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Post by Psy on Apr 11, 2015 17:05:56 GMT -5
Yes. Paul McCartney is in the Shining. Not the big-budget version though. The made-for-TV version. Ringo was initially cast but couldn't do it because he came down with a case of "cannotcatchabreakitis".
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Post by angryfan on Apr 11, 2015 19:23:22 GMT -5
Yes. Paul McCartney is in the Shining. Not the big-budget version though. The made-for-TV version. Ringo was initially cast but couldn't do it because he came down with a case of "cannotcatchabreakitis". Ah yes, the made for TV version, where Nicholson's character was replaced by one of the guys from Wings.
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Post by Juice on Apr 11, 2015 20:36:19 GMT -5
So many people give the Tv version of the Shining shit, but the Kubrick version f***ed a lot up too that is overlooked because Nicholson is just awesome in about everything.
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Apr 11, 2015 20:44:22 GMT -5
I prefer Kubrick's, but my mother and sisters swear by the TV version. My mother taped the TV miniseries and rewatched it a lot. I ended up buying the DVD set of the TV version for my mother and it's something she watches and shows to friends to this day. It's not bad, but I just can't put it in the league of the Kubrick movie.
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Post by Some Guy on Apr 11, 2015 21:02:49 GMT -5
Why do people keep saying Watchmen? An ending doesn't make the thing better. I liked the general idea of Manhattan doing it better, but the absolutely pathetic casting of Veidt destroyed the credibility of the film. And I say that as a guy who thinks Matthew Goode is a really good actor...just bothers me that Aaron Eckhart wasn't cast in the part.
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Apr 11, 2015 23:59:59 GMT -5
When ever I've tried to read Lord of the Rings I tap out when Tom Bombadil shows up. In short, Tom Bombadil can eat a dick And that's one of the things I was talking about ruining his own narrative. Everyone is tempted by the ring... except that one guy... because... reasons... If memory serves correct, he's sort of some ancient nature spirit.....who manifests as a jolly, hirsute, silly-ass fool.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Apr 12, 2015 1:38:25 GMT -5
And that's one of the things I was talking about ruining his own narrative. Everyone is tempted by the ring... except that one guy... because... reasons... Tom Bombadil I can sort of forgive given the nature of who he is. However, Faramir outright says he'd not use the ring even if he found it on the ground and helps Frodo and Sam on their way without hesitation or temptation. If memory serves correct, he's sort of some ancient nature spirit.....who manifests as a jolly, hirsute, silly-ass fool. He's a strange one, as he seems to exist outside of all the different classifications of beings in Tolkien's legendarium. He could be one of the Ainur, or a manifestation of the spirit of Middle-Earth itself, but it's never explained.
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Apr 12, 2015 1:49:54 GMT -5
Peter Jackson and his screenwriting team did a fine job of condensing the story, particularly with Fellowship, greatly reducing the amount of time in between Frodo receiving the ring and when Frodo and Sam depart with the ring and completely removing the Tom Bombadil scenes. These changes really help with the pacing of the story and gives the story more tension. I don't want to say the films are better than the book(s), but Jackson and his team did a great job adapting them. I was always fascinated by the Tom Bombadil character, seeing him as mysterious as the ring had no effect on him. However, he doesn't re-appear in a meaningful way for the rest of the book. He might get namedropped by Gandalf, but essentially he is no longer part of the story once the group leaves him. It's like there was a set-up that he could be part of the bigger picture later, but that wasn't the case.
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Post by Goldenbane on Apr 12, 2015 2:02:48 GMT -5
First Blood was a good deal better than the book, IMO. Even the author seems to think so.
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Apr 12, 2015 2:29:55 GMT -5
Yes. Paul McCartney is in the Shining. Not the big-budget version though. The made-for-TV version. Ringo was initially cast but couldn't do it because he came down with a case of "cannotcatchabreakitis". Ah yes, the made for TV version, where Nicholson's character was replaced by one of the guys from Wings. Wait, Paul McCartney starred in The Shining?
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Post by Juice on Apr 12, 2015 2:33:10 GMT -5
Why do people keep saying Watchmen? An ending doesn't make the thing better. I liked the general idea of Manhattan doing it better, but the absolutely pathetic casting of Veidt destroyed the credibility of the film. And I say that as a guy who thinks Matthew Goode is a really good actor...just bothers me that Aaron Eckhart wasn't cast in the part. I myself never understood this criticism and thought he did fine. The changed ending along with the absence of Black Freighter makes it better. The directors cut being my favorite version of the film.
