Wait, I thought the RKO in general was banned?

[héad.casé]

Yeah Orton hit it on Kane, but he technically wasn't a match participant. I'm kinda confused right now. Like Lawler said, the move itself was banned from the match so how could Seth use it?

[kingofthings]

They needed some kind of angle to give Orton a rematch.

Expect Orton to be shouting about it at some point tonight.

[Bang Bang Bart]

The WWE Twitter addressed the issue, and didn't the announcers mention it as well?

[Deleted]

It's only called the RKO when Randy does it since those are his initials.

When Seth does it it's called the Seth Smasher or something so it's ok

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

SETH DID AN ACE CRUSHER, NOT AN RKO

COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

(At least he didn't do the shitty DDT thing he did on RAW...)

[Wolf Hurricane]

Apr 27, 2015 7:04:43 GMT -5 héad.casé said:

Yeah Orton hit it on Kane, but he technically wasn't a match participant. I'm kinda confused right now. Like Lawler said, the move itself was banned from the match so how could Seth use it?

As the gatekeeper, he was as much a match participant as a referee. That is to say, if Rollins is to be in trouble for using a cutter on Orton, wouldn't Orton have to be penalized for using the RKO period?

[A Platypus Rave]

The commentators were talking about this. It's a plot point.

JBL was arguing that Randy did it first and it was only banned for Orton.

King was complaining it was flat out banned, because that's what Seth said.

[YAKMAN is ICHIBAN]

The rules clearly didn't matter tonight.

Lights re-set in a Russian chain match after doing moves? Not after an AA apparently.

Can't usually stand on someone during a last man standing match, but tonight its okay.

RKO banned? Sort of. Kind of. Well, the title doesn't change hands on a DQ anyway so it doesn't f***ing matter Lawler.

[AdamAFL was sooooo wrong]

I loved the finish exactly because of this because there are three possible theories of how the match should have ended.

1. Rollins wins when Orton RKO's Kane because the RKO was banned.
2. Orton wins when Rollins hits it on him because Orton's earlier RKO on Kane is considered not be a move within the match*
3. Rollins wins by escape as he did because both Orton's RKO on Kane as explained above and Rollins RKO on Orton were both legal as it was either not technically an RKO (just Seth's version of it) or because it was just Orton who was banned from using the RKO.

It's a plot point as someone else stated. They just wanted a reason for Orton to have a rematch - which I dislike, why do it three PPV's in a row. But if they were desperate to do Rollins/Orton at Payback then at least this was a clever and interesting way to get there.

* - this one in particular is interesting because would Orton have then won by DQ (meaning Seth would have kept the title anyway) or would it have been classified differently resulting in Orton winning the belt.

[A Platypus Rave]

Apr 27, 2015 8:35:10 GMT -5 YAKMAN is ICHIBAN said:

Lights re-set in a Russian chain match after doing moves? Not after an AA apparently.

They sort of explained that as Cena didn't stop moving forward even while doing the AA. But it wasn't really handled well at all... since earlier Rusev did stop moving (When he held off on kicking Cena) and the lights didn't go off.

[eJm]

I love that a plot point for a feud at this point will probably end up being 'We didn't explain the rules of our stipulations properly'.

[The Tim Duncan Experience]

Whatever keeps Seth as champion I'm in. Though it would have been cool if what happened to Orton would have been the same like what happened to HBK in his match when the superkick was banned.



So what happens now? Will it be a direct rematch or will Roman make it a triple threat?

[YAKMAN is ICHIBAN]

Apr 27, 2015 8:59:54 GMT -5 eJm said:

I love that a plot point for a feud at this point will probably end up being 'We didn't explain the rules of our stipulations properly'.

I could see this actually being a fun storyline if someone like Foley was the authority figure.

"I guess I didn't think that through. We'll have to have a re-match right here in Event Location!" *thumbs up*



Maybe next year instead of Extreme Rules we can have Duchess of Queensbury Rules.

[Wolf Hurricane]

Just for posterity, can you BE disqualified at an "extreme rules" PPV? That'd kinda contradict the whole "extreme" thing, innit?

[4real]

Apr 27, 2015 8:35:10 GMT -5 YAKMAN is ICHIBAN said:

The rules clearly didn't matter tonight.

Lights re-set in a Russian chain match after doing moves? Not after an AA apparently.

Can't usually stand on someone during a last man standing match, but tonight its okay.

RKO banned? Sort of. Kind of. Well, the title doesn't change hands on a DQ anyway so it doesn't f***ing matter Lawler.

And Sheamus didn't kiss Arse dammit!

[YAKMAN is ICHIBAN]

Apr 27, 2015 10:53:54 GMT -5 4real said:

Apr 27, 2015 8:35:10 GMT -5 YAKMAN is ICHIBAN said:

The rules clearly didn't matter tonight.

Lights re-set in a Russian chain match after doing moves? Not after an AA apparently.

Can't usually stand on someone during a last man standing match, but tonight its okay.

RKO banned? Sort of. Kind of. Well, the title doesn't change hands on a DQ anyway so it doesn't f***ing matter Lawler.

And Sheamus didn't kiss Arse dammit!

The loser has to kiss the winners arse....or what? They're fined? Suspended? Decision reversed?

[4real]

Apr 27, 2015 13:31:18 GMT -5 YAKMAN is ICHIBAN said:

Apr 27, 2015 10:53:54 GMT -5 4real said:

And Sheamus didn't kiss Arse dammit!

The loser has to kiss the winners arse....or what? They're fined? Suspended? Decision reversed?

I honestly think Sheamus should be threatened with being fired or suspended if he doesn't eventually kiss Dolph's arse but since The Authority is in charge I doubt WWE will bother doing anything with it and expect us to forget it.

[MiLB Fan]

Apr 27, 2015 9:59:20 GMT -5 Wolf Hurricane said:

Just for posterity, can you BE disqualified at an "extreme rules" PPV? That'd kinda contradict the whole "extreme" thing, innit?

As I said in the PPV thread, the first WCW Uncensored included a match that ended in a DQ, despite Tony and Bobby's constant reminders that this show was supposedly not sanctioned.

So the show is "extreme" in name only.

Also, the RKO was banned. The Diamond Cutter was not.

[A Platypus Rave]

the Seth Slicer was not banned!

[Oh Cry Me a Screwball]

Apr 27, 2015 9:59:20 GMT -5 Wolf Hurricane said:

Just for posterity, can you BE disqualified at an "extreme rules" PPV? That'd kinda contradict the whole "extreme" thing, innit?

Well, I would argue a move ban in general contradicts the Extreme thing.