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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2015 15:35:38 GMT -5
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Jul 7, 2015 15:39:35 GMT -5
Grr, people don't like things that I like.
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Post by Professor Chaos on Jul 7, 2015 15:43:52 GMT -5
Nah, what's bullshit is when someone condescendingly tells me "tough shit" for not liking something they like as though that's the objective standard to which everything is held. Your aggression is really unnecessary here. Well I'm sorry the quote went over your head and you took such great offense to it. If you watch it and don't like it fine. I think it's really unnecessary for the people who start off saying they haven't watched RAW/Impact in so and so long then proceed to bash the latest episode whenever anyone likes it. It's a weekly thing of negative and this mentality of everything sucks, but they didn't watch it though. |
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Post by Hot Noodle Truck on Jul 7, 2015 16:01:31 GMT -5
The only parts of Raw that I can't stand on a week to week basis are the Diva's matches and the Authority bullshit. The Authority because it's been going on for too damn long, and sadly the Diva matches are just throwaway 2 minute matches that do nothing for anyone involved. While there is a severe lack of progress going on storyline wise, the match quality on a week to week basis keeps me around.
I used to hate on the guy something fierce but now Cena is delivering amazing matches week in and week out. Cesaro gets some time to shine again as a singles star. Outside of the Authority, we're finally starting to see the new generation of stars rise up; seemingly lead by their faith in Owens, who is absolutely killing it right now in the ring and on the mic. There's usually more than enough going on to keep me entertained through a full 3 hours, as opposed to 2009-ish when I couldn't even make it through a full show.
Honestly (and I know I'm probably blowing this out of proportion) it just seems like the WWE section of the board is used for just straight up complaining. The TNA section exists for the sole purpose of mocking TNA as it goes down in flames. There are good points being made and good discussions to be had but damn man, it just feels bleak around here.
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Post by joeiscool on Jul 7, 2015 16:20:37 GMT -5
I kinda agree. For this board to be a wwe board it feels as if a lot of people do not like the WWE.
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Post by Milkman Norm on Jul 7, 2015 16:22:53 GMT -5
"Cena's gonna say shit on your network fffff and I know we're not supposed to say shit on your network ffff"
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Jul 7, 2015 16:24:57 GMT -5
Here's the fun thing about forums.
You don't have to enter threads about things you don't want to see.
Isn't technology neat?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2015 17:08:04 GMT -5
Lesnar isn't full-time. Punk is gone. D-Bry could be gone. Reigns isn't there yet. There has to be a full-time complete package #1 baby face for Cena to turn. Won't make the mistake of WM17. Owens is that guy if they play their cards right. He's got that natural fighters charisma that is easy to root for, and of course he kills it on the mic. If they can keep him and Cena feuding for another 6-8 months, they could pull off turning Owens face out of it. And once Owens is actually a face, THAT'S what finally pushes Cena over the edge. |
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Post by Bo Rida on Jul 7, 2015 17:08:59 GMT -5
Sure there are be some people criticising WWE who don't watch.
However most of the negative reactions comes from those that do watch and mostly with good reason.
A quick search and my bias memory shows these are some heavily praised things from this year. I think there's a common theme that if something feels fresh and is booked well people are positive. Raw this week was booked fairly well but was too similar to recent shows.
Beast In The East and it's production
Owens vs Cena (1), or just Owens in general
WM - Especially the cash-in
NXT Takeovers, plus a mostly positive attitude to NXT, especially the women's division
Royal Rumble triple-threat
Brock and Heyman in general
Balor and Itami documentaries
Titus, Owens and Graves on commentary
That time it snowed
The New Day (post WM)
The New Day vs Cesaro/Kidd
Rusev and Lana pre-split, Rusev post-split
Mizdow before that angle went downhill
Axelmania
Plus less universal praise for:
Reigns being handled better since WM
Cena's open challenge
Also more than one person has made appreciation threads for The Local Men
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Post by SUPES on Jul 7, 2015 17:40:34 GMT -5
Lesnar isn't full-time. Punk is gone. D-Bry could be gone. Reigns isn't there yet. There has to be a full-time complete package #1 baby face for Cena to turn. Won't make the mistake of WM17. Owens is that guy if they play their cards right. He's got that natural fighters charisma that is easy to root for, and of course he kills it on the mic. If they can keep him and Cena feuding for another 6-8 months, they could pull off turning Owens face out of it. And once Owens is actually a face, THAT'S what finally pushes Cena over the edge. Owens is a possibility but it has to wait until AFTER the inevitable conclusion to Zayn beating him. In fact, that can be when Owens turns face, truly humbled and understanding all the wrong he's done. Maybe Rollins once he does his redemption angle too, but Owens comes across as friendlier overall with the media and on Twitter. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2015 18:00:47 GMT -5
