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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2015 12:23:09 GMT -5
I could see if this was Smackdown: Know Your Role back on the Playstation where someone could attack you backstage, steal your title and somehow the game acknowledges them as the new champion (**** you Rikishi) Eventually I got savvy enough to know when it was coming, so I'd always lose the match on purpose so my reign would continue. Now you tell me.
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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on Mar 7, 2015 12:29:42 GMT -5
It's a storyline for kids. Unfortunately, it's a storyline for kids that involves their secondary title and that builds up what should be the main match on the midcard at the biggest show of the year. Triple H is not booking this, this is Vince's hollywood writers and yes men. I can't wait until they all bite the dust. Might just be why it's the only match with potential. No Authority. Full of talented workers who carry the day to day. No one talking about how great Trips is. No Stephanie run down the competitors. No Big Show or Kane. Truth is the only thing that was around in the attitude era and that was just barely. Tell me again why stuff that Trips is involved in on the main show is better?
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Mar 7, 2015 12:38:34 GMT -5
I see it like "here's the match with all these people that people like but Vince isn't really in to. and we put in Truth to make Vince laugh." If Vince loves R-Truth so much, why don't they actually push him so that his involvement doesn't feel so awkward
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Mar 7, 2015 12:44:43 GMT -5
The only real problem is the belt involved, because it's meant to be the second title from the biggest. If it was any other belt I'd be totally on board. I'd rather have a dumb storyline than no storyline.
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Post by abjordans on Mar 7, 2015 13:00:44 GMT -5
R-Truth should be given a lot of credit, he has a pretty tough job. Several times over his long run, he is asked to come off the bench when they need to patch a hole, and he always knocks it out of the park. I just don't think a lot of guy on the roster could do that.
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Mar 7, 2015 13:17:52 GMT -5
R-Truth has been wildly entertaining, and the eventual match is going to be great, so being that I'm not a jive turkey, I'm really enjoying it. I will actually fight anyone that is not willing to accept R-Truth as their new IC Title overlord. Short film = 5+ Stars. I'm sold.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2015 13:26:27 GMT -5
I see it like "here's the match with all these people that people like but Vince isn't really in to. and we put in Truth to make Vince laugh." If Vince loves R-Truth so much, why don't they actually push him so that his involvement doesn't feel so awkward He's like babies, apes, snowcones. Things Vince loves, but knows we can't have all the time.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Mar 7, 2015 13:27:44 GMT -5
I have no problem with the concept. I have a problem with R-Truth being in it when he hasn't been relevant in 4 years. This. Bryan, Ziggler, Ambrose, and to a lesser extent Barrett (he hasn't been relevant in forever either, but he carries himself like a star) could do big things with that belt, but R-Truth's very presence just negates all of that. While R-Truth isn't a straight up jobber like Ryder or someone like that, at least you could make a "Cinderella Story" out of a pure jobber. If WWE treated Truth the same way they treat the likes of Sheamus and Miz where they still sorta kinda pretend he's still "important", there would be no problem with him being in the match, but Truth is just too "midcard-y" for this match and only serves to drag down the other people in it rather than him being pushed up to their level. I think the fans would resent the idea of Bryan, Ziggler and Ambrose chasing the midcard title a whole lot less, if Truth were removed from the match and replaced with a "name" talent like Sheamus or Ryback. And then he does that and the internet starts threads about how this is just yet more evidence of how much of an evil racist Vince is. And someone replies that just putting Truth in the match is evidence of how much of an evil racist Vince is. And they all fight with each other even though they both just said that Vince is an evil racist.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Mar 7, 2015 13:32:18 GMT -5
This. Bryan, Ziggler, Ambrose, and to a lesser extent Barrett (he hasn't been relevant in forever either, but he carries himself like a star) could do big things with that belt, but R-Truth's very presence just negates all of that. While R-Truth isn't a straight up jobber like Ryder or someone like that, at least you could make a "Cinderella Story" out of a pure jobber. If WWE treated Truth the same way they treat the likes of Sheamus and Miz where they still sorta kinda pretend he's still "important", there would be no problem with him being in the match, but Truth is just too "midcard-y" for this match and only serves to drag down the other people in it rather than him being pushed up to their level. I think the fans would resent the idea of Bryan, Ziggler and Ambrose chasing the midcard title a whole lot less, if Truth were removed from the match and replaced with a "name" talent like Sheamus or Ryback. And then he does that and the internet starts threads about how this is just yet more evidence of how much of an evil racist Vince is. And someone replies that just putting Truth in the match is evidence of how much of an evil racist Vince is. And they all fight with each other even though they both just said that Vince is an evil racist. I would've said Mark Henry if he wasn't perenially injured. Vince is an "evil racist" because the company barely pushes black stars all year and then just puts "his favorite one" in what should be a big WM match, just for the sake of having a black guy on the card.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Mar 7, 2015 13:34:25 GMT -5
R-Truth has been wildly entertaining, and the eventual match is going to be great, so being that I'm not a jive turkey, I'm really enjoying it. Seriously, Truth has been the best part of this build easily. No idea how anybody could say he shouldn't be in there.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Mar 7, 2015 13:37:16 GMT -5
And then he does that and the internet starts threads about how this is just yet more evidence of how much of an evil racist Vince is. And someone replies that just putting Truth in the match is evidence of how much of an evil racist Vince is. And they all fight with each other even though they both just said that Vince is an evil racist. Vince is an "evil racist" because the company barely pushes black stars all year and then just puts "his favorite one" in what should be a big WM match, just for the sake of having a black guy on the card. Somebody skipped the first step and moved right on to the second step.
