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Post by Eunös ✈ on Oct 12, 2015 17:43:13 GMT -5
Alright good start to the season.
Not as good as Season 5's opener but good none the less.
I quite liked the Black and White for the past and Colour for what is currently happening.
Should have known things were going to well, shit's about to go down.
Good start look forward to the rest of the season.
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Post by LuchaBella on Oct 12, 2015 18:05:33 GMT -5
Decent episode. Don't like the black and white though. Just stick with colour, we're in 2015, not 1915. Wonder whose setting the horn off, I guessed The Wolves at first but after saying it's from Alexandria I'm guessing Ron. Scott Simple and Greg Nicotero said that they did the flashbacks in black and white to separate the past from the present day. They didn't want to confuse anyone, which makes complete sense.
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Post by Display Name on Oct 12, 2015 18:22:14 GMT -5
I fell asleep during it.I never do that with anything.I've watched the past two seasons purely out of habit, I think it's time I finally tap out.I'll give it another go when Negan shows up.
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Post by celticjobber on Oct 13, 2015 1:49:54 GMT -5
On Facebook someone made a point of mentioning the sneak peak of next weeks episode {Spoiler}{Spoiler}You see a girl in a car covered with blood and it's almost as if he's waking up. Maybe she was unconscious and had her head on the horn? That is most likely {Spoiler}Enid. Spoilers by fans near the set when they filmed next week's episode indicate that they filmed Enid's backstory with a man and woman (presumably her parents) in a car. Then Enid is stuck in the car watching as they're devoured by walkers.
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Post by Brood Lone Wolf Funker on Oct 13, 2015 10:46:47 GMT -5
What if it's Gabriel blowing that damn horn
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Post by thetower52 on Oct 13, 2015 12:01:20 GMT -5
What if it's Gabriel blowing that damn horn I want them to end him so bad I hate Gabriel
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Post by pegasuswarrior on Oct 13, 2015 12:38:49 GMT -5
I have a question. Maybe you all can help.
I really appreciate the wide ranging scope and atmosphere of desperation and hopelessness that this series brings. I know this has been done somewhere out there, but I am interested to see if there is a fan expert who has broken down the zombie to human ratio of this show. That is, it seems so overwhelming at times that I wonder how many of them there might be out there. I am thinking of the law of diminishing returns. In a sense. sometimes humans get damaged beyond repair, beyond reanimation. and then you have a high number of kills to survival ratio with Rick and his group. if some groups are taking out their fair share of walkers, I wonder if there is an Internet estimate out there as to whether or not the zombie population is outgrowing the number of kills. And more to the point, are the chances for survival increasing?
Random thought on a Tuesday as I drive down an interstate. Is the United States so flooded with zombies that it is likely that I would run into one every few miles? It seems like we're at the stage in the show where part of the scare, a big part of the scare, is the barren wasteland that it has become. Not just the amount of zombies. Are we on a zombie growth decline or plateau or are the numbers more staggering than ever?
Unrelated comment. Just a comment. The season six premiere is a huge welcome. It really puts in perspective how bad and off that the other series is. It really ticks me off in a sense if I'm watching the other show. But now, I'm just happy to get the real world of the walkers back.
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Post by Stu on Oct 13, 2015 12:49:34 GMT -5
The ratio most tossed around is 5,000 walkers per each human. We know the southeast and Los Angeles are infected. Fear the Walking Dead referenced several states that also had reports of the initial virus outbreak (can't remember which ones).
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Post by pegasuswarrior on Oct 13, 2015 12:53:34 GMT -5
The ratio most tossed around is 5,000 walkers per each human. We know the southeast and Los Angeles are infected. Fear the Walking Dead referenced several states that also had reports of the initial virus outbreak (can't remember which ones). So that would mean around 63 to 65,000 humans still left walking the US. See, that's very interesting to me. I just wonder if that ratio has dwindled, keeps growing at a high rate, or remains steady. In other words, are the survivors fighting the good fight? It's just interesting to me. When you put it in those terms, there is no way that each member of the group has killed 5000. Could they get to 5000 a piece? That's the real question isn't it? Appreciate the reply, Stu. One addendum to my original comment above. Would've been nice to see the group sell the smell factor a lot more during the quarry discovery. That number of walkers confined to such a small proximity. It would have to be insane levels of reeking. Especially the kid who has little to no experience with that.
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Post by thetower52 on Oct 13, 2015 12:58:30 GMT -5
Do they ever mention about Canada and Mexico? Those both could send walkers up north or south to add more
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Post by Eunös ✈ on Oct 13, 2015 13:09:53 GMT -5
My apologies if this has already been brought up. But I wonder if we will get this in the next few episode Comic related - Carl {Spoiler} It's around this time it happens, although it depends if they can be bothered to CG it from here on in. Rick still has both his hands in the show so I suppose Carls Eye could be spared. We shall see.
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Post by CM Parish on Oct 13, 2015 13:33:06 GMT -5
Where the hell was Carl anyway?
