Amazing Spider-man 3 woulda been.. interesting

[Kevin Hamilton]

Venom, bringing characters back from the dead, and more.

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‘Amazing Spider-Man 3’ Would Have Included Venom, Brought Characters Back From the Dead
by Britt Hayes July 12, 2015 3:00 PM | ScreenCrush
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Before Marvel and Sony reached their highly-anticipated agreement to combine forces for a Spider-Man reboot, there was a lot of confusion about where the web-slinger was headed. We saw some of that in the e-mails following the Sony hack, accompanied by rumors about potential character returns and various spinoff plans. Now that director Marc Webb and the cast have moved on, they’ve begun to clarify what a third Amazing Spider-Man film would have been like.

While at Comic-Con to promote CBS’ Limitless series (for which he directed the pilot), Webb was asked about what we might have seen in The Amazing Spider-Man 3. The director told MTV that we would have learned more about that guy in the hat, and we could have seen his version of Venom:

There’s the man in the hat, this obscure character called The Gentleman, who gets the Sinister Six together. That would’ve been fun to play out. Venom, obviously I would’ve been curious to see.

Drew Goddard was writing the Sinister Six spinoff for Sony, though it’s unclear if that’s still going to happen — or if the studio is tinkering with those plans now that they’re rebooting Spidey again with Marvel.

Webb’s explanation about his plans seems totally in keeping with the path he had laid out, but then things get weird in IGN’s interview with Denis Leary, who played Captain Stacy in The Amazing Spider-Man. Stacy was killed in the first film, followed by the tragic demise of Emma Stone’s Gwen Stacy in the sequel. As it turns out, they both might have returned for The Amazing Spider-Man 3:

Possibly in 3, there was this idea at one point that Spider-Man would be able to take this formula and regenerate the people in his life that had died. So, there was this discussion that Captain Stacy would come back even bigger in episode 3.

That sounds totally bonkers, but there were rumors circulating last year that Sony wanted to bring Stone back to reprise her role as Gwen in a third film — that makes sense at a studio level, given that the relationship between Andrew Garfield’s Peter and Stone’s Gwen was the only successful element of both films. On a narrative level? Not so much.

So, while I enjoyed both of Webb's flicks, flaws and all; this woulda been wacky.

[Zone Was Wrong]

They shouldn't have killed her off in the first place imo. Mary Jane really isn't as important to the story of Spider-Man anymore with the retconning of their marriage. Might as well kept one of the best parts of the movies.

[A Platypus Rave]

Carnage in the Ultimate Universe was a Gwen Stacy clone at one point.

So I'm assuming that is where this would be going.

[bigjohnsons]

It sounds good on paper but it would be a another generic Spider-Man movie

[BlackoutCreature]

Jul 12, 2015 16:15:20 GMT -5 Zone Was Wrong said:

They shouldn't have killed her off in the first place imo. Mary Jane really isn't as important to the story of Spider-Man anymore with the retconning of their marriage. Might as well kept one of the best parts of the movies.

The thing that nobody remembers is that the reason Gwen Stacy's death was so important and well remembered in the comics is because it was unexpected and things like that just didn't happen to a superheroes love interest at the time. But over time her death became her only defining attribute and whenever she shows up in any kind of adaptation she's just expected to die. Any meaning or impact her death might have to the story or characters is just lost because she only lives to die.

As for the Marc Webb movies, I've gone on record saying I felt Amazing 1 was easily the best of the five Spider-Man movies, and I'm very sad that a bad sequel basically killed that version of the franchise. That said it might've been for the best because how they were looking to continue the story doesn't sound all that interesting. This really sounds like it was heading into Clone Saga territory, and as much as I've always said I've always wanted to see someone make something genuinely entertaining from that mess, this doesn't sound like it would've done it.

The one thing I would've liked to have seen is their version of Venom, as I feel he really could've thrived in the universe the Amazing movies created.

[A Platypus Rave]

Jul 12, 2015 17:18:55 GMT -5 BlackoutCreature said:

Jul 12, 2015 16:15:20 GMT -5 Zone Was Wrong said:

They shouldn't have killed her off in the first place imo. Mary Jane really isn't as important to the story of Spider-Man anymore with the retconning of their marriage. Might as well kept one of the best parts of the movies.

The thing that nobody remembers is that the reason Gwen Stacy's death was so important and well remembered in the comics is because it was unexpected and things like that just didn't happen to a superheroes love interest at the time. But over time her death became her only defining attribute and whenever she shows up in any kind of adaptation she's just expected to die. Any meaning or impact her death might have to the story or characters is just lost because she only lives to die.

