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Post by 543Y2J on Jul 27, 2015 22:21:46 GMT -5
I hated that but I don't think that spot during Rollins/Cena should be compared to that Edwards/Richards spot. Rollins uses his momentum from his superplex to hit Cena with a falcon arrow after. Edwards straight up no sells Richards superplex and delivers his own over the top rope, nullifying both big moves. Just shows how amazing Rollins is in the ring to me. Its a perfectly acceptable transition in my book and a creative one at that. Like I said it's momentum and not no selling in the Rollins/Cena case.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 27, 2015 22:23:39 GMT -5
I hated that but I don't think that spot during Rollins/Cena should be compared to that Edwards/Richards spot. Rollins uses his momentum from his superplex to hit Cena with a falcon arrow after. Edwards straight up no sells Richards superplex and delivers his own over the top rope, nullifying both big moves. Just shows how amazing Rollins is in the ring to me. Its a perfectly acceptable transition in my book and a creative one at that. Like I said it's momentum and not no selling in the Rollins/Cena case. But then Cena kicked out and won so... F*** anything cool that the WWE Champion Seth Rollins could actually do, because Cena wins and will kick out of EVERYTHING!
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Post by MAD TITAN on Jul 27, 2015 22:26:39 GMT -5
So Cena makes Owens and Rollins both tap out within weeks of each other...
BEST FOR BUSINESS! THE FUTURE IS HERE!
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Post by 543Y2J on Jul 27, 2015 22:29:31 GMT -5
First time I have been able to stay up for a Raw live with you guys for what feels like ages, so I am happy for that if nothing else. Damn work getting in the way most of the time with 6am - 3pm shifts leaving me no time to watch it when it ends at 4amish here. So the combination of this and the TNA spoiler thread has made it a very enjoyable night, here in my internet home of FAN!
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Post by Chiral on Jul 27, 2015 22:30:40 GMT -5
For all WWE's talk about WCW's problems, they sure are good at doing every single thing WCW did wrong.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jul 27, 2015 22:32:48 GMT -5
Look, I respect Cena's toughness and ability to continue that match with a basically SHATTERED nose But... I don't want Cena in the world title picture, I just DONT. I want DIFFERENT PEOPLE to get deserved title shots. Cena already has 15 WWE Title reigns, and has been put over countless people. He doesn't need it anymore. And he just made Seth Rollins look like the latest joke in that story. No one ever beats Cena, even if something like this happens. If Seth would have won, on top of breaking Cena's nose, it would have elevated him to the stratosphere. But nope, now the WWE Champion is exactly what Cena said he is. A joke. I hate John Cena more and more as the weeks go by... he just makes everything that should be cool, or any potential for future stars, completely dead. And he'll continue to, because that's what he's done for a decade Seriously, F*** John Cena. Dude, all this anger can't be good for your health. You know how angry he makes you. You know what's going to happen when you watch this show. Why put yourself through all the torture?
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Jul 27, 2015 22:37:49 GMT -5
Look, I respect Cena's toughness and ability to continue that match with a basically SHATTERED nose But... I don't want Cena in the world title picture, I just DONT. I want DIFFERENT PEOPLE to get deserved title shots. Cena already has 15 WWE Title reigns, and has been put over countless people. He doesn't need it anymore. And he just made Seth Rollins look like the latest joke in that story. No one ever beats Cena, even if something like this happens. If Seth would have won, on top of breaking Cena's nose, it would have elevated him to the stratosphere. But nope, now the WWE Champion is exactly what Cena said he is. A joke. I hate John Cena more and more as the weeks go by... he just makes everything that should be cool, or any potential for future stars, completely dead. And he'll continue to, because that's what he's done for a decade Seriously, F*** John Cena. Dude, all this anger can't be good for your health. You know how angry he makes you. You know what's going to happen when you watch this show. Why put yourself through all the torture? Why do we eat Taco Bell?
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jul 27, 2015 22:38:54 GMT -5
Dude, all this anger can't be good for your health. You know how angry he makes you. You know what's going to happen when you watch this show. Why put yourself through all the torture? Why do we eat Taco Bell? Presumably because it's easily accessible (not so much here, they failed here about 15 years ago), cheap and tasty. So Cena is those things too?
