Wrestler's Real Long-Term Narratives

[The Legendary Ring Troll {BLM}]

Okay, so a post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter made me think of this, in conjunction with that one video about Triple H.

Okay, so if you look at Triple H's real narrative, outside of how WWE presents him, he isn't "the Asskicker, King of Kings" be all end all superman. He's an insecure snob who needs constant reaffirmation of his greatness and he's obsessed with the WWE World Heavyweight Title to the point where he HAS to have some sort of control over it.

The post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter suggested that John Cena is so insecure that he acts like his losses mean nothing and that his wins were the hardest most brutal things ever, because he has to build himself up.

I think it's fascinating to think how different a wrestler's character and storylines can be portrayed when not beholden to WWE's canon. What other real narratives are there outside of these two?

[Dub H]

to be fair,i think originally Triple H (Authority)was supposed to be that.I remember him saying that the championship was his and orton was holding,something like that

[Bo Rida]

John Cena is America.

He starts as the plucky upstart until he becomes the undisputed top dog that runs the show.
To many he represents all that's right with the world but the other half of the universe hate him for what they see as his hypocrisy, brashness, poor treatment of allies and what he represents.

His enemies are often metaphors for whatever Vince thinks is threatening America:

Edge - The decline of moral standards (er.. yeah, I know, Vince is a complicated man OK!)

Muhammed Hassan - Terrorism
Nexus - Communism or maybe a distorted view of socialism (we are one)

JBL - The 1%
The Miz - Reality TV/ Z-list Celebrity Culture
The Rock - Those that turn against the home that made them
The Authority - Corporate interests ahead of the individual

Bryan - Those damn millennial hipsters
Wyatt - Brainwashing of the youth of America
Rusev - Russian Aggression


Now he's realised his time on top is coming to an end but the future still has to go through him, this symbolises America being a declining superpower and the rise of Eastern countries

[Reflecto]

Randy Orton has a fear of abandonment ever since Evolution turned on him in 2004, and that's shaped everything he's done since then..

He started out seen as one of the great prospects in WWE- third-generation star, but never quite got over the hump on Smackdown. However, Triple H and Ric Flair saw something in him, so they took him under their wing. Once they did, he started to finally get over the hump and live up to his potential- first making it to a point where he could live up to his father and grandfather's careers- and then, at Summerslam when he found a belt somewhere, finally surpassed them and became his own man, the best of them all.

The next night, Evolution turned on him, and it's colored his career ever since. Orton instantly went on a tailspin because he lost his mentors and closest friends, losing his title quickly to Triple H. He tried replacing this hole, becoming something he wasn't to try and get acceptance and finding it wasn't working.

When this failed miserably, He tried to do the one thing that'd force everyone to give him the acceptance he craved- beating the Undertaker at Wrestlemania. Doing this was a plus for Orton- his father had seen him as great, but it eventually took everything away from him and drove him further downwards when he couldn't beat Undertaker.

He became miserable, antisocial, and like many people in the modern era who become miserable and antisocial, he ended up a troll. He would say anything he wanted, even saying people like Eddie Guerrero were in hell just to make fans pay attention to him, believing the opposite of love was not hate, but apathy. Not only did this not work for him, but Kurt Angle, another person trolling at the time, was actually liked for doing this. Orton didn't really know Angle or care, but then the last straw happened for Orton once Triple H, the man who caused him all of these problems in the first place, became a hero to all the fans by doing the exact same things

Then, Orton was furious. He found a new mentor who worked perfectly for his viewpoint- Edge, the cool troll who couldn't care what people think and was totally banging this hot girl, you guys, honest! Seeing a kindred spirit, the two were out for one mission- to take out DX, prove to the world Triple H was evil for what he had done to him all along, and hopefully become able to BE DX. (Incidentally at this time, Orton also showed cracks in his own armor, as for the first time he had an idol worshipper in Kenny Dykstra- and whether it was thinking it's the way to help new stars or just taking it out on the next one, Orton merely treated him the same way Triple H treated Orton.) This ended up failing, and then Edge left for Smackdown to win the World Title- taking away another of Orton's mentors.

Right there, Orton realized- he can't get the love and respect he so craved by being the nice guy, he couldn't get it by being a troll, so he went to the last refuge of getting it- find the only person in the schoolyard who's less popular than him and start bullying him in hopes that the more popular kids would think he's cool...and from there, we get the beginning of the storied Randy Orton/John Cena rivalry. Even if it was a last resort, it actually started to work. Orton suddenly scratched the surface of his potential again, became a star- and ended up being a champion again.