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Post by Apricots And A Pear Tree on Mar 7, 2015 14:06:18 GMT -5
This WM buildup is dumb as hell.
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Post by Zenengage on Mar 7, 2015 14:34:45 GMT -5
This angle has been the first time R-Truth has been entertaining since his run as a heel, so I'm kinda glad he's there.
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Post by freeze Austin on Mar 7, 2015 15:34:05 GMT -5
R-Truth has been wildly entertaining, and the eventual match is going to be great, so being that I'm not a jive turkey, I'm really enjoying it. Seriously, Truth has been the best part of this build easily. No idea how anybody could say he shouldn't be in there. I can see it from the argument that he's been irrelevant for so long and might bring the status of some of the guys in the match down, but let's face it, Vince is the one hurting their status and ability to be a draw a lot more than R-Truth is by merely being in this match. Truth is at least adding some fun to the match, something WWE needs more of in The Reality Error. I don't mind him being some kind of random sideshow. I'll only be upset if he wins, the title isn't elevated, and Ambrose, Bryan and Ziggler continue to be treated as glorified enhancement talent in meaningless segments and matches to put over "the real stars" when they have earned better.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Mar 7, 2015 15:50:01 GMT -5
Seriously, Truth has been the best part of this build easily. No idea how anybody could say he shouldn't be in there. I can see it from the argument that he's been irrelevant for so long and might bring the status of some of the guys in the match down, but let's face it, Vince is the one hurting their status and ability to be a draw a lot more than R-Truth is by merely being in this match. Truth is at least adding some fun to the match, something WWE needs more of in The Reality Error. I don't mind him being some kind of random sideshow. I'll only be upset if he wins, the title isn't elevated, and Ambrose, Bryan and Ziggler continue to be treated as glorified enhancement talent in meaningless segments and matches to put over "the real stars" when they have earned better. Ambrose could've done all the "fun and wackiness" on his own. If "comedy characters" had to be thrown into the match to make it "fun", I would've thrown The Miz (and by association Mizdow) into this story instead.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Mar 7, 2015 16:13:06 GMT -5
Truth has been entertaining. I've just seen this kind of storyline way too many times in TNA and it's as dumb here as it was there.
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Post by chazraps on Mar 7, 2015 16:16:51 GMT -5
We really need to ban the word "irrelevant" on this board.
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Post by freeze Austin on Mar 7, 2015 16:25:58 GMT -5
We really need to ban the word "irrelevant" on this board. Would "obscure" work better? Concealed? Unseen? Without story or purpose? Dancing with Woods, doing the job, and then heading backstage to smoke a cig and talk to Tyson Kidd about their love of cats and spiders? I mean I enjoy the guy, but how else is there to describe the way he's been used for several years?
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Post by PsychoGoatee on Mar 7, 2015 16:34:13 GMT -5
I've really enjoyed it, it's been fun and it should be a highlight of WrestleMania this year. I wanted DB vs DZ, we'll get that, plus Ambrose in the mix along with some other entertaining folks.
That said, on Smackdown this week it started to feel like a repeat of the schtick they've been doing, so if they just do the same thing for the next three weeks that'll be dull. So I guess we'll see how they book these next few weeks. My guess is this week they'll officially solidify DB as the final entrant. Then in the last couple weeks they could focus more on the feud between DB and DZ, plus how Ambrose is really hell bent on winning. And also Truth being awesome.
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Post by garcimore on Mar 7, 2015 19:23:43 GMT -5
It's so dumb and the fact that i know the match gonna be awesome that I love it.
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