 Even if that and Owens winning the mid-card title did happen, that would just be the tip of the ice berg. WWE's flaws are systemic and go well beyond how 2 guys are booked. |
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Jul 7, 2015 20:06:46 GMT -5
Nah, what's bullshit is when someone condescendingly tells me "tough shit" for not liking something they like as though that's the objective standard to which everything is held. Your aggression is really unnecessary here. Well I'm sorry the quote went over your head and you took such great offense to it. Funny, something tells me that you're actually not. |
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Post by Dave at the Movies on Jul 8, 2015 1:12:22 GMT -5
How was this a good show? It had one really good match in John Cena VS Cesaro and it had a decent segment in Brock destroying a car. That was it. Everything else meant nothing and was just more of the same.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jul 8, 2015 1:21:22 GMT -5
How was this a good show? It had one really good match in John Cena VS Cesaro and it had a decent segment in Brock destroying a car. That was it. Everything else meant nothing and was just more of the same. I liked Miz's heckling during the Big Show/Ryback Match. It's the most I've enjoyed Miz since he started the Hollywood act because he toned down the fake mannerisms (that were mostly for Sandow's benefit) and started acting more like the Miz of old. |
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Post by Dave at the Movies on Jul 8, 2015 1:26:44 GMT -5
How was this a good show? It had one really good match in John Cena VS Cesaro and it had a decent segment in Brock destroying a car. That was it. Everything else meant nothing and was just more of the same. I liked Miz's heckling during the Big Show/Ryback Match. It's the most I've enjoyed Miz since he started the Hollywood act because he toned down the fake mannerisms (that were mostly for Sandow's benefit) and started acting more like the Miz of old. Yeah I like Miz and think he is really underrated but I knew he was going to interfere in the match. It is basically exactly what we got at the last PPV. |
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Post by Professor Chaos on Jul 8, 2015 1:32:46 GMT -5
How was this a good show? It had one really good match in John Cena VS Cesaro and it had a decent segment in Brock destroying a car. That was it. Everything else meant nothing and was just more of the same. Loved the We Bolieve chants, Miz, Titus ripping on JBL, Owens ripping Cena, Cena vs Cesaro, Bellas owning Paige, forget what else but I enjoyed it for 3 hours. Also some people missed the point of my profanity laced tirade was mimicking Cena turning into Bret snapping but alas. |
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Post by Fauxnaki on Jul 8, 2015 3:29:20 GMT -5
Nah, what's bullshit is when someone condescendingly tells me "tough shit" for not liking something they like as though that's the objective standard to which everything is held. Your aggression is really unnecessary here. Well I'm sorry the quote went over your head and you took such great offense to it. If you watch it and don't like it fine. I think it's really unnecessary for the people who start off saying they haven't watched RAW/Impact in so and so long then proceed to bash the latest episode whenever anyone likes it. It's a weekly thing of negative and this mentality of everything sucks, but they didn't watch it though. this is what you said about raw last week "RAW bored me so bad it took me 3 attempts to finish watching as I kept falling asleep. Fact." yet your having a dig at people for not enjoying the current product |
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jul 8, 2015 4:15:05 GMT -5
Honestly, I tend to avoid this forum until after I've seen a show in full if it's one I'm going to watch live or I care about the results.
I love Botchamania, but I think it's contributed to creating a culture of even the slightest mistake being called out by EVERYONE.
Cole mispronounced a Japanese name! WHAT AN ASSHOLE! Despite that being the best night of commentary he's done since MITB 2011, or possibly ever.
I was originally tweeting along with Beast In The East but I just gave up when I saw how many people were just tweeting petty criticisms instead of appreciating the good stuff.
This forum has, for the most part, much more thoughtful discussion than that, but there are always people who are hugely negative about any show that I like because of differing opinions, and I'd much rather drop into the show cold and experience it with my own feelings, instead of expecting something to be good or not good. I think that's better for all of us honestly, so we can form our own opinions on everything without being subconsciously influenced.
I mean, I still think that the 2015 Rumble match was pretty great outside of the finish...
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Post by machomuta on Jul 8, 2015 4:30:30 GMT -5
Outside of the main event I found it to be another shit-show in a long, long line of 'em. And yet you still watch it every week. Why watch something you hate? |
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Post by Fauxnaki on Jul 8, 2015 5:09:02 GMT -5
Outside of the main event I found it to be another shit-show in a long, long line of 'em. And yet you still watch it every week. Why watch something you hate? if someones willing to watch a wrestling show (a 3 hour one at that) they are not particularly fond off with the hopes of seeing at least one good match it means they love wrestling |
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