Orton grew into himself, slowly but surely, and truly finding the person he was. Improbably, Randy Orton had become "cool" for the first time in a while, and he didn't know how to handle it. He saw examples of what was cool from Triple H and Edge before, and tried emulating them. He eventually found some people who thought he was as good as Triple H, and tried teaching them to show he would be different than HHH and Flair were to him- and they started to succeed. Orton seemed to become the person he wanted. Then, things went sour as Legacy was treated so well- there was a little dissent between the three of them. Now, Orton was being abandoned by the people he cared about again, and so Orton decided if things were never going to stay as perfect as they were all the time and he'd just be alone again afterwards, then Orton would just abandon them FIRST.

He did- and the weirder fact was: As he did this, finally the fans loved him. Orton got the love he was searching for, and became popular with fans. He was a champion, he was the man, he could take on anyone. He was on top of the world for all of 2010...and then, CM Punk came to town. CM Punk tried doing the same thing Orton had done before with the New Nexus, and so Orton had to dispatch him and exorcise the demons inside him.

Indeed, he thought he had done it- but then, a Pipebomb hit. Suddenly, Orton didn't seem like the cool, sexy, badass rebel to the fans anymore. CM Punk suddenly became cooler, sexier, more badass, and more rebellious than Orton. Orton slowly wasn't at the top anymore.

Orton thought he was over the issues that had happened and seemed to accept CM Punk as an equal and a friend. But slowly but surely, CM Punk wasn't just another person like that, but bringing in this new era. A more indie mentality was taking hold of the fans, and new stars like Punk and Daniel Bryan were becoming examples of it. Randy Orton used to be "with it", then they changed what "IT" was. Suddenly, Orton was falling back to earth, becoming forgotten about, being abandoned by the fans again for these new stars.

Orton couldn't have that happen- so he needed to stay at the top to stay with the love and respect of the fans. He couldn't handle it, so he finally sold his soul to stay at the top. If you didn't respect him, he'd kill to GET that respect...but if you DID respect him, he'd gladly throw it all away just to prove he deserved that respect in the first place.

With that in mind, he went back to Triple H and agreed to be his lapdog. He struck a killing blow at Daniel Bryan, and officially became the Face of the WWE once and for all.

Life was good. Orton had to throw it all away beforehand, but he was the face of the company, he was the World Champion, he finally WAS THE MAN like he had been trained to be- and he finally had Triple H's respect and love back for him. He was truly whole again.

Then, Seth Rollins turned on The Shield and joined The Authority. Suddenly, Triple H had a new toy, a new Randy Orton, if you will, to mold into becoming a star. The new Rollins was just as cerebral as Triple H, he was just as talented...and in the biggest blow for Orton, Rollins even had that indy credibility that Triple H had told Orton for so long was the cause of all of his problems. Orton could see where it was going- he was about to be abandoned again for Rollins...and eventually, it happened.

Orton was despondent, broken- and then, finally, he made his comeback. He was going after Rollins and destroying him. If Orton couldn't have The Authority's love and respect, then he'd make sure Seth Rollins couldn't have it EITHER.

[Tony Schiavontay]

Obviously Hulk Hogan as a symbol for all that is good and just in the world is kind of hurt in the years after his personal life spiraled out of control. Between all that bullshit where he claimed that Nick's friend who was nearly killed in that drunk driving thing deserved it and was going to go to hell, the public circus of his divorce, the weirdness between him and his daughter, the sex tape and tweeting out a shit he was taking, those Hulkamania promos of the 80s are loaded with a lot of unintentional comedy. The more you learn about Hogan outside the ring, the more you realize that he's a lot closer to his Hollywood character than the "say your prayers and take your vitamins" guy.

[Super Duper Dragunov]

Jun 15, 2015 9:15:16 GMT -5 Bo Rida said:

John Cena is America.

He starts as the plucky upstart until he becomes the undisputed top dog that runs the show.
To many he represents all that's right with the world but the other half of the universe hate him for what they see as his hypocrisy, brashness, poor treatment of allies and what he represents.

His enemies are often metaphors for whatever Vince thinks is threatening America:

Edge - The decline of moral standards (er.. yeah, I know, Vince is a complicated man OK!)