Also her death changed like everything with the books.

Mary Jane stopped being the flakey party girl, Osborne became THE big bad, Spider-man felt responsible for the death for years afterwards.

She was damned important (not to mention around for years)

Now they bring her in for a very limited time and then kill her off immediately so it holds NONE of the weight.

[Kevin Hamilton]

Her death in the movies really felt like they did it just because they were 'supposed' to. At the very least, they should've waited till the third one. All of the Harry stuff needed way more development. In a way, it really felt like they went: "Well, people know he becomes bad, so we can speed right through it."

[Deleted]

Wouldn't Captain Stacy be really decomposed? Why not bring back Uncle Ben or his parents?

[Jedi-El of Tomorrow]

Jul 12, 2015 18:34:18 GMT -5 A Platypus Rave said:

Jul 12, 2015 17:18:55 GMT -5 BlackoutCreature said:

The thing that nobody remembers is that the reason Gwen Stacy's death was so important and well remembered in the comics is because it was unexpected and things like that just didn't happen to a superheroes love interest at the time. But over time her death became her only defining attribute and whenever she shows up in any kind of adaptation she's just expected to die. Any meaning or impact her death might have to the story or characters is just lost because she only lives to die.

Also her death changed like everything with the books.

Mary Jane stopped being the flakey party girl, Osborne became THE big bad, Spider-man felt responsible for the death for years afterwards.

She was damned important (not to mention around for years)

Now they bring her in for a very limited time and then kill her off immediately so it holds NONE of the weight.

Also nobody wanted her to die. Everyone knew she was going to die, but very few if anyone wanted it to happen. People wanted Sony to say "f*** it, in this version of Spider-Man, he winds up with Gwen." And the big reasons people wanted that to happen were the fact she was awesome and actually helped Spidey out, and the chemistry between Garfield and Stone was insane.

I will always say that Gwen's death killed the Amazing Spider-Man franchise. A lot of the problems with the 2nd one could have been forgiven, till they killed Gwen. After that, those problems just got bigger. News of the death broke out, and people didn't want to see the movie.

[StormanReigns]

Excluding the Peter Parker character I thought the Amazing Spider-Man series was far better casted. Better Aunt May, better lover interest (Emma Stone is just far more likable than Kirsten Dunst) and I did enjoy the more serious tone.

Outside of Peter, in the first 3 Spider-Man films, no one is likable at all. Mary Jane cheated on everyone she was with, Aunt May shunned Peter after realizing that Pete was there when he died (this made no sense, it's not like Pete shot him), The Sandman tried to murder half of New York, yet we were supposed to feel sorry for him?

I get why people love the original Spider-Man movies. It had cool moments, but it was far from a masterpiece

[Deleted]

..........well, considering One More Day crapped that whole "great power/great responsibility" mantra out a dead raccoon's butt all over a Montana backroad, I guess anything's on the table as far as Spider-Man goes from now on.

[Deleted]

I didn't like 2, but have been an advocate of the idea that rebooting's stupid and it had the potential for a good sequel.

Now, though I still think rebooting it right now's idiotic, I'm at least slightly more open to the idea.

[sternrogers01]

Jul 12, 2015 16:15:20 GMT -5 Zone Was Wrong said:

They shouldn't have killed her off in the first place imo. Mary Jane really isn't as important to the story of Spider-Man anymore with the retconning of their marriage. Might as well kept one of the best parts of the movies.

That's bunk. Mary Jane is a great character in her own right, the only reason she does'nt seem all that important now independent of Peter is because Marvel don't do jack with her. It's a creative problem, less to do with character.

Stan never retconned the marriage either, she and Peter have been hitched for 28 years in the newspapers. OMD accomplished nothing except turn the main book into a glorified AU.

And Gwen is only the "best part" of the movie because her character borrowed elements of Ultimate Mary Jane. The original Gwen was always a bland and uninteresting character and is best known for her death and (as of recently) having Goblin sex.

[MC Blowfish]

ASM 2 was awful. It could have been great. Even with Gwen dying which made the story really hit hard with the some realism. However the pacing was off, and they tried to do too much in too little of time.

[Non Banjoble Tokens]

Jul 12, 2015 17:09:46 GMT -5 bigjohnsons said:

It sounds good on paper but it would be a another generic Spider-Man movie

It does?