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Post by xCompackx on May 25, 2015 15:41:04 GMT -5
I agree that Cena's booking has generally always been dull. I also never felt he's ever been in jeopardy of losing since he won the US belt, he might do his best to make Stardust and whoever look good, but the ending is telegraphed. But to play devil's advocate on what the point is, say pro wrestling was real. Ronda Rousey has been winning with ease apparently, what's the point or appeal there? Cena is the superman in kayfabe so he is going to win his matches. In theory it has the same point as watching any dominant figure in sports. (That said, I don't do that either) I think it's boring, but that's a bit different than if it has a point. Wrestling in general is just there to entertain, Cena fans would like to see him win. For me, it's not even that the endings are telegraphed so much as how they end the matches. I don't mind John Cena going over guys like Sami Zayn and Neville, but the whole "recover instantly and AA for the win" sequence is what kills these matches. Not to say that Cena can't sell; he's great when he does. It just goes back to my earlier post that they're just too afraid of making him look weak for this "open challenge" to work.
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Post by Speedy Cerviche on May 25, 2015 17:18:05 GMT -5
Cena's alright. It's not like he's anywhere near the level of DX beating Spirit Squad in 5 on 2 handicap matches or something like that. The matches actually make people look good because his opponents get in a tonne of awesome offense against a guy who is a legit legend before the one two brapadoo.
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Post by Robbymac on May 27, 2015 11:20:08 GMT -5
For as much flak as John Cena gets, his problem as a character was never that he didn't take losses when it was important to do so. They just have no idea how to sell a loss without Vince being afraid that they're making John look too weak. For example, the night after Brock won the WWE Championship, John Cena came out immediately asking for a rematch rather than selling the 16 or so Suplexes he took and the multiple F5's. It's okay to be the "never say die" hero, but you can't just pretend a brutal match didn't happen. In fairness he did take the night after Summerslam off. He asked for the rematch the following Raw if memory serves me correct.
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Post by xCompackx on May 27, 2015 12:19:52 GMT -5
For as much flak as John Cena gets, his problem as a character was never that he didn't take losses when it was important to do so. They just have no idea how to sell a loss without Vince being afraid that they're making John look too weak. For example, the night after Brock won the WWE Championship, John Cena came out immediately asking for a rematch rather than selling the 16 or so Suplexes he took and the multiple F5's. It's okay to be the "never say die" hero, but you can't just pretend a brutal match didn't happen. In fairness he did take the night after Summerslam off. He asked for the rematch the following Raw if memory serves me correct. Did he? Fair enough, then. I still remember Cena requesting the rematch sometime during that week, though.
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Post by Robbymac on May 27, 2015 12:21:42 GMT -5
In fairness he did take the night after Summerslam off. He asked for the rematch the following Raw if memory serves me correct. Did he? Fair enough, then. I still remember Cena requesting the rematch sometime during that week, though. Starting to come back to me No showed Raw. Then on Main Event HHH announced that Cena had contacted him to invoke his return match. He did not show up in person though until the following Monday.
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