FAR5222
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Post by FAR5222 on Mar 19, 2015 20:41:36 GMT -5
The interview was conducted with IGN. Jericho is very out of touch in the interview. Besides the Reigns stuff he finds what he did with Wyatt some of his best work. All the workers defending Reigns say he's over at house shows but what about Raw? The people who pay more to watch Raw live aren't considered in the pool of how over someone is? When you go on WWEShop Reigns is like #9 on the superstars list, Dean Ambrose is number 3 after Brock Lesnar and John Cena. It's ridiculous some keep blaming Bryan. WWE booked that Rumble poorly and they booked Reigns terribly from the night he cut that promo at TLC through the Rumble build. They have only booked Reigns to his strengths in the last few weeks. It's too late with one week left and all this brewing since last July. link for the rest. m.ign.com/articles/2015/03/20/chris-jericho-to-roman-reigns-haters-shut-the-hell-up
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Post by Starshine on Mar 19, 2015 20:42:46 GMT -5
The more I hear from Jericho, the less and less I like him.
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4TheGlory
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Post by 4TheGlory on Mar 19, 2015 20:45:34 GMT -5
Another person incorrectly blaming Bryan for the negative heat on Roman currently.
There's alot of guys just as deserving as Bryan that could be in Roman's spot and not be getting half as much negative heat as Reigns.
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the2ndevil
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Post by the2ndevil on Mar 19, 2015 20:47:30 GMT -5
At first, I thought the thread title was the epitome of click bait… then I saw the actual link.
Good Lord.
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4TheGlory
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Post by 4TheGlory on Mar 19, 2015 20:50:16 GMT -5
And Reigns as zero point in his career was "everybody's" favorite.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Mar 19, 2015 20:52:02 GMT -5
The interview was conducted with IGN. Jericho is very out of touch in the interview. Besides the Reigns stuff he finds what he did with Wyatt some of his best work. All the workers defending Reigns say he's over at house shows but what about Raw? The people who pay more to watch Raw live aren't considered in the pool of how over someone is? When you go on WWEShop Reigns is like #9 on the superstars list, Dean Ambrose is number 3 after Brock Lesnar and John Cena. It's ridiculous some keep blaming Bryan. WWE booked that Rumble poorly and they booked Reigns terribly from the night at he returned at TLC through the Rumble build. They have only booked Reigns to his strengths in the last few weeks. It's too late with one week left and all this brewing since last July. link for the rest. m.ign.com/articles/2015/03/20/chris-jericho-to-roman-reigns-haters-shut-the-hell-upAndre The Giant is #2 on the legends list and doesn't even have any merchandise. So I don't think that means all that much
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FAR5222
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Post by FAR5222 on Mar 19, 2015 20:53:32 GMT -5
The interview was conducted with IGN. Jericho is very out of touch in the interview. Besides the Reigns stuff he finds what he did with Wyatt some of his best work. All the workers defending Reigns say he's over at house shows but what about Raw? The people who pay more to watch Raw live aren't considered in the pool of how over someone is? When you go on WWEShop Reigns is like #9 on the superstars list, Dean Ambrose is number 3 after Brock Lesnar and John Cena. It's ridiculous some keep blaming Bryan. WWE booked that Rumble poorly and they booked Reigns terribly from the night at he returned at TLC through the Rumble build. They have only booked Reigns to his strengths in the last few weeks. It's too late with one week left and all this brewing since last July. link for the rest. m.ign.com/articles/2015/03/20/chris-jericho-to-roman-reigns-haters-shut-the-hell-upAndre The Giant is #2 on the legends list and doesn't even have any merchandise. So I don't think that means all that much The current superstars list always changes I think it's important. Ambrose is moving merch far and beyond Reigns according to the list that. It needs some thought.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Mar 19, 2015 20:54:36 GMT -5
Andre The Giant is #2 on the legends list and doesn't even have any merchandise. So I don't think that means all that much The current superstars list always changes I think it's important. Ambrose is moving merch far and beyond Reigns according to the list that. It needs some thought. So do you think that Seth Rollins, Bray Wyatt, and Dolph Ziggler all move more merch than Daniel Bryan?
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Post by lionheart21 on Mar 19, 2015 20:56:49 GMT -5
For the most part, I actually agree with Jericho, but I can't agree with him on the crowd reaction. We know how that crowd is gonna be, and its not gonna be anything like the crowds that they have been getting.
If Reigns wins and the crowd revolts, I could see them tossing Rollins out there to cash in just to try to quell the crowd.
