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Post by Harry The Arrow was Wrong! on Jul 24, 2015 12:53:59 GMT -5
Honestly I'm not really surprised. The guy is a complete asshole.
That being said, reading the transcript made me feel real uneasy. Absolutely horrible shit.
Glad he was fired. Hopefully we never see him back again.
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Post by LuchaBella on Jul 24, 2015 12:54:23 GMT -5
So I'll say this. I posted earlier when I hadn't heard this report. I still don't think Hogan's a racist. I think He was having a hard time dealing with his daughters situation. Which can make people crazy. I'm sure that everyone here has said something in the privacy of their own home or even a friends home that they would not say in public. And if you say you won't I'll call it a lie. Everyone is a little bit racist about something or some people. But I don't think that everyone is a bad person. hogan is old as hell too. That generation is kinda screwed up in that way. Do I think he's an idiot for saying that stuff? Yeah. Did he say things that make him look like a fool. Yes. However I feel like he's getting shoved under the bus over something he said in private that is really none of our or anyone else's business. This just pisses me off that it's that big of a deal. I dunno I jut feel like the over sensitivity is a crazy epidemic and people need to chill How is it over sensitivity? People of non Caucasian ethnicities have been dealing with racism for SO LONG. It gets old. People excuse people's racism all the time saying things like "that's just the way they are/were raised/the time they grew up in/etc.", when is enough enough? Its not over sensitivity when you have to deal with it on a daily basis. The people who defend Hogan saying that he's not racist because they're black and he's their friend are delusional if they think for one second, that he doesn't say racist shit behind their backs. He probably says crap like, "hey brother, Dennis Rodman's pretty cool... For a black guy." Get real people.
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Post by trollrogue on Jul 24, 2015 12:54:27 GMT -5
I have no words. You really don't understand the history of the word if you think anything you just said should actually happen. Thank you. Everyone talks about history this and that. If the only counter you have to speaking freely is because of things people did a long time ago makes you feel uncomfortable I can't agree with such a limited worldview. I am the one in control with how I live my life. I don't make my decisions based on ghosts of the past.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Jul 24, 2015 12:56:03 GMT -5
Small time-out here people.
Getting heated. I was told I should move a set of posts, I thought it'd be fine. I was wrong seemingly.
Ok so what we're going to do is give you guys a minute to collect your thoughts and turn down the tempers.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Jul 24, 2015 13:08:53 GMT -5
Some things to remember going forward: This is a powerful word.
It's debatable on both sides who is "in the right" between depowering an evil word vs respecting the struggles of the past over it.
That is an important discussion, but both sides are pretty unmovable (just based on the last 10 minutes here) so maybe the discussion doesn't exist so much as two sets of people telling at each other, one about respect, the other about what is "allowed". Either way this isn't the place for that.
All of this does indeed prove the power of it though. That's undebatable. It is strong, ugly, and has the power to rip apart self worth, happiness, and the feeling of safety. Even if you disagree with the word's effect, respect the fact that others believe that wholeheartedly.
Now let's unlock this... and settle it down a tad.
Understand the power that it holds and tread lightly with it. Thank you.
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Post by The Ichi on Jul 24, 2015 13:09:59 GMT -5
THAT WAS MORE THAN A MINUTE
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Post by Big Poppa Pumpkin on Jul 24, 2015 13:10:18 GMT -5
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Post by Jacy Derangement Syndrome on Jul 24, 2015 13:11:36 GMT -5
We tend to get a bit on edge without food to talk about in these situations.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Jul 24, 2015 13:12:15 GMT -5
THAT WAS MORE THAN A MINUTE I GOT DISTRACTED WITH FEEDING MY BABY OATMEAL! Well he didn't actually eat it, that's a lie. He stared at me stupid with his lips pursed. It's one of those days. ~~
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Post by nisidhe on Jul 24, 2015 13:14:24 GMT -5
To again take a different angle on this, how does WWE "sell" the WrestleMania history? Hogan was a major force during the first nine. We could argue that 8, at least, focused more on Savage-Flair, and that 9 ended with Bret losing the belt to Yokozuna, but will this become only more proof to the McMahons that focusing on one guy to be the One might be a mistake?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2015 13:14:32 GMT -5
THAT WAS MORE THAN A MINUTE I GOT DISTRACTED WITH FEEDING MY BABY OATMEAL! Well he didn't actually eat it, that's a lie. He stared at me stupid with his lips pursed. It's one of those days. ~~ Oatmeal is 98.9% disgusting most of the time. You're a monster!
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Post by dav on Jul 24, 2015 13:14:42 GMT -5
So, just making sure I've got this straight, a private conversation eight years ago where Hogan used various racially charged terms and words was leaked recently and he's been fired over that, correct?
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jul 24, 2015 13:14:43 GMT -5
We tend to get a bit on edge without food to talk about in these situations. I don't think we can just "chicken" this. It's not comparable to Havok's incident at all. Havok just said dumb shit that she thought was funny. Hogan is a straight up racist.
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Post by Sephiroth on Jul 24, 2015 13:15:01 GMT -5
We tend to get a bit on edge without food to talk about in these situations. I'm planning on making me a cornish game hen tonight
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Post by Welfare Willis on Jul 24, 2015 13:15:24 GMT -5
We tend to get a bit on edge without food to talk about in these situations. Again, PASTAMANIA!
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Post by Hot Noodle Truck on Jul 24, 2015 13:15:45 GMT -5
We tend to get a bit on edge without food to talk about in these situations. Hulk Hogan ruined my love of all things pasta related. Even lasagna. Lasagna!
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Post by Big Poppa Pumpkin on Jul 24, 2015 13:16:50 GMT -5
Time to boycott pasta, milk, vitamins and prayers.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jul 24, 2015 13:17:15 GMT -5
I think we need to lighten the mood, and maybe show some love to each other, so here you go.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Jul 24, 2015 13:19:12 GMT -5
You people all talk craaazy! Hank Hogan not racist! Is black comedy! Is good!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2015 13:19:25 GMT -5
I'm not going to judge Hulk. Still a Hulkamaniac. Always will be.
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