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Post by AdamAFL was sooooo wrong on Mar 17, 2015 10:36:51 GMT -5
Is it just me or has Impact been really quite enjoyable of late? When they first debuted on Destination America I was happy to see them back but the booking of the first couple of shows sucked any goodwill they'd built up whilst off the air. Recently though (pretty much since the very poor Lockdown episode) I've really been enjoying the show. I am invested in the angles from competition based stuff (Lashley/Angle) to hate based stuff (ECIII/Spud, Magnus/Bram, EY/Roode) and even the stupid yet entertaining stuff (Brooke/Robbie E). I know it's a dangerous thing to say round these parts and since it is TNA I'm sure they'll screw this up sooner rather than later but I am really enjoying the shows lately.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Mar 17, 2015 11:58:16 GMT -5
I personally think that there is plenty of issues with the show but it's not horrible. In fact, there's a decent amount of stuff that I enjoy. ECIII and Spud was the best feud in wrestling (although, I would assume that's over now) and I'm interested in Angle/Lashley (I'm not interested in the inevitable end result but hey, what can you do? Network obligations and all that). Bram/Magnus is also a good feud where I'm looking forward to the conclusion.
So, I would call it hit or miss. Some shows are enjoyable/fun and other shows are pretty rotten. That said, the overall product is a step-up from their Spike days, that's for sure. They always seem to step up their game when they tape shows overseas so I'm sure that has something to do with the improved product right now.
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Post by AdamAFL was sooooo wrong on Mar 17, 2015 12:03:05 GMT -5
I personally think that there is plenty of issues with the show but it's not horrible. In fact, there's a decent amount of stuff that I enjoy. ECIII and Spud was the best feud in wrestling (although, I would assume that's over now) and I'm interested in Angle/Lashley (I'm not interested in the inevitable end result but hey, what can you do? Network obligations and all that). Bram/Magnus is also a good feud where I'm looking forward to the conclusion. So, I would call it hit or miss. Some shows are enjoyable/fun and other shows are pretty rotten. That said, the overall product is a step-up from their Spike days, that's for sure. They always seem to step up their game when they tape shows overseas so I'm sure that has something to do with the improved product right now. That's very true I must admit. Most of these shows I have really enjoyed have been the UK tour shows and they tend to be some of the best of the year. The product as a whole is just in a good place right now though. Not in an, "oh my god this is such a golden age for TNA" way but more in a "I enjoy the show every week and it is a solid outing every time" way which, sadly, is an achievement in modern day pro wrestling. I am waiting for the show where the wheels fall off though. You can always pinpoint exactly where the wheels falls off in TNA. After the great end to 2009 it was the Jan 4 2010 show where the wheels fell off, after the great March to August 2012 it was the Impact following Hardcore Justice where the wheels fell off. It may be unfair to not give them a chance and say I'm waiting for that show in 2015 but TNA's burned me so many times in the past that I have zero faith in them to not screw a good thing up.
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Post by HMARK Center on Mar 17, 2015 16:15:06 GMT -5
I've basically felt that ever since they lost Aces and Eights, and ever since they started getting Dixie off screen (though the less said about the angle to get her off TV, the better), TNA's at least been in a better direction than it has been than any point since basically the first few months after Hogan's debut.
That's not to say late 2013/early 2014 to now has been perfect: far from it. But they've slowly began rebuilding as a company in terms of who's on top of the card, scaling things back, trimming some fat (Angle and the Hardys as the only "old guys" around in terms of TV age isn't the end of the world), and focusing more on presenting things in the ring instead of via long ass boring promos.
Again, that all sounds better than I mean it: I haven't watched every week during that time, and in fact just recently got bored and didn't watch for a month. But I've now watched the last few episodes, and it's definitely better; they actually have feuds that don't involve belts, which is pretty remarkable for modern TV wrestling, and now they're even signing a few new indy names who'll get a chance on TV, which is cool.
So yeah, no guarantees, and hopefully the wheels don't fall off again soon, but right now TNA is putting on a downright decent show.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Mar 17, 2015 16:28:58 GMT -5
Hit and miss is probably the best way to put it. There are bits I like for sure. Loving ECIII's stuff, Bram/Magnus, Batshit Crazy EY and, James Storm (not so much the group though) while I cannot stand Angle getting any focus and. I like the signing of Drew Galloway but having him redo MVP's debut angle doesn't sit well with me. I am also loving the production stuff they are trying. There is something about not having major shows to build to that has given TNA a freedom on how to book things which is refreshing as well. There is no more "We have to be at "A" by "B"" and they are building things better because of it.
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Post by Chip Chipperson on Mar 17, 2015 16:52:27 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{Spoiler}Spoiler Warning. Don't click unless you read spoilers {Spoiler}{Spoiler} {Spoiler} Everything tends to repeat itself in the world of TNA. Last year we had Team Dixie Vs Team MVP and now we have Team Drew Vs Team MVP. Same guys in featured positions like Angle, Hardy's, EY and we still have the rushed heel turns that make no sense, the gimmick matches being tossed out seemingly every week, wrestlers who quite frankly are past their prime (Abyss, MVP, Matt Hardy, Storm, Anderson, Tyrus) or wrestlers who probably shouldn't be on a national product (Chris Melendez, Crazzy Steve, Khoya, Knux)
TNA needs to give the audience something different and 46 year old Kurt Angle leading the charge with the Hardy Boys who are nearing 40 as the supporting characters isn't good. They need a roster overhaul and a change in the back office or they will continue to drop and continue to put out a product that caters simply to the IWC who will watch anything.