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FAR5222
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Post by FAR5222 on Mar 19, 2015 20:57:44 GMT -5
The current superstars list always changes I think it's important. Ambrose is moving merch far and beyond Reigns according to the list that. It needs some thought. So do you think that Seth Rollins, Bray Wyatt, and Dolph Ziggler all move more merch than Daniel Bryan? Probably. Bryan was 2-4 during his rise in the summer/fall of 2013 through Mania 30. Then injury happened so maybe he doesn't sell that much like he use to.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2015 20:57:59 GMT -5
The question was very innocuous, just a "is Reigns ready?" type of question nothing to lead him to go on a big rant about how he is right and the fans are wrong. I wonder if he'd had a couple of glasses of 'pop' before the interview. Jericho certainly has a chip on his shoulder about the fanbase that comes to the surface when hes been feeling 'tired and emotional'.
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Post by BorneAgain on Mar 19, 2015 20:58:32 GMT -5
Sheamus got a lot of boos by people displeased with his booking against Bryan, but got cheers soon enough because there was something about him, either through booking or his own talents that got people interested.
The presentation of Roman Reigns has not had that. Roman, to a lot of people, comes across as a guy not ready for the Mania spot, not close to an equal to Brock, and not particularly great in one area to make this whole push worthwhile. And the more the company over the top shills how much a powerful superstar he is, the more various fans are going to be driven to boo him out of resentment for what they perceive as being told what to think.
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Post by 01010010 01101001 01100011 on Mar 19, 2015 20:58:55 GMT -5
Once again Jericho shows how damned out of touch he is with reality.
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FAR5222
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Post by FAR5222 on Mar 19, 2015 21:01:28 GMT -5
The question was very innocuous, just a "is Reigns ready?" type of question nothing to lead him to go on a big rant about how he is right and the fans are wrong. I wonder if he'd had a couple of glasses of 'pop' before the interview. Jericho certainly has a chip on his shoulder about the fanbase that comes to the surface when hes been feeling 'tired and emotional'. He's been salty recently because of how people online react to his returns and his programs.
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Crappler El 0 M
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Mar 19, 2015 21:02:17 GMT -5
Jericho pretty much hates it when fans criticize or react negatively to things. He sometimes puts his foot in his mouth.
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Post by xCompackx on Mar 19, 2015 21:02:39 GMT -5
Andre The Giant is #2 on the legends list and doesn't even have any merchandise. So I don't think that means all that much The current superstars list always changes I think it's important. Ambrose is moving merch far and beyond Reigns according to the list that. It needs some thought. I sorta view merchandise sales similarly to how I view viewer ratings: it's not really an accurate show of who's popular because a lot of factors go into it. Shirt designs, price, and availability at merchandise stands can all affect how much gets sold even without considering how popular the guy/girl is. Listening to the crowds is a far better indicator, but we all know how great Vince is at that. About Jericho's comment itself though, while I don't agree that Roman was everybody's favorite (since nobody ever is), it's kind of hard to dispute that he'd be getting cheered a lot more if the Royal Rumble didn't go the way it did.
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Post by gr1990 on Mar 19, 2015 21:02:42 GMT -5
Very sad for someone who I once considered one of the smarter minds in the business sound so out of touch. He's reached JR/Jim Cornette status 20 years too early.
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Post by 01010010 01101001 01100011 on Mar 19, 2015 21:04:50 GMT -5
Jericho pretty much hates it when fans criticize or react negatively to things. He sometimes puts his foot in his mouth. He is also constantly working (lying) to people about everything involving his wrestling career so his opinion is worth less than your typical troll.
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Post by Slammy Award-Winning Cannibal on Mar 19, 2015 21:05:47 GMT -5
Once again Jericho shows how damned out of touch he is with reality. Are you saying is that he's out of touch with the philosophy that it takes two people to make a great match?
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Crappler El 0 M
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Mar 19, 2015 21:07:07 GMT -5
Very sad for someone who I once considered one of the smarter minds in the business sound so out of touch. He's reached JR/Jim Cornette status 20 years too early. He was like this in the early 2000s. In a completely different context, he bitched about how a lot of moviegoers complained online about Attack of the Clones. Chris just gave off such a sour attitude toward these people. With the passage of time, the critics of the movie look to be in the right on this one. You could tell it really ate at Jericho that there were fans criticizing it. There was another time a few years later when Jericho bitched at the fans for criticizing (or not praising) a match he had with RVD. For some reason he just hates it when fans are negative or when they speak out about something. Recently Jericho got into it again with Tweets about Bill DeMott and he got into a little spat with Derrick Bateman.
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