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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 28, 2015 7:58:24 GMT -5
www.youtube.com/watch?v=74ak4E3d5wIAt the height of his best look as far as him compared to Orton, Cena, Etc... and this was right after his feud with Orton. It just seem funny that his push got stalled instantly once he lost to Show at mania even though he did a lot to bring a little shine back to the IC title(his feud with Orton should of been for IC title). One of the reasons why I like the brand split because guys like him could be showcased a little more. Do you think this is the max he will reach as far as look and placement on the show or can he rebuild his image to that way again? DO NOT EMBED WWE OWNED MATERIAL - Platypus
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Post by Citizen Snips on May 28, 2015 8:06:33 GMT -5
He's been around 8 years. Pretty sure if they had any big plans for him, they would've done something by now.
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Post by wallabylikeyou on May 28, 2015 9:15:10 GMT -5
Like Ziggler, Cody will only ever have occasional moments in the sun and I think that's okay. I also think he's not going to have another moment in the sun for a while until he stops being Stardust.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on May 28, 2015 9:21:34 GMT -5
He's been around 8 years. Pretty sure if they had any big plans for him, they would've done something by now. They could have done something with him, Miz and Dolph in 2013 during The Authority storyline, but they went with Big Show. Survivor Series should have been main evented by Bryan, Miz, Dolph, Cody and Goldust vs Orton, The Shield, and one more Authority hired gun. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 28, 2015 9:24:19 GMT -5
Like Ziggler, Cody will only ever have occasional moments in the sun and I think that's okay. I also think he's not going to have another moment in the sun for a while until he stops being Stardust. Which is fine, this was a good spot for him as far as holding the belt and elevating it while being able to at least have a good showing against the main eventers. Ziggler is a strange case because he will always be featured like Kofi but he's broke over his ceiling. Like Cody his look has gone down over the last few years. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 28, 2015 9:26:39 GMT -5
He's been around 8 years. Pretty sure if they had any big plans for him, they would've done something by now. They could have done something with him, Miz and Dolph in 2013 during The Authority storyline, but they went with Big Show. Survivor Series should have been main evented by Bryan, Miz, Dolph, Cody and Goldust vs Orton, The Shield, and one more Authority hired gun. Would of been a believable main event as you can label all those guys with the never say die attitude going against the big authority, all men with a ruthless streak. |
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Post by Just call me D.j.m. on May 28, 2015 9:43:36 GMT -5
He reached his ceiling.
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Post by ededdneddy on May 28, 2015 9:45:38 GMT -5
He died on his way back to his home planet but got lost along the way amongst the stars
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2015 11:42:28 GMT -5
He's still very young and given the current storyline, he's about to abandon Stardust and go back to that.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 28, 2015 12:01:47 GMT -5
He's still very young and given the current storyline, he's about to abandon Stardust and go back to that. The thing is Cody can run with a gimmick and make it more than you expect it to be. That is probably when he is at his best. Phantom of the opera Cody did wonders for his mic skills as he was given more time to talk after getting a start with the dashing cody rhodes character. |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2015 16:40:12 GMT -5
People complain that WWE has no real midcard and then complain when guys like Cody and Ziggler are always in the midcard.
I realize they aren't necessarily the same fans saying both things, but c'mon. Cody's good but doesn't scream main event or anything.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on May 28, 2015 16:56:15 GMT -5
People complain that WWE has no real midcard and then complain when guys like Cody and Ziggler are always in the midcard. I realize they aren't necessarily the same fans saying both things, but c'mon. Cody's good but doesn't scream main event or anything. When people complain that WWE has no real midcard, it means they want the guys at the bottom of the barrel as jobbers to be brought up to do something of substance, not for guys who could be possible top contenders to be held down. That's kind of the basis of my rooting for guys like Ryder or Riley. Guys like Ziggler, guys like Barrett, guys like Sheamus, guys like Miz and guys like Ryback don't come off as proper midcarders. They come off more as guys who are supposed to be "main eventers" but they aren't currently chasing the world title, so they're just coasting and slumming until it's their turn for a world title shot/run. They are "in" the midcard, but WWE doesn't present them as actual midcarders and goes on doing this weird thing where they half ass pretend that they're still "main eventers" even if they aren't actually in the main event; We're not supposed to think of Ziggler as a "midcarder". Cody should be the top guy of the midcard. Not playing a comedy geek ripoff of his brother's gimmick. There IS no real midcard. That's why guys like Wyatt and Rusev have to be built towards feuds with Cena/legends. That's why the Shield were pushed the way that they were. That's why Sami Zayn and Kevin Owens have to debut against Cena. Because there's no actual midcard to work with, people have to be shoved into the uppercard in order to have worthwhile programs. |
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Post by FAR5222 on May 28, 2015 17:03:12 GMT -5
I guess I'm a crappy fan if I have this logic but during a wrestlers down time (push down the card a bit) I see if they can keep me captivated and emotional invested the same way they did during their rise or while on top.
If they don't I don't waste time to care for them. Yeah that's some of WWE creative's fault but guys like Bryan and Ryback stay consistent and don't regress when they get pushed down the card.
