Brock being in both WWE and UFC

[OVO 40 hunched over like he 80]

Heyman's promo got me thinking. Brock has this mystique, he's a huge attraction, I don't think it would be wise for the wwe to part away from him and not keeping him on the roster, I know its a longshot but in order to increase his mainstream appeal, Vince should let him go to the UFC.

Dana has said that once Brock's contract ends that he should call him and return to the UFC, but he's in no position to demand such things, it can be said that the UFC needs Brock more than Brock needs them. Hell their ppv's are suffering, they haven't even break the 300 thousand mark in a long time, Lesnar would definitely be the boost they need.

Now I don't know if Lesnar is training on his free time, I haven't heard of the Deathclutch team reforming, or his old training partners like Pat Barry going to Minnesota to train with him. So I don't know if he's in octagon shape. There's a huge vacuum on the heavyweight division, and its champion Cain Velasquez gets hurt a lot, maybe if he returns Brock could be matched up against Fabricio Werdum, their interim champion.

If The Rock got the belt while still being focused on Hollywood and only being a part timer, why can't they cut the same deal with Brock, f*** he would be a crossover star

[kidglov3s]

Dave Meltzer would also like to say that yknow he could go to Bellator.

[Vice honcho room temperature]

Mar 10, 2015 13:24:17 GMT -5 kidglov3s said:

Dave Meltzer would also like to say that yknow he could go to Bellator.

Yeah and he could go to TNA too but we live in a world where fantasies don't come true.

[TWERKIN' MAGGLE]

UFC's "not competition" though. For WWE, "not competition" means something different than anywhere else.

[Perd]

I don't know shit about UFC. But am I wrong in thinking, that if Brock goes back and fights someone good, he's probably going to get his ass kicked? Or was his health a big player in his struggles his last few fights?

[kidglov3s]

Mar 10, 2015 13:34:01 GMT -5 Vice honcho room temperature said:

Mar 10, 2015 13:24:17 GMT -5 kidglov3s said:

Dave Meltzer would also like to say that yknow he could go to Bellator.

Yeah and he could go to TNA too but we live in a world where fantasies don't come true.

But.... Dave just.... wanted to put it out there.... Brock might.... yknow... go to Bellator.

[Kevin Hamilton]

Mar 10, 2015 13:35:49 GMT -5 Perd said:

I don't know shit about UFC. But am I wrong in thinking, that if Brock goes back and fights someone good, he's probably going to get his ass kicked? Or was his health a big player in his struggles his last few fights?

He nearly died, or at least could've. Couple that with Cain being probably the best heavyweight in the world and Reem being roided to the gills, and it's a factor.

Granted, Brock's striking defense was never great, but dual bouts of diverticulitis is no joke.

[Vice honcho room temperature]

Mar 10, 2015 13:41:47 GMT -5 Kevin Hamilton said:

Mar 10, 2015 13:35:49 GMT -5 Perd said:

I don't know shit about UFC. But am I wrong in thinking, that if Brock goes back and fights someone good, he's probably going to get his ass kicked? Or was his health a big player in his struggles his last few fights?

He nearly died, or at least could've. Couple that with Cain being probably the best heavyweight in the world and Reem being roided to the gills, and it's a factor.

Granted, Brock's striking defense was never great, but dual bouts of diverticulitis is no joke.

Also hurt his growth as a fighter because instead of sparing in the gym and honing his weak spots he had to just get his strength back.

[OVO 40 hunched over like he 80]

Mar 10, 2015 13:41:47 GMT -5 Kevin Hamilton said:

Mar 10, 2015 13:35:49 GMT -5 Perd said:

I don't know shit about UFC. But am I wrong in thinking, that if Brock goes back and fights someone good, he's probably going to get his ass kicked? Or was his health a big player in his struggles his last few fights?

He nearly died, or at least could've. Couple that with Cain being probably the best heavyweight in the world and Reem being roided to the gills, and it's a factor.

Granted, Brock's striking defense was never great, but dual bouts of diverticulitis is no joke.

Well the landscape is different know, most of their top tier talent have fallen on hard times, take Overeem who's know fighting for his job and Bigfoot post TRT he's a shell of his former self. Junior Dos Santos also has seen better days. Brock could slip through the cracks, idk how he would fare against Cain, but I think he could still be a force on that division.

[molson5]

They'll book him against someone he can beat like Frank Mir. I don't think Lesnar is a championship contender anymore, but who knows, maybe his poor performances in his last few fights were all illness related. If there's one division an older guy can make a run, it's Heavyweight.

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How do you book Brock in WWE if he gets destroyed in UFC though? How does UFC go if Brock gets hurt in WWE?

It's a great fantasy idea but practicalities would stop it.

[KobashiChop]

With respect to Brocks diverticulitis, his UFC losses cannot be pinned directly to that. Overeem had him matched for strength and size plus he had an unreal advantage in stand up. Go watch that fight, Overeem has zero respect for Brock as a striker.

Velasquez had the wrestling to deal with Brocks takedowns. Brock lost those fights because of how understandably one dimensional he is. If he can't maintain top position or grossly oversize a guy, he is at a disadvantage.

[kidglov3s]

Mar 10, 2015 13:53:17 GMT -5 @ihateeverything said:

How do you book Brock in WWE if he gets destroyed in UFC though? How does UFC go if Brock gets hurt in WWE?

It's a great fantasy idea but practicalities would stop it.

It's irrelevant. Even in WWE, Brock looking not-great in the HHH stuff, losing to Cena, wasting time with Big Show didn't prevent him from getting on his current hot streak. In WWE Brock is always a monster, even if he might get tapped by Jake Shields in WSOF.

[Kevin Hamilton]

Reem was also on like 4 times testosterone.

Cain is just the top guy.

[MrBRulzOK]

It'll never happen.

Not in a million, trillion years.

Vince would never let somebody he has under contract go anywhere else, especially an environment where he can't control the outcome or how Brock comes out looking. Not to mention there's always the risk of him getting injured which makes it kind of difficult to plan anything for the future with the guy.

[Raskovnik]

Lesnar is tough, no doubt, but a large amount of it is memetic and people buying into the hype and mystique his current run has created for him. I'd put money on him getting his ass kicked should he ever return to UFC, which is why I think he should stay in the WWE. It's the easiest money for him, and he doesn't get pounded.

[Allie Kitsune]

Mar 10, 2015 15:56:39 GMT -5 Raskovnik said:

Lesnar is tough, no doubt, but a large amount of it is memetic and people buying into the hype and mystique his current run has created for him. I'd put money on him getting his ass kicked should he ever return to UFC, which is why I think he should stay in the WWE. It's the easiest money for him, and he doesn't get pounded.

Pretty much. Brock looks like a killer in WWE because, booking aside, nobody else has that "I hurt people in UFC" credibility. An older Brock going back and trying to make up for lost time, and his previous health issues (even if they're mostly behind him) just kind of destroys the image he has built up should he eat the mat or get tapped. Brock probably doesn't care too much about that image, but should he be open to coming back to the E again afterward, his value will be diminished.

["Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay]

I love Brock and will always love seeing him wrestle, but given that WWE has booked him to godhood, if he loses the belt there's not really anything more he can do. He's an eater of worlds. He loses the belt, the character is basically a dead end. If you kept him off TV again until Summerslam you might have an 'oh shit' moment but that only really works if he loses to a heel that he then later puts over clean to solidify him.