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 27, 2015 22:39:47 GMT -5
Look, I respect Cena's toughness and ability to continue that match with a basically SHATTERED nose But... I don't want Cena in the world title picture, I just DONT. I want DIFFERENT PEOPLE to get deserved title shots. Cena already has 15 WWE Title reigns, and has been put over countless people. He doesn't need it anymore. And he just made Seth Rollins look like the latest joke in that story. No one ever beats Cena, even if something like this happens. If Seth would have won, on top of breaking Cena's nose, it would have elevated him to the stratosphere. But nope, now the WWE Champion is exactly what Cena said he is. A joke. I hate John Cena more and more as the weeks go by... he just makes everything that should be cool, or any potential for future stars, completely dead. And he'll continue to, because that's what he's done for a decade Seriously, F*** John Cena. Dude, all this anger can't be good for your health. You know how angry he makes you. You know what's going to happen when you watch this show. Why put yourself through all the torture? Dude, If you think I get as angry as I articulate through text then you need to calm down. I'm fine, I'm just expressing my disgust over this really. It's not like it's effecting my well being...
I watch for a lot of the guys I like. Cena just happens to be the most featured dude and unfortunately, he just never seems to put any of the guys I like over, it's sad really, because if he would just do that, I'd probably have a lot less to say about him, but he's probably one of the worst wrestlers ever in the regard of helping to make stars.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Jul 27, 2015 22:41:51 GMT -5
Presumably because it's easily accessible (not so much here, they failed here about 15 years ago), cheap and tasty. So Cena is those things too? Hey man, I'm not gonna come out and say that cannibalizing Cena's delicious championship flesh is the only charity work he hasn't done yet. But I'm saying, when the next potato famine hits, we should consider our options.
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Post by xCompackx on Jul 27, 2015 22:43:04 GMT -5
Presumably because it's easily accessible (not so much here, they failed here about 15 years ago), cheap and tasty. So Cena is those things too? I'm sure Nikki would say at least 2 of those things are true. As for the Cena hatred, the only thing I could recommend is just to stop watching his matches. I mean, people weren't happy with John Cena's character in 2006 and nothing's changed since then. If the idea of John Cena winning (despite the match quality) bugs you, it's not going to get better by still watching him wrestle.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jul 27, 2015 22:45:25 GMT -5
Dude, all this anger can't be good for your health. You know how angry he makes you. You know what's going to happen when you watch this show. Why put yourself through all the torture? Dude, If you think I get as angry as I articulate through text then you need to calm down. I'm fine, I'm just expressing my disgust over this really. It's not like it's effecting my well being...
I watch for a lot of the guys I like. Cena just happens to be the most featured dude and unfortunately, he just never seems to put any of the guys I like over, it's sad really, because if he would just do that, I'd probably have a lot less to say about him, but he's probably one of the worst wrestlers ever in the regard of helping to make stars.
OK, so you're not as angry as your typing makes it appear. That's cool. Really, this whole time you've been here, I've been picturing this when it comes to Cena matters...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2015 22:45:29 GMT -5
Look, I respect Cena's toughness and ability to continue that match with a basically SHATTERED nose But... I don't want Cena in the world title picture, I just DONT. I want DIFFERENT PEOPLE to get deserved title shots. Cena already has 15 WWE Title reigns, and has been put over countless people. He doesn't need it anymore. And he just made Seth Rollins look like the latest joke in that story. No one ever beats Cena, even if something like this happens. If Seth would have won, on top of breaking Cena's nose, it would have elevated him to the stratosphere. But nope, now the WWE Champion is exactly what Cena said he is. A joke. I hate John Cena more and more as the weeks go by... he just makes everything that should be cool, or any potential for future stars, completely dead. And he'll continue to, because that's what he's done for a decade Seriously, F*** John Cena. Dude, all this anger can't be good for your health. You know how angry he makes you. You know what's going to happen when you watch this show. Why put yourself through all the torture? It's not as if there was a disclaimer at the beginning of the show where Michael Cole said "In all due respect folks, John Cena is winning tonight." I'd be thrilled if WWE could do such a thing, as it'd save me a little bit of time. Raw is rife with meaningless, 5-minute main events that don't go anywhere or mean anything. I can't speak for anyone else, but that's what I was expecting tonight. Instead, we got Cena winning clean as a sheet. Shit happens. In this case, what happened was really frustrating to at least a few people. That's just how it is sometimes.