Muhammed Hassan - Terrorism
Nexus - Communism or maybe a distorted view of socialism (we are one)

JBL - The 1%
The Miz - Reality TV/ Z-list Celebrity Culture
The Rock - Those that turn against the home that made them
The Authority - Corporate interests ahead of the individual

Bryan - Those damn millennial hipsters
Wyatt - Brainwashing of the youth of America
Rusev - Russian Aggression


Now he's realised his time on top is coming to an end but the future still has to go through him, this symbolises America being a declining superpower and the rise of Eastern countries

I like this. But if John Cena were really representative of America, then behind the obviously scripted ideas (news) Cena would have been under control of JBL this entire time.

[Venti]

Jun 15, 2015 15:36:15 GMT -5 Reflecto said:

Randy Orton has a fear of abandonment ever since Evotolution turned on him inme 2004, and that's shaped everything he's done since then..

He started out seen as one of the great prospects in WWE- third-generation star, but never quite got over the hump on Smackdown. However, Triple H and Ric Flair saw something in him, so they took him under their wing. Once they did, he started to finally get over the hump and live up to his potential- first making it to a point where he could live up to his father and grandfather's careers- and then, at Summerslam when he found a belt somewhere, finally surpassed them and became his own man, the best of them all.

The next night, Evolution turned on him, and it's colored his career ever since. Orton instantly went on a tailspin because he lost his mentors and closest friends, losing his title quickly to Triple H. He tried replacing this hole, becoming something he wasn't to try and get acceptance and finding it wasn't working.

When this failed miserably, He tried to do the one thing that'd force everyone to give him the acceptance he craved- beating the Undertaker at Wrestlemania. Doing this was a plus for Orton- his father had seen him as great, but it eventually took everything away from him and drove him further downwards when he couldn't beat Undertaker.

He became miserable, antisocial, and like many people in the modern era who become miserable and antisocial, he ended up a troll. He would say anything he wanted, even saying people like Eddie Guerrero were in hell just to make fans pay attention to him, believing the opposite of love was not hate, but apathy. Not only did this not work for him, but Kurt Angle, another person trolling at the time, was actually liked for doing this. Orton didn't really know Angle or care, but then the last straw happened for Orton once Triple H, the man who caused him all of these problems in the first place, became a hero to all the fans by doing the exact same things

Then, Orton was furious. He found a new mentor who worked perfectly for his viewpoint- Edge, the cool troll who couldn't care what people think and was totally banging this hot girl, you guys, honest! Seeing a kindred spirit, the two were out for one mission- to take out DX, prove to the world Triple H was evil for what he had done to him all along, and hopefully become able to BE DX. (Incidentally at this time, Orton also showed cracks in his own armor, as for the first time he had an idol worshipper in Kenny Dykstra- and whether it was thinking it's the way to help new stars or just taking it out on the next one, Orton merely treated him the same way Triple H treated Orton.) This ended up failing, and then Edge left for Smackdown to win the World Title- taking away another of Orton's mentors.

Right there, Orton realized- he can't get the love and respect he so craved by being the nice guy, he couldn't get it by being a troll, so he went to the last refuge of getting it- find the only person in the schoolyard who's less popular than him and start bullying him in hopes that the more popular kids would think he's cool...and from there, we get the beginning of the storied Randy Orton/John Cena rivalry. Even if it was a last resort, it actually started to work. Orton suddenly scratched the surface of his potential again, became a star- and ended up being a champion again.

Orton grew into himself, slowly but surely, and truly finding the person he was. Improbably, Randy Orton had become "cool" for the first time in a while, and he didn't know how to handle it. He saw examples of what was cool from Triple H and Edge before, and tried emulating them. He eventually found some people who thought he was as good as Triple H, and tried teaching them to show he would be different than HHH and Flair were to him- and they started to succeed. Orton seemed to become the person he wanted. Then, things went sour as Legacy was treated so well- there was a little dissent between the three of them. Now, Orton was being abandoned by the people he cared about again, and so Orton decided if things were never going to stay as perfect as they were all the time and he'd just be alone again afterwards, then Orton would just abandon them FIRST.

He did- and the weirder fact was: As he did this, finally the fans loved him. Orton got the love he was searching for, and became popular with fans. He was a champion, he was the man, he could take on anyone. He was on top of the world for all of 2010...and then, CM Punk came to town. CM Punk tried doing the same thing Orton had done before with the New Nexus, and so Orton had to dispatch him and exorcise the demons inside him.

