, FCW and so much more.
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Post by kevin on Mar 6, 2015 23:59:54 GMT -5
I could not disagree more about the WWE sucking. It is by far and away the best thing on TV. There is not even a close second.
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Post by kevin on Mar 7, 2015 0:09:22 GMT -5
I could not disagree more about the WWE sucking. It is by far and away the best thing on TV. There is not even a close second. I have to ask: in your opinion, what WOULD be a close second? Hmm well right now I really like Sleepy Hollow, The flash, Arrow, Hells Kitchen, agent Carter, Marvel agents of Shield, and I Am a huge Sports fan mainly NFL. Probably the best show ever was THE West Wing before season 5.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2015 0:19:32 GMT -5
I have to ask: in your opinion, what WOULD be a close second? Hmm well right now I really like Sleepy Hollow, The flash, Arrow, Hells Kitchen, agent Carter, Marvel agents of Shield, and I Am a huge Sports fan mainly NFL. Probably the best show ever was THE West Wing before season 5. Gordon Ramsay should host RAW. That's money right there!
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