And why would Ron sound a horn?
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Post by Stu on Oct 13, 2015 14:18:47 GMT -5
My apologies if this has already been brought up. But I wonder if we will get this in the next few episode Comic related - Carl {Spoiler}{Spoiler} It's around this time it happens, although it depends if they can be bothered to CG it from here on in. Rick still has both his hands in the show so I suppose Carls Eye could be spared. We shall see. Maybe they'll injure it just enough to make him need an eye patch instead of all those bandages. Just punch him in the eye hard enough for him to lose his vision
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Post by LuchaBella on Oct 13, 2015 14:23:29 GMT -5
Do they ever mention about Canada and Mexico? Those both could send walkers up north or south to add more I think when they were at the CDC, Jenner had said that other countries in Europe were the last to have communications. So I'm assuming then that all countries are full of walkers, meaning Mexico and Canada are both full of walkers too, thus maybe some coming to the states. And when you think of the billions of people in America, and think of how few (at least that we know of) survivors are left, yikes, the odds don't seem that great. In regards to the smell factor, at this point, they are a couple years in now, so I'd assume they're so used to it by now. When Abraham and Glenn and the group came upon the ranch last season, they didn't smell it till the wind blew it their way.
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Post by Eunös ✈ on Oct 13, 2015 14:32:52 GMT -5
Makes sense, kinda similar to what they did with the governor.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2015 14:46:55 GMT -5
I think with the sheer numbers of people infected, the survivors are basically in a "wait it out" scenario.
To go on the offensive right now would probably only result in more dead humans/new zombies.
You just have to hope you can play defense and surivive long enough for the rate of decay in zombies to render the first wave incapictated.
Unless the zombie virus causes a slowed decay process, most of the first wave zombies should have lost all muscle mass in the first few months and within a year they'd basically be dry bones (depending on climate).
As of the most recent season, its been about a year and a half since the outbreak, which means most of the initial walkers are probably incapacitated. The problem with infection is that it is ever-present. No matter how someone dies, they always come back as zombies so that could always spark a new outbreak.
Putting that aside, there's actually a fairly bright glimmer of hope in all this as the first outbreak was likely the largest and that spread outward from heavily populated areas into rural areas. That means that if the rate of decay holds true, the actual number of walkers should begin to decline without humans having to kill them in the next 6 months or so (depending on rate of initial infection).
Within another year (in the show's timeline, not next season) the number of zombies should be scarce enough that an actual attempt to retake portions of the united states wouldn't be outright suicide.
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Post by pegasuswarrior on Oct 13, 2015 15:46:59 GMT -5
The ratio most tossed around is 5,000 walkers per each human. We know the southeast and Los Angeles are infected. Fear the Walking Dead referenced several states that also had reports of the initial virus outbreak (can't remember which ones).] So that would mean around 63 to 65,000 humans still left walking the US. See, that's very interesting to me. I just wonder if that ratio has dwindled, keeps growing at a high rate, or remains steady. In other words, are the survivors fighting the good fight? It's just interesting to me. When you put it in those terms, there is no way that each member of the group has killed 5000. Could they get to 5000 a piece? That's the real question isn't it? Random addition to this. Using the figures that Stu cited and then I followed up with, by ratio, Montana would have around 200 people total alive. That is a huge huge state. Now, one could argue that their numbers and survival rate would actually be higher because of the lesser densely populated area. It is an interesting discussion to consider what might be happening and those sparsely populated areas. But if the numbers held consistent across the board. Montana would have around 200 people left alive. That's pretty mind blowing.
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Post by chronocross on Oct 14, 2015 11:14:02 GMT -5
Maybe I missed it but have they showed the character Holly on screen yet?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2015 11:23:15 GMT -5
I don't think so, I've heard them say her name a few times, but never actually seen her on screen.
I thought they remixed her into Francine after last season when Abraham took over the construction crew.
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Post by MichaelMartini on Oct 14, 2015 21:06:34 GMT -5
The ratio most tossed around is 5,000 walkers per each human. We know the southeast and Los Angeles are infected. Fear the Walking Dead referenced several states that also had reports of the initial virus outbreak (can't remember which ones).] So that would mean around 63 to 65,000 humans still left walking the US. See, that's very interesting to me. I just wonder if that ratio has dwindled, keeps growing at a high rate, or remains steady. In other words, are the survivors fighting the good fight? It's just interesting to me. When you put it in those terms, there is no way that each member of the group has killed 5000. Could they get to 5000 a piece? That's the real question isn't it? Random addition to this. Using the figures that Stu cited and then I followed up with, by ratio, Montana would have around 200 people total alive. That is a huge huge state. Now, one could argue that their numbers and survival rate would actually be higher because of the lesser densely populated area. It is an interesting discussion to consider what might be happening and those sparsely populated areas. But if the numbers held consistent across the board. Montana would have around 200 people left alive. That's pretty mind blowing. But there are a lot of survivalist militia types in Montana. I'd like to think they'd be one of the best situated states to deal with the zombies.
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