Indeed, he thought he had done it- but then, a Pipebomb hit. Suddenly, Orton didn't seem like the cool, sexy, badass rebel to the fans anymore. CM Punk suddenly became cooler, sexier, more badass, and more rebellious than Orton. Orton slowly wasn't at the top anymore.

Orton thought he was over the issues that had happened and seemed to accept CM Punk as an equal and a friend. But slowly but surely, CM Punk wasn't just another person like that, but bringing in this new era. A more indie mentality was taking hold of the fans, and new stars like Punk and Daniel Bryan were becoming examples of it. Randy Orton used to be "with it", then they changed what "IT" was. Suddenly, Orton was falling back to earth, becoming forgotten about, being abandoned by the fans again for these new stars.

Orton couldn't have that happen- so he needed to stay at the top to stay with the love and respect of the fans. He couldn't handle it, so he finally sold his soul to stay at the top. If you didn't respect him, he'd kill to GET that respect...but if you DID respect him, he'd gladly throw it all away just to prove he deserved that respect in the first place.

With that in mind, he went back to Triple H and agreed to be his lapdog. He struck a killing blow at Daniel Bryan, and officially became the Face of the WWE once and for all.

Life was good. Orton had to throw it all away beforehand, but he was the face of the company, he was the World Champion, he finally WAS THE MAN like he had been trained to be- and he finally had Triple H's respect and love back for him. He was truly whole again.

Then, Seth Rollins turned on The Shield and joined The Authority. Suddenly, Triple H had a new toy, a new Randy Orton, if you will, to mold into becoming a star. The new Rollins was just as cerebral as Triple H, he was just as talented...and in the biggest blow for Orton, Rollins even had that indy credibility that Triple H had told Orton for so long was the cause of all of his problems. Orton could see where it was going- he was about to be abandoned again for Rollins...and eventually, it happened.

Orton was despondent, broken- and then, finally, he made his comeback. He was going after Rollins and destroying him. If Orton couldn't have The Authority's love and respect, then he'd make sure Seth Rollins couldn't have it EITHER.

I wish really insightful and entertaining to read posts like this got a 100 likes instead of semi-funny jokes. Really awesome post!

[The Legendary Ring Troll {BLM}]

Jun 15, 2015 15:36:15 GMT -5 Reflecto said:

Randy Orton has a fear of abandonment ever since Evolution turned on him in 2004, and that's shaped everything he's done since then..

He started out seen as one of the great prospects in WWE- third-generation star, but never quite got over the hump on Smackdown. However, Triple H and Ric Flair saw something in him, so they took him under their wing. Once they did, he started to finally get over the hump and live up to his potential- first making it to a point where he could live up to his father and grandfather's careers- and then, at Summerslam when he found a belt somewhere, finally surpassed them and became his own man, the best of them all.

The next night, Evolution turned on him, and it's colored his career ever since. Orton instantly went on a tailspin because he lost his mentors and closest friends, losing his title quickly to Triple H. He tried replacing this hole, becoming something he wasn't to try and get acceptance and finding it wasn't working.

When this failed miserably, He tried to do the one thing that'd force everyone to give him the acceptance he craved- beating the Undertaker at Wrestlemania. Doing this was a plus for Orton- his father had seen him as great, but it eventually took everything away from him and drove him further downwards when he couldn't beat Undertaker.

He became miserable, antisocial, and like many people in the modern era who become miserable and antisocial, he ended up a troll. He would say anything he wanted, even saying people like Eddie Guerrero were in hell just to make fans pay attention to him, believing the opposite of love was not hate, but apathy. Not only did this not work for him, but Kurt Angle, another person trolling at the time, was actually liked for doing this. Orton didn't really know Angle or care, but then the last straw happened for Orton once Triple H, the man who caused him all of these problems in the first place, became a hero to all the fans by doing the exact same things

Then, Orton was furious. He found a new mentor who worked perfectly for his viewpoint- Edge, the cool troll who couldn't care what people think and was totally banging this hot girl, you guys, honest! Seeing a kindred spirit, the two were out for one mission- to take out DX, prove to the world Triple H was evil for what he had done to him all along, and hopefully become able to BE DX. (Incidentally at this time, Orton also showed cracks in his own armor, as for the first time he had an idol worshipper in Kenny Dykstra- and whether it was thinking it's the way to help new stars or just taking it out on the next one, Orton merely treated him the same way Triple H treated Orton.) This ended up failing, and then Edge left for Smackdown to win the World Title- taking away another of Orton's mentors.

