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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jun 26, 2015 22:26:18 GMT -5
A dude I work with turned to my cubicle at one point and said in a snarky tone of voice: "Well Kev, anyone that likes guys can get married now." "Yeah, I heard that." "Can you believe that?!" "Some friends of mine can get married now if they want to, so that's cool." You could tell that totally wasn't the way he thought that conversation was gonna go. Did he want the d? It didn't sound like dude was propositioning me, but one never knows I suppose haha.
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Post by The Sam on Jun 26, 2015 22:32:00 GMT -5
They can let gay people get married but they can't make a cup of coffee that tastes good?
Congratulations to all Americans, especially northern.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Jun 26, 2015 22:33:11 GMT -5
It didn't sound like dude was propositioning me, but one never knows I suppose haha. I don't know about you, but I never actually know if I am being propositioned or not. Hell, I even miss it half of the time when my wife tries to be subtle about it. As a result, my wife learned not to be subtle.
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Post by Lupin the Third on Jun 26, 2015 22:38:35 GMT -5
I saw one of my friends on FB posting about how this ruling is showing that the government has too much power and is taking away rights from the states. I'm thinking, "Ah, so that's your spin on this." Another thought popped in of: "Tell you what. If Gay Marriage brings down the American Way of Life and brings forth the Apocalypse, I owe you a Coke."
I believe some people are forgetting the first few sentences of the Declaration of Independence: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
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Post by Lupin the Third on Jun 26, 2015 22:39:34 GMT -5
They can let gay people get married but they can't make a cup of coffee that tastes good? Congratulations to all Americans, especially northern. We're trying DAMMIT!!! But Coffee is hard to figure out!!
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Post by Welfare Willis on Jun 26, 2015 22:45:25 GMT -5
Not celebrating yet. I'm sure it'll be over turned again. From my lessons on the Supreme Court I learned they loathe having to overturn precedent of previous supreme court rulings. For example, different SCOTUS may have a different interpretation than previous Supreme Court decisions, but they rarely strike down their previous decisions outright. For example, Roe v Wade created the trimester standard for when states can intervene to protect life and stated abortion was a fundamental right (hence case regarding state laws regarding abortion would be judge under strict scrutiny), but that was dialed back over the years as SCOTUS turned more conservative during the 80s-90s. Justice O'Connor was actually pivotal to this as she set up the new standard. By Planned Parenthood v. Casey a plurality of justices affirmed the fundamental underpinnings of Roe v Wade, but lessened the level of scrutiny from fundamental right to "undue burden" and removed the trimester standard because of advanced medical technology. So the justices affirmed Roe v Wade, but gutted it at the same time. My point being to show how, over time, different SCOTUS may draw back or change laws. Can SCOTUS overturn it? As I stated I don't think it would be outright... and I really think SCOTUS would have to take a hard right turn. Still over time we will have more and more homosexuals marrying and this becoming more common. So I think it's highly unlikely.
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Post by ToyfareMark on Jun 26, 2015 23:04:09 GMT -5
This is a great thing and all, I'm just wondering whats gonna happen when straight guys start marrying each other to get tax credits. Because thats a brilliant idea.
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on Jun 26, 2015 23:04:32 GMT -5
As long as the government, in any form, was involved in any way with marriage, then this is the only correct outcome. The right way to solve this whole mess yeeeeeeaaaarrrrssss ago, was to remove the government entirely from the concept of marriage. Government should not recognize, and thereby give it legitimacy, to some weird religious concept such as marriage. No civil unions, no tax breaks, nada. If a church doesn't want to marry a gay couple, then that couple can move on to one that does. Or create their own church and perform marriages. The government should have nothing to do with it. Marriage was a business contract long before it had a thing to do with religion. And marriage via the government is still a contract. Hopefully now this means that gay spouses will be allowed in to see their loved ones when they are in the hospital. It was disgusting how many hospital staff refused to let them see their sick partners. Also, kudos to my Facebook friends for being pretty much unanimously awesome today.
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Post by Orange on Jun 26, 2015 23:28:58 GMT -5
This is really a day that should've come years ago, but honestly it's incredible how fast public perception on gay people has changed just in my lifetime. I'm 23, and just as little as 10 years ago something like this would've been absolutely inconceivable; being gay wasn't nearly as celebrated as it is today, actually it was demonized, but we truly are one step closer, as the President said, to making our union more perfect. Another thing that I always try to keep in mind when you look at something like this and go "why did this take so long?" is how young our country really is - I get that 239 years (well, almost, anyway) isn't that young, but in terms of countries it really is, and for being as young as we are we're making tremendous, tremendous progress. So, while it sucks it took this long, this is a day where I couldn't be more proud of my country, and it's pretty damn cool to be present for a day that'll be talked about 100 years from now. Party on, America.