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Post by Emmet Russell on Mar 17, 2015 17:30:01 GMT -5
They usually put on good shows in the UK, and they haven't disappointed - there's been some really solid shows.
Once they get back to America, though ... I am expected VINTAGE TNA to make it's return.
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Post by Mozenrath on Mar 17, 2015 17:35:40 GMT -5
They're improving somewhat, but I think the fundamental problems they've had are still there in varying degrees. I don't think we need like 12 stables, for one.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Mar 19, 2015 9:36:37 GMT -5
Compare to the last couple of months of their run on Spike, airing 2 hours of a static screen would be an improvement. I feel meh about the current shows due to it feeling not fresh. Not to say there aren't some bright spots (EC3 vs Spud without the unnecessary people involved, Lashley when not talking) but a little too much deja vu.
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Post by Indiana Miz on Mar 20, 2015 11:45:36 GMT -5
The thin roster is my biggest problem with the show these days. It feels like we see the same matches over and over again with slight variations.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2015 21:08:42 GMT -5
Watching Impact the last few weeks, they have a lot of angles going on and they're building up/giving away some pretty big matches on TV. For what TNA has become, they're doing a decent job with it right now.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Mar 20, 2015 22:16:07 GMT -5
Watching Impact the last few weeks, they have a lot of angles going on and they're building up/giving away some pretty big matches on TV. For what TNA has become, they're doing a decent job with it right now. Well, they really don't have live PPVs anymore so giving away matches on free tv is not that big of a deal as it used to be.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2015 22:21:11 GMT -5
Watching Impact the last few weeks, they have a lot of angles going on and they're building up/giving away some pretty big matches on TV. For what TNA has become, they're doing a decent job with it right now. Well, they really don't have live PPVs anymore so giving away matches on free tv is not that big of a deal as it used to be. That's true, but they could still take a while and build up to a "spcial episode" or something for a match like Angle/Lashley. Instead, they set it up and did it within 3 weeks. That's how they operate now, makes for good week to week TV but I'd say it leads to burnout and eventual resets, and in the end the company is always sort of re-finding itself.
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Post by Slingshot Suplay on Mar 20, 2015 23:55:30 GMT -5
Impact has been good for a while now.
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Post by Sephiroth on Mar 21, 2015 0:01:41 GMT -5
They've moved in a better direction, but many of the fundamental flaws are still there. I'd like to see them try bringing in some newer talent, but that is probably outside their price range.
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Post by JTG Fan on Mar 21, 2015 8:46:48 GMT -5
The matches and storylines are generally okay, but I can't get over how low rent and unimportant everything seems. Seeing Angle made me think back to his last TNA title win in 2011 on PPV and it doesn't even seem like the same company. They went from WCW in the early 1990s to ECW circling the drain in 2000.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Mar 21, 2015 9:17:28 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}Spoiler Warning. Don't click unless you read spoilers {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler} {Spoiler} Everything tends to repeat itself in the world of TNA. Last year we had Team Dixie Vs Team MVP and now we have Team Drew Vs Team MVP. Same guys in featured positions like Angle, Hardy's, EY and we still have the rushed heel turns that make no sense, the gimmick matches being tossed out seemingly every week, wrestlers who quite frankly are past their prime (Abyss, MVP, Matt Hardy, Storm, Anderson, Tyrus) or wrestlers who probably shouldn't be on a national product (Chris Melendez, Crazzy Steve, Khoya, Knux)
TNA needs to give the audience something different and 46 year old Kurt Angle leading the charge with the Hardy Boys who are nearing 40 as the supporting characters isn't good. They need a roster overhaul and a change in the back office or they will continue to drop and continue to put out a product that caters simply to the IWC who will watch anything. That the thing about it though. People keep saying that but mean while the WWE the biggest company in the world is doing the same thing to sell WM. I mean what match as WM been center around again? Sting vs. HHH. Then the fact Taker is featured in one of the other big matches. So three guys so far headlining WM I name two are 50+ and one is mid 40s. Brock and Reigns is getting no love. The problem is that TNA can't afford the best talent. I mean they couldn't resign or offer Joe and Styles who both at this point SHOULD been there one and two and they wouldn't see Hardy, Angle or anybody a better contract. Had they invested less on this HUGE names and signed the next big star instead. Keep in mind they had Dean Ambrose in a tryout match. They HAD CM Punk and pissed him away. They even had the Briscoes for a match one of the best tag teams period in the indies in the last decade. The only major indies guy they didn't have that came from the same ROH era was Daniel Bryan. Yet they still missed the boat in everyone of them but AJ and still didn't use AJ right because he should never been pushed down the card like he was. TNA booking to consistently push a guy is one of the worst. That really a problem with both companies in creating a a new star. How many times the WWE did the same thing with Kofi Kingston. Look at Dolph Ziggler who had a huge Survivor Series moment and went NOWHERE with it. Both companies seem to ride a star until the wheel fall out so to speak.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Mar 21, 2015 11:04:56 GMT -5
I've generally been enjoying Impact these days, it's just that TNA is becoming less and less self aware and it's hard not to snicker at them.
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Post by Ken: The Hero of WWE on Mar 21, 2015 12:21:56 GMT -5
TNA has been putting out some decent enough shows since joining Destination America but there are still some noticeably problems. The production team, Kurt Angle as a main event talent, and the incredibly stupid BroMans vs. Brooke feud have to go.
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Post by chrom on Mar 21, 2015 17:26:39 GMT -5
Trust me, as someone with a lot of experience of watching it look like TNA will turn the corner, do yourself a favor and count to five. 'Cause once you hit five, expect something idiotic to happen. That's how things go there.
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