Right there, Orton realized- he can't get the love and respect he so craved by being the nice guy, he couldn't get it by being a troll, so he went to the last refuge of getting it- find the only person in the schoolyard who's less popular than him and start bullying him in hopes that the more popular kids would think he's cool...and from there, we get the beginning of the storied Randy Orton/John Cena rivalry. Even if it was a last resort, it actually started to work. Orton suddenly scratched the surface of his potential again, became a star- and ended up being a champion again.

Orton grew into himself, slowly but surely, and truly finding the person he was. Improbably, Randy Orton had become "cool" for the first time in a while, and he didn't know how to handle it. He saw examples of what was cool from Triple H and Edge before, and tried emulating them. He eventually found some people who thought he was as good as Triple H, and tried teaching them to show he would be different than HHH and Flair were to him- and they started to succeed. Orton seemed to become the person he wanted. Then, things went sour as Legacy was treated so well- there was a little dissent between the three of them. Now, Orton was being abandoned by the people he cared about again, and so Orton decided if things were never going to stay as perfect as they were all the time and he'd just be alone again afterwards, then Orton would just abandon them FIRST.

He did- and the weirder fact was: As he did this, finally the fans loved him. Orton got the love he was searching for, and became popular with fans. He was a champion, he was the man, he could take on anyone. He was on top of the world for all of 2010...and then, CM Punk came to town. CM Punk tried doing the same thing Orton had done before with the New Nexus, and so Orton had to dispatch him and exorcise the demons inside him.

Indeed, he thought he had done it- but then, a Pipebomb hit. Suddenly, Orton didn't seem like the cool, sexy, badass rebel to the fans anymore. CM Punk suddenly became cooler, sexier, more badass, and more rebellious than Orton. Orton slowly wasn't at the top anymore.

Orton thought he was over the issues that had happened and seemed to accept CM Punk as an equal and a friend. But slowly but surely, CM Punk wasn't just another person like that, but bringing in this new era. A more indie mentality was taking hold of the fans, and new stars like Punk and Daniel Bryan were becoming examples of it. Randy Orton used to be "with it", then they changed what "IT" was. Suddenly, Orton was falling back to earth, becoming forgotten about, being abandoned by the fans again for these new stars.

Orton couldn't have that happen- so he needed to stay at the top to stay with the love and respect of the fans. He couldn't handle it, so he finally sold his soul to stay at the top. If you didn't respect him, he'd kill to GET that respect...but if you DID respect him, he'd gladly throw it all away just to prove he deserved that respect in the first place.

With that in mind, he went back to Triple H and agreed to be his lapdog. He struck a killing blow at Daniel Bryan, and officially became the Face of the WWE once and for all.

Life was good. Orton had to throw it all away beforehand, but he was the face of the company, he was the World Champion, he finally WAS THE MAN like he had been trained to be- and he finally had Triple H's respect and love back for him. He was truly whole again.

Then, Seth Rollins turned on The Shield and joined The Authority. Suddenly, Triple H had a new toy, a new Randy Orton, if you will, to mold into becoming a star. The new Rollins was just as cerebral as Triple H, he was just as talented...and in the biggest blow for Orton, Rollins even had that indy credibility that Triple H had told Orton for so long was the cause of all of his problems. Orton could see where it was going- he was about to be abandoned again for Rollins...and eventually, it happened.

Orton was despondent, broken- and then, finally, he made his comeback. He was going after Rollins and destroying him. If Orton couldn't have The Authority's love and respect, then he'd make sure Seth Rollins couldn't have it EITHER.

See, THIS is what I was looking for! Brilliant! Love it!

[carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army)]

This isn't some deep kayfabe thing, but I think Jericho has always done an amazing job of portraying that he's primarily driven by a need for attention. Face or heel, no matter the storyline, he's always put that in there.

[Deleted]

From a kayfabe standpoint, I'd like to see someone try Hulk Hogan.

I also imagine Randy Savage's story would flow very well, as whether he was face or heel, he never changed his persona very much at all.

[wallabylikeyou]

Jun 15, 2015 9:15:16 GMT -5 Bo Rida said:

John Cena is America.

He starts as the plucky upstart until he becomes the undisputed top dog that runs the show.
To many he represents all that's right with the world but the other half of the universe hate him for what they see as his hypocrisy, brashness, poor treatment of allies and what he represents.

His enemies are often metaphors for whatever Vince thinks is threatening America:

Edge - The decline of moral standards (er.. yeah, I know, Vince is a complicated man OK!)