Someone like Ziggler was improving on the mic in the buildup to Summerslam last year and then he went back to the same old fast talking making shitty jokes Ziggler post Survivor Series. And Ziggler's ring work has remained the same since his rise in 2012.
Cody was pretty hot with the crowd mid-late 2013 but someone named Daniel Bryan at the time excelled at everything Cody did and was more over and wasn't going to get Bryan's spot. Cody Rhodes when he spilt from Sandow was money.
Stardust was mildly entertaining the first three months and then it dragged on far too long and his match with Goldust in February sucked and then Goldust got injured. Now Stardust is just jobbing here and there when needed. The one good thing out of Cody as Stardust was changing his moveset a bit to accommodate the gimmick.
The problem with guys like Ziggler and Cody are that they easily get unmotivated during down times. That is not fun watching as a fan.
Cody knows he has a spot for life in that company for all the good he contributed and especially nepotism. Ziggler has been there far too long and has been consistently over since 2012 but you see it in their work they are just spinning their wheels.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2015 18:58:14 GMT -5
Cody really looks weird without knee pads, but man does he have a fantastic physique. On to the topic at hand, he's only 30, he's already been around for a long time, he's got credibility, and WWE has shown that they can make anyone look legitimate if they want to. I think if he turns back to Cody Rhodes and gets a good feud, he'll go right to the main event.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 28, 2015 20:02:54 GMT -5
People complain that WWE has no real midcard and then complain when guys like Cody and Ziggler are always in the midcard. I realize they aren't necessarily the same fans saying both things, but c'mon. Cody's good but doesn't scream main event or anything. Don't know if this is addressed to me or not but I wasn't proclaiming Cody a main eventer. I was looking at this Cody Rhodes compared to Stardust who we have now. Cody at that time was in top physical shape and had the right look to be taken seriously. As previously stated their isn't really a midcard as much as their is guys lounging around until they get something of value. I guess I'm a crappy fan if I have this logic but during a wrestlers down time (push down the card a bit) I see if they can keep me captivated and emotional invested the same way they did during their rise or while on top. If they don't I don't waste time to care for them. Yeah that's some of WWE creative's fault but guys like Bryan and Ryback stay consistent and don't regress when they get pushed down the card. Someone like Ziggler was improving on the mic in the buildup to Summerslam last year and then he went back to the same old fast talking making shitty jokes Ziggler post Survivor Series. And Ziggler's ring work has remained the same since his rise in 2012. Cody was pretty hot with the crowd mid-late 2013 but someone named Daniel Bryan at the time excelled at everything Cody did and was more over and wasn't going to get Bryan's spot. Cody Rhodes when he spilt from Sandow was money. Stardust was mildly entertaining the first three months and then it dragged on far too long and his match with Goldust in February sucked and then Goldust got injured. Now Stardust is just jobbing here and there when needed. The one good thing out of Cody as Stardust was changing his moveset a bit to accommodate the gimmick. The problem with guys like Ziggler and Cody are that they easily get unmotivated during down times. That is not fun watching as a fan. Cody knows he has a spot for life in that company for all the good he contributed and especially nepotism. Ziggler has been there far too long and has been consistently over since 2012 but you see it in their work they are just spinning their wheels. In Zigglers case, I think that concussion really set him back when he had the belt. The concussion wasn't his fault but to me he's bordering on that Corey Graves line where if he suffers another concussion you might have to have that talk with him about bumping as hard as he does(I think this talk should of happened already). Guys like Angle and Orton were told to cut out the unnecessary in their moves because they have a bright future and somebody should talk to Dolph about less being more in his case. |
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Post by rippo on May 28, 2015 20:15:55 GMT -5
I enjoyed Cody Rhodes as Dr. Doom and "Dashing" but as plain old Cody Rhodes? The guy isn't a main eventer. He's a decent wrestler, nothing amazing or particularly captivating. I'll give him credit though, he can take whatever character WWE throw at him and run with it to the max.
Which begs the question... why has he been a generic CAW for more than half of his career?
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Post by "Mr Wonderdick" Dick Dastardly on May 28, 2015 20:45:44 GMT -5
They failed to capitalize on the momentum Cody had in 2013. Him and Goldust jobbed out to the Outlaws with little fanfare and was aimless until Stardust and their heel turn happened.
IMO, I would have built up to Cody getting a title shot last year at Elimination Chamber, come close to winning, then have Goldust turn heel on him. Have the story play up that Goldust was jealous that Cody got a WWE Title match on a PPV, yet he never had that opportunity. Then play up that Dusty was there for Cody more than he was there for Goldust. Goldust had to no be a Rhodes to have success, yet Cody was able to use the Rhodes name to gain success in the WWE.
Cody refuses to face Goldust in a match, but Goldust keeps egging him on. Then Cody is pushed over the edge, he develops the Stardust persona. Sorta like The Great Muta where Stardust only appears when Cody is pushed too far in a feud. Basically, it would be an alter ego and not a full time gimmick.
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