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Post by Some Guy on Apr 12, 2015 9:40:30 GMT -5
Why do people keep saying Watchmen? An ending doesn't make the thing better. I liked the general idea of Manhattan doing it better, but the absolutely pathetic casting of Veidt destroyed the credibility of the film. And I say that as a guy who thinks Matthew Goode is a really good actor...just bothers me that Aaron Eckhart wasn't cast in the part. I myself never understood this criticism and thought he did fine. The changed ending along with the absence of Black Freighter makes it better. The directors cut being my favorite version of the film. Because the entire point of Veidt is that he's this amazing guy that just willingly murders millions to save billions. In the movie, he played him as a suspicious weasel. That is not Veidt at all.
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Post by angryfan on Apr 12, 2015 14:29:20 GMT -5
Ah yes, the made for TV version, where Nicholson's character was replaced by one of the guys from Wings. Wait, Paul McCartney starred in The Shining? Damn it, wrong Wings...oops.
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Post by Toxik916 on Apr 12, 2015 14:35:54 GMT -5
The Giver was a great book, but I really thought the movie did a better job of showing the city-state the story was based in
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Post by Saul Goodman on Apr 12, 2015 16:37:38 GMT -5
Forrest Gump the book is awful, the movie is a great movie. The writer of the book hated the movie, I think because he knew the movie was a lot better and Forrest was a lot more likeable in the movie. He becomes a pro wrestler in the book and his gimmick is of a dunce. He wears a dunce cap to the ring and his outfit is him wearing a giant diaper. He becomes the biggest pro wrestling star in his town with that gimmick and wins the title. Even though the book is set in the 70's, Forrest makes over $10,000 a week by wrestling. Jenny is in love with him in the book and Dan, Bubba and his mom are a lot different. Gump and Company is even worst than the first one.
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Post by agent817 on Apr 12, 2015 17:37:25 GMT -5
Anything by Mark Millar. Kick-Ass, Kingsmen... even Wanted, though the book had a much better premise. Though, kind of weirded out by Matthew Vaughn's fetish for tailors. "We have a book about super-villains ruling the world and a book about modern day James Bond Agents! "Meh" "What if we make them instead about killer weavers and tailors!" "BRILLIANT!" Well, I own all of the Kick-Ass books and while I enjoyed them, there were some aspects that made the stories a bit of a mess. I still think that the first Kick-Ass had an original concept behind Big Daddy's background, though it was still sort of messed up. So I think the movie version did that part of the character's background better. As for the other ones, well I still think that the second Kick-Ass book had much more disturbing aspects. I had more fun reading the Hit-Girl comic as opposed to Kick-Ass 3, and I think that one started picking up in the final issues. I enjoyed the Wanted comic a while back, but I thought it was a little mean-spirited in some areas. I didn't mind the movie, though. In fact, I enjoyed it.
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Post by Juice on Apr 12, 2015 17:51:44 GMT -5
I myself never understood this criticism and thought he did fine. The changed ending along with the absence of Black Freighter makes it better. The directors cut being my favorite version of the film. Because the entire point of Veidt is that he's this amazing guy that just willingly murders millions to save billions. In the movie, he played him as a suspicious weasel. That is not Veidt at all. That narrative still exists in the film though, just without the squid monster.
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Post by Some Guy on Apr 12, 2015 17:54:01 GMT -5
Because the entire point of Veidt is that he's this amazing guy that just willingly murders millions to save billions. In the movie, he played him as a suspicious weasel. That is not Veidt at all. That narrative still exists in the film though, just without the squid monster. I get that, my point was that the narrative failed badly because Goode was miscast. That and the Silk Spectre miscastings with the pointless slow motion crippled the movie.
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Apr 12, 2015 19:05:39 GMT -5
Wait, Paul McCartney starred in The Shining? Damn it, wrong Wings...oops. Psst, top of the page lol
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Post by angryfan on Apr 12, 2015 19:11:46 GMT -5
Damn it, wrong Wings...oops. Psst, top of the page lol Wait, this CAN'T be a coincidence. Paul McCartney fronts the band WINGS, and the man who played Brian God Damn Hackett on Wings. They both were in the TV remake of The Shining, which co-starred Rebecca De Mornay, who I believe was in a music video for Starship, which may have been influenced by the Beatles which, of course, McCartney was a member of... It all makes sense now.
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