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Post by xCompackx on Jun 26, 2015 23:29:54 GMT -5
As for the comments about possible overturning, I don't see how it'd benefit anyone to do so. Not only would it be seen as taking away freedoms (something that itself would become a huge case), but it'd just show the world that the United States of America can't take a firm stance on a societal issue.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jun 26, 2015 23:38:25 GMT -5
Party on, America. Be excellent to each other.
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Post by kidglov3s on Jun 26, 2015 23:40:01 GMT -5
As for the comments about possible overturning, I don't see how it'd benefit anyone to do so. Not only would it be seen as taking away freedoms (something that itself would become a huge case), but it'd just show the world that the United States of America can't take a firm stance on a societal issue. What we'll probably see, in terms of anything that's actually successful, are efforts to gradually chip away and erode the progress made today. That's how it's gone with abortion/reproductive rights.
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Jun 26, 2015 23:40:16 GMT -5
Absolutely f***ing fantastic news. I long for days when the issue of gay marriage is treated on a level with women being allowed to vote. As in future generations will look back on history and say "wait, there was a time when gay people couldn't marry? Why?". Should it have been legalised a long time ago? Yes. But as the old saying goes, "better late than never".
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Post by Orange on Jun 26, 2015 23:40:55 GMT -5
This is a great thing and all, I'm just wondering whats gonna happen when straight guys start marrying each other to get tax credits. Because thats a brilliant idea. Worked for Frank and Charlie
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Post by kidglov3s on Jun 26, 2015 23:42:25 GMT -5
Hopefully now this means that gay spouses will be allowed in to see their loved ones when they are in the hospital. It was disgusting how many hospital staff refused to let them see their sick partners. One thing I really like about my floor (at least, I guess I can't speak for the whole hospital as I only know my floor but I imagine it's similar) is that we never hassle anyone re: visitors. We allow visiting 24/hrs and we never harrass or exclude anyone except in situations when there's someone the patient specifically wants excluded. One thing that stuck in my craw with If I Stay was the bitchy nurse that wouldn't let the boyfriend see the girlfriend, because that's something that I've never ever seen happen.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2015 23:43:30 GMT -5
This is really a day that should've come years ago, but honestly it's incredible how fast public perception on gay people has changed just in my lifetime. I'm 23, and just as little as 10 years ago something like this would've been absolutely inconceivable; being gay wasn't nearly as celebrated as it is today, actually it was demonized, but we truly are one step closer, as the President said, to making our union more perfect. Another thing that I always try to keep in mind when you look at something like this and go "why did this take so long?" is how young our country really is - I get that 239 years (well, almost, anyway) isn't that young, but in terms of countries it really is, and for being as young as we are we're making tremendous, tremendous progress. So, while it sucks it took this long, this is a day where I couldn't be more proud of my country, and it's pretty damn cool to be present for a day that'll be talked about 100 years from now. Party on, America. While you're here, does this mean you, i and @irontyger can finally get this cyber wedding on with?
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Post by Malcolm on Jun 26, 2015 23:43:44 GMT -5
This is great news for gay people, and about damned time, too.
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Post by Orange on Jun 26, 2015 23:55:37 GMT -5
This is really a day that should've come years ago, but honestly it's incredible how fast public perception on gay people has changed just in my lifetime. I'm 23, and just as little as 10 years ago something like this would've been absolutely inconceivable; being gay wasn't nearly as celebrated as it is today, actually it was demonized, but we truly are one step closer, as the President said, to making our union more perfect. Another thing that I always try to keep in mind when you look at something like this and go "why did this take so long?" is how young our country really is - I get that 239 years (well, almost, anyway) isn't that young, but in terms of countries it really is, and for being as young as we are we're making tremendous, tremendous progress. So, while it sucks it took this long, this is a day where I couldn't be more proud of my country, and it's pretty damn cool to be present for a day that'll be talked about 100 years from now. Party on, America. While you're here, does this mean you, i and @irontyger can finally get this cyber wedding on with? Are you seriously asking me if I want to be a part of the first ever triple threat marriage featuring an Orangutan?
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Post by xCompackx on Jun 26, 2015 23:58:24 GMT -5
As for the comments about possible overturning, I don't see how it'd benefit anyone to do so. Not only would it be seen as taking away freedoms (something that itself would become a huge case), but it'd just show the world that the United States of America can't take a firm stance on a societal issue. What we'll probably see, in terms of anything that's actually successful, are efforts to gradually chip away and erode the progress made today. That's how it's gone with abortion/reproductive rights. I've already seen a couple articles about officials either not issuing marriage licenses at all or trying to cheat around the ruling by offering old forms with "bride" and "groom" spaces on them. Crazy how persistent some people can be when they don't get their way.
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Post by Super Duper Dragunov on Jun 26, 2015 23:59:36 GMT -5
YAY! I can finally get married anywhere!!!!
*looks around.....realizes I'm by myself....weeps*
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