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Post by OGBoardPoster2005 on Jun 8, 2015 21:40:20 GMT -5
....why?
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Post by Chuck Conry on Jun 8, 2015 21:46:14 GMT -5
WCW in 1992 into 1993 was a strange strange time.
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Post by JTG Fan on Jun 8, 2015 21:47:45 GMT -5
Because The Barbarian was awesome.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Jun 8, 2015 21:52:10 GMT -5
It would have been awesome if they got Dave the Barbarian! Instead, we just got a regular Barbarian  |
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Post by Aceorton on Jun 9, 2015 11:49:42 GMT -5
I'm guessing the reasoning was to simply feed Simmons a challenger who wasn't a pillar of the roster whom he could beat in his first title defense. A rematch with Vader would have been much better, IMO, but, eh.
Side note: This thread led me to the Wikipedia page for this event, and this is just delightful:
Dark match: Erik Watts and Van Hammer defeated The Vegas Connection (Vinnie Vegas and Diamond Dallas Page) (12:00)
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Post by Slingshot Suplay on Jun 9, 2015 12:41:27 GMT -5
Because he finally got recognition for being the Shawn Michaels of the Powers of Pain.
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Post by Super Nintenjoe KBD on Jun 9, 2015 13:39:34 GMT -5
Because The Barbarian was awesome. I loved at I think Wrestlemania VI when he received a small but distinct rare pop for a heel for his awesome finisher (some sort of high impact flying move? Cant quite remember) against Tito and for the swiftly following 1-2-3. He was so just bad-ass people couldnt help but mark out even if was a heel. Seems like a perfect fit for an occasional main event slot to me if pushed right although in saying that I dont remember much of other matches I've seen him in so maybe I remembering with rose tinted glasses. |
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jun 9, 2015 14:11:07 GMT -5
Barbarian was also getting a mini push around the time as well
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Post by lovingway on Jun 9, 2015 17:27:43 GMT -5
Barbarian was also getting a mini push around the time as well I hope he was if he was main eventing a PPV against the world champ  |
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jun 9, 2015 19:30:02 GMT -5
Barbarian was also getting a mini push around the time as well I hope he was if he was main eventing a PPV against the world champ lol fair point but he was the number 2 heel at that point behind Vader and was his stable mate. |
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Post by devilfish on Jun 9, 2015 20:48:56 GMT -5
Reminds me of the 1992 PWI Year End Awards where they showed fans' top 10 lists, and one guy wrote "the top ten things wrong with WCW in 1992" and three of the en tries were different versions of: "The BARBARIAN! A WORLD TITLE CONTENDER!"
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Post by Non Banjoble Tokens on Jun 9, 2015 21:04:59 GMT -5
Should have been the Warlord vs. Hulk Hogan at Wrestlemania VII, THERE I SAID IT!!!
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Post by toodarkmark on Jun 9, 2015 21:29:12 GMT -5
Bill Watts still thought he was a viable World Title contender. He wasn't aware that he had become a lower mid carder and really did no build up for the match. Cactus Jack was spending time with Barbarian, and I remember thinking why not just build Jack into a contender because he was so much better on the mic and was over. But Watts was Watts. There really wasn't much build up even.
3-4 years later it's a Monday night match.
They had Rude and Vader which would have been better. Or since it was in Philly, they could have had a Ricky Steamboat v. Ron Simmons face vs face world title match. Oh well.
The highlight of HH 92 is Zenk, Angel, Douglas get mercilessly booed in their match and still winning.
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Jun 9, 2015 22:11:58 GMT -5
Bill Watts still thought he was a viable World Title contender. He wasn't aware that he had become a lower mid carder and really did no build up for the match. Cactus Jack was spending time with Barbarian, and I remember thinking why not just build Jack into a contender because he was so much better on the mic and was over. But Watts was Watts. There really wasn't much build up even. According to Foley's book, he was suffering from a torn abdominal muscle from a previous match with Simmons when Havoc rolled around. Had he been healthy, he might've indeed gotten the shot instead of Barbarian. |
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Post by cabbageboy on Jun 9, 2015 22:23:11 GMT -5
Yeah I think Barbarian was a placeholder but I'm not sure I buy the Foley theory since Foley lost to Simmons at the previous Clash where he got hurt and was clearly not in line for a PPV title shot. Stuff like The Barbarian getting a title shot would have been fine during the Goldberg era where there were more PPVs and more TV shows and they could feed Barbarian a few jobbers and make him look credible. I myself am baffled as to why WCW didn't do this with Meng for instance. Why not throw him a title shot at a show like WW3 1998 when Goldberg didn't wrestle? The battle royale is what drew the buyrate, so it's not like Meng would be expected to draw the money there. Ditto Scott Norton. Big bad ass dude. Build him up and let Goldberg beat him.
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Jun 9, 2015 23:40:24 GMT -5
I thought it was odd back then. Still do in hindsight. If I recall, Barbarian had just returned/debuted in WCW, so WCW had the chance to define him in the slot they needed him for.
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Post by lws on Jun 10, 2015 23:07:30 GMT -5
Yeah I think Barbarian was a placeholder but I'm not sure I buy the Foley theory since Foley lost to Simmons at the previous Clash where he got hurt and was clearly not in line for a PPV title shot. Stuff like The Barbarian getting a title shot would have been fine during the Goldberg era where there were more PPVs and more TV shows and they could feed Barbarian a few jobbers and make him look credible. I myself am baffled as to why WCW didn't do this with Meng for instance. Why not throw him a title shot at a show like WW3 1998 when Goldberg didn't wrestle? The battle royale is what drew the buyrate, so it's not like Meng would be expected to draw the money there. Ditto Scott Norton. Big bad ass dude. Build him up and let Goldberg beat him. especially weird since they DID do that exact same thing for meng around that exact time period (maybe a month or two earlier, but it definitely proves it could be done) to build up a nitro main event it literally just took like two segments of meng running out and destroying people and yelling, and unlike when they overdid the shit out of it with sid vicious the next year, it actually worked, as it was a known tough guy like finally trying to force them to give him his shot with crazy violence |
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Post by cabbageboy on Jun 11, 2015 8:51:12 GMT -5
The Sid thing could have worked a year earlier with better booking. Death of WCW details in hilarious fashion the ineptitude of how Sid was booked in 1999, as he was allegedly undefeated but was losing all the time on house shows, attacking people on TV and these were somehow wins, etc. It also didn't help that by late 1999 Goldberg had also lost every single bit of his momentum.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jun 11, 2015 8:58:13 GMT -5
Because The Barbarian was awesome. I loved at I think Wrestlemania VI when he received a small but distinct rare pop for a heel for his awesome finisher (some sort of high impact flying move? Cant quite remember) against Tito and for the swiftly following 1-2-3. He was so just bad-ass people couldnt help but mark out even if was a heel. Looking at the Network now... It was a clothesline from the top rope, but Santana sold it like absolute death. Sold it kind of like how Rollins does it now, landing on the high part of the back/neck. |
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Post by brody on Jun 11, 2015 9:36:44 GMT -5
It was supposed to be Butch Reed but Reed no showed a TV taping soon after being rehired and Watts fired him.
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