Muhammed Hassan - Terrorism
Nexus - Communism or maybe a distorted view of socialism (we are one)

JBL - The 1%
The Miz - Reality TV/ Z-list Celebrity Culture
The Rock - Those that turn against the home that made them
The Authority - Corporate interests ahead of the individual

Bryan - Those damn millennial hipsters
Wyatt - Brainwashing of the youth of America
Rusev - Russian Aggression


Now he's realised his time on top is coming to an end but the future still has to go through him, this symbolises America being a declining superpower and the rise of Eastern countries

I'm with you for most of this but I have a hard time believing that Vince see's the 1% as a threat to America.

[Hit Girl]

Hulk Hogan: Chronicle Of A Legend

Chapter I

Thunderlips started off in wrestling's territorial system. But when he took part in a highly publicised charity match against Rocky Balboa, it gained the attention of WWF owner Vince McMahon, who signed up the charismatic superstar and gave him the new name "Hulk Hogan".

Hogan's first opportunity to win the WWF title came against the evil Iron Shiek, who had personally engineered the 1979 revolution in Iran, which installed the Ayatollah. Relocating to America, the Iron Shiek attempted to do the same in the west. Hogan, who had discovered a deep love for his country after Ronald Reagan's election in 1980, could not allow that. He defeated the Iron Shiek, who was so enthusiastic about defeating Hogan and breaking the spirit of America that during the match, he became sexually aroused.

Hogan reigned supreme until a major challenge dawned in 1987. His former friend, Andre, a giant from the French Alps, became jealous of Hogan's success. Andre's mind was poisoned by the villainous Bobby Heenan, a charismatic individual who convinced Andre that he should be the champion. Heenan also convinced Andre that Hogan had killed his herd of mammoths.

[Reflecto]

Jun 16, 2015 13:36:46 GMT -5 @wvguitar said:

From a kayfabe standpoint, I'd like to see someone try Hulk Hogan.

I also imagine Randy Savage's story would flow very well, as whether he was face or heel, he never changed his persona very much at all.

The bigger problem with Randy Savage is that his long-term narrative was too transparent to make it truly work- it's no different than, say, "The Big Show views being fired as a fate worse than death" as a long-term narrative: It can easily be argued that way, but the WWE's actually made that a plot point since at least 2012 that's how Big Show thinks, and it was stated as his motivation the last three turns he had.

Similarly with Savage, just looking at Wrestlemania, his long-term narrative was there:

WRESTLEMANIA 2: Randy Savage, a up and coming prospect and IC Champion, makes his Mania debut against George Steele and looks like a star to watch.
WM3: Savage/Steamboat. Savage loses his Intercontinental Championship, but in the process, he managed stole the show from the biggest match in wrestling history since Gotch/Hackenschmidt. The prospect has arrived, and all the fans know he's the future and got on board now.
WM 4: The future is now. A huge tournament occurs, and against all odds, Savage wins, winning four matches in one night to do it and ending Ted DiBiase's hope to be the champion. Even Hulk Hogan is on board with the Savage train, making him the star.
WM 5: Jealousy reared its ugly head. Savage realized he held a BELT, Hulk Hogan was THE CHAMP- and Hogan could get anything he wanted. That was fine with Savage before, but when Hogan decided he wanted Elizabeth, that was too much. Savage turns on his friend, the Mega-Powers explode, and Savage is left with nothing.
WM 6: Savage's jealousy has turned him mad. He allies with Sensational Sherri, becomes a king for the WWF, and takes out commoners, most notably the biggest commoner there was- Dusty Rhodes (Miss Elizabeth is there for some reason, but it's not known.)
WM 7: Savage's insanity has put him to a point where he takes on Warrior in a retirement match. He nearly slays the Warrior, but finally falls to him. Savage is truly at rock bottom...but then, he realizes he never needed the jealousy in the first place. Miss Elizabeth loved him all along and didn't care about him being a wrestling champion. He loses it all and gets more back.
WM 8: A older, wiser Savage goes against Ric Flair for the WWF Title. Flair tried bringing that jealousy up again to ruin Savage- but this time it was different. This time, Savage knew he had nothing to worry about- either Flair was lying through his teeth when he claimed Elizabeth was Flair's before she was Savage's...or even if he WASN'T, to Savage it wouldn't matter- she was with him now. Flair didn't know what hit him- Savage finally became a champion again, and did it having exorcised his demons.
The End.