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Post by mcstoklasa on Jul 23, 2015 11:30:51 GMT -5
Mayeb Sting distracts Taker, Brock beats him and sets up the WM32 match?
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Jul 23, 2015 11:32:12 GMT -5
This is the very definition of the whole "new guys don't f***ing matter" shit that's crippled this company.
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Post by Chiral on Jul 23, 2015 11:32:42 GMT -5
Can WWE stop planning their Wrestlemania card around now? Planning ahead is good but their idea of planning ahead is basically putting a spotlight up of what they're gonna do, then just kinda napping through September through January and then starting again.
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Post by mcstoklasa on Jul 23, 2015 11:33:47 GMT -5
Can we just have f***ing Reigns beat Brock instead?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2015 11:49:17 GMT -5
Did they not learn from WCW and TNA that relying on old guys is a bad idea? Just...mind boggling.
At least it can go in the LOLWWE thread.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Jul 23, 2015 11:54:14 GMT -5
Can we just have f***ing Reigns beat Brock instead? Honestly, now that he's getting cheered, I don't see why not. Have him come out, call Brock out saying that because of Seth, he never got to prove that he could beat Lesnar, and he wants to make good on that promise. It's not a hard story to tell. It's dead f***ing simple and completely logical, in fact.
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Post by gl83 on Jul 23, 2015 11:55:12 GMT -5
Can we just have f***ing Reigns beat Brock instead? WWE: No! We tried that earlier this year and the fans hated it, so we'll just have 'Taker beat Lesnar instead.
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Post by The Beast Disincarnate on Jul 23, 2015 11:58:09 GMT -5
2006 Undertaker vs Brock would have been a badass fight. 2015 Bald Beer belly hairy back Undertaker vs Brock is boring as hell.
The fight only comes 10 years too late.
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Post by CuJ0 Will Keep Dancing on Jul 23, 2015 11:58:30 GMT -5
I would love it if Undertaker got like 0 offense in the match, like Brock just straight up demolishes him.
I know Undertaker is a legend and all that but f*** it, it would be awesome and makes the guy that does beat Brock clean look like a million dollars.
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Post by Chiral on Jul 23, 2015 12:07:44 GMT -5
Can we just have f***ing Reigns beat Brock instead? WWE: No! We tried that earlier this year and the fans hated it, so we'll just have 'Taker beat Lesnar instead. WWE: Because it's either A or B and if you didn't like the way we did those two options you can never be pleased! Other options? We gave you two whole options! Also has Undertaker ever beaten Lesnar? I'm pretty sure he never has on PPV.
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Post by mcstoklasa on Jul 23, 2015 12:12:51 GMT -5
WWE: No! We tried that earlier this year and the fans hated it, so we'll just have 'Taker beat Lesnar instead. WWE: Because it's either A or B and if you didn't like the way we did those two options you can never be pleased! Other options? We gave you two whole options! Also has Undertaker ever beaten Lesnar? I'm pretty sure he never has on PPV. If he couldn't beat a rookie Brock in 2002, and then got demolished by Brock in 2014. Then what the hell is THE BEAST, THE CONQUEROR, BROOOOOOOOOOCK LESNAAAAAAAAR, GOING TO DO TO HIM AT SUMMERSLAM IN 2015!!
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Post by Session Moth is over on Jul 23, 2015 12:15:47 GMT -5
This is so stupid I don't actually believe it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2015 12:26:12 GMT -5
"You didn't want Reigns to beat Lesnar at Mania? Fine. Here's your alternative".
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jul 23, 2015 12:32:55 GMT -5
I don't hate Taker or anything, but man, him coming back just seems to throw everything off-center, and not in a good way.
Brock should be looking to get Rollins in a cage, for the last time before they build up Cesaro, Rusev, Reigns, or Ambrose to face him. But he has to waste time with Taker.
Cena should be defending the US title in a 4-way against Owens, Cesaro, and Rusev, as they seemed to be building up towards that. But now he's attached to Rollins.
Reigns has been dragged into the Wyatt Zone, where nobody ever leaves better than they came in (including Wyatt himself), and Dean Ambrose (who already had nothing to do after MitB) is probably spinning his wheels with Luke Harper of all people. And though it's nice that Harper has something to do now, he should be mixing it up on the Cesaro/Rusev/Owens level.
Taker's return has shoved Cena up a tier higher on the card than he should be, and everyone else down one tier lower than they should.
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Post by mcstoklasa on Jul 23, 2015 12:37:45 GMT -5
I don't hate Taker or anything, but man, him coming back just seems to throw everything off-center, and not in a good way. Brock should be looking to get Rollins in a cage, for the last time before they build up Cesaro, Rusev, Reigns, or Ambrose to face him. But he has to waste time with Taker. Cena should be defending the US title in a 4-way against Owens, Cesaro, and Rusev, as they seemed to be building up towards that. But now he's attached to Rollins. Reigns has been dragged into the Wyatt Zone, where nobody ever leaves better than they came in (including Wyatt himself), and Dean Ambrose (who already had nothing to do after MitB) is probably spinning his wheels with Luke Harper of all people. And though it's nice that Harper has something to do now, he should be mixing it up on the Cesaro/Rusev/Owens level. Taker's return has shoved Cena up a tier higher on the card than he should be, and everyone else down one tier lower than they should. I hate to be negative, because I enjoy WWE. But man... Cena being World champ at Summerslam and Taker defeating the conqueror? Disappointing. Worst of all, just like that awful HHH feud, we might be seeing mulitple Brock/Taker matches. Vince, Brock can still go. He's in his prime. Can we please see him against fresher opponents.
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Post by Tea & Crumpets on Jul 23, 2015 13:16:58 GMT -5
Can we just have f***ing Reigns beat Brock instead? I didn't want it at WM31, but honestly in hindsight I'd rather Reigns had toppled Brock if the payoff to the Streak being broken is The Undertaker gets his win back. Makes the entire goddamn thing meaningless. But if they have to have 3 matches....I'd have Brock murk him in both. Squash Taker at Summerslam worse than Cena. Rematch at WM32....Brock still wins. Taker retires. Then let someone new, please someone under 40, please, someone who'll be around for the future regularly, get the rub from Brock. Brock being finally beaten by Taker is the worst of WCW.
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Post by amethyst on Jul 23, 2015 13:23:14 GMT -5
What is to be gained from having a man on his last legs as far as pro-wrestling goes getting a win over a man who still has a good 5-10 years left in the tank as a beast, only Uncle Vince knows..
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Post by mcstoklasa on Jul 23, 2015 13:27:06 GMT -5
I'll say it again. Have Brock beat Reigns in a rematch at Summerslam next year in a very close match. Have Reigns beat him clean, changing up his game plan, at Mania 33.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2015 13:32:26 GMT -5
Not to sound like CM Punk or anything, but we seriously can't have someone new or new-ish start ripping people's asses apart and flat out killing people for months and months, and have Brock be the ultimate test, and have him pass the torch of badassery? I mean I will admit, the big brawling segment did get me excited for the match, but the possibility of Taker being the one to stop the most dominant run in modern day wrestling history, that really irks me more then a little bit. This requires foresight. And effort. And faith in a talent who isn't already a big star. These things do not exist here.
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Post by thecrusherwi on Jul 23, 2015 13:37:21 GMT -5
WWE reminds me of career mode on UFC Unleashed 2010, when you get late in your career, and the game never inserts any new guys into the scene, so everyone is like 45 years old and has fought everyone 10 times.
I am legitimately confused why this company sees no value in their younger talent. But they're probably right. There is no risk for your main event level to all get old at once. The transition worked great for WCW in 2000
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