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Post by sfvega on Jul 27, 2015 22:46:33 GMT -5
That might have been Rollins best 1 on 1 match on the main roster. If everyone keeps having their best matches with Cena, does it mean he is the best in the world? The common denominator with Cena's great string of matches hasn't been Cena's ability, but more so his pairing with the top 1% of North American wrestlers. Rollins, Neville, Owens, Zayn, Cesaro. Go back to Cena's Wyatt matches, and tell me how he's the best in the world. IMO, that was a great match. But I preferred Rollins' work with Ambrose to it.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Jul 27, 2015 22:48:04 GMT -5
Dude, all this anger can't be good for your health. You know how angry he makes you. You know what's going to happen when you watch this show. Why put yourself through all the torture? It's not as if there was a disclaimer at the beginning of the show where Michael Cole said "In all due respect folks, John Cena is winning tonight." I'd be thrilled if WWE could do such a thing, as it'd save me a little bit of time. Raw is rife with meaningless, 5-minute main events that don't go anywhere or mean anything. I can't speak for anyone else, but that's what I was expecting tonight. Instead, we got Cena winning clean as a sheet. Shit happens. In this case, what happened was really frustrating to at least a few people. That's just how it is sometimes. I don't blame people if "Cena wins LOL" gets them riled up. After all, I get annoyed with Authority segments opening shows and their long-winded beatdowns of faces to close out shows.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 27, 2015 22:54:51 GMT -5
Dude, If you think I get as angry as I articulate through text then you need to calm down. I'm fine, I'm just expressing my disgust over this really. It's not like it's effecting my well being...
I watch for a lot of the guys I like. Cena just happens to be the most featured dude and unfortunately, he just never seems to put any of the guys I like over, it's sad really, because if he would just do that, I'd probably have a lot less to say about him, but he's probably one of the worst wrestlers ever in the regard of helping to make stars.
OK, so you're not as angry as your typing makes it appear. That's cool. Really, this whole time you've been here, I've been picturing this when it comes to Cena matters... Yeah no, Im not gonna break shit over this. Im more... frustrated and annoyed with Cena because I'm really just more tired of this same old shit routine and his constant victories over other stars who have clearly shown they deserve the Rubs. It's just depressing to see CENA WINS LOL every year. In 2015 it's even more distracting and apparent given Cena is clearly being outclassed by a lot of the roster with the new NXT callus. It's just time for a change and Vince won't let it happen...
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Post by CubsFan71 on Jul 27, 2015 22:56:03 GMT -5
So Cena gets the title match at Summerslam? I'm out
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2015 22:57:12 GMT -5
OK, so you're not as angry as your typing makes it appear. That's cool. Really, this whole time you've been here, I've been picturing this when it comes to Cena matters... Yeah no, Im not gonna break shit over this. Im more... frustrated and annoyed with Cena because I'm really just more tired of this same old shit routine and his constant victories over other stars who have clearly shown they deserve the Rubs. It's just depressing to see CENA WINS LOL every year. In 2015 it's even more distracting and apparent given Cena is clearly being outclassed by a lot of the roster with the new NXT callus. It's just time for a change and Vince won't let it happen... I find it oddly vindicating because the ratings keep going down. WWE's behavior with the main event (and treatment of Cena) is becoming more and more reminiscent of late WCW and TNA. And they just don't care.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Jul 27, 2015 23:00:39 GMT -5
RAW didn't even break 90 pages tonight.
And we're on the build for SummerSlam.
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Post by xCompackx on Jul 27, 2015 23:05:29 GMT -5
OK, so you're not as angry as your typing makes it appear. That's cool. Really, this whole time you've been here, I've been picturing this when it comes to Cena matters... Yeah no, Im not gonna break shit over this. Im more... frustrated and annoyed with Cena because I'm really just more tired of this same old shit routine and his constant victories over other stars who have clearly shown they deserve the Rubs. It's just depressing to see CENA WINS LOL every year. In 2015 it's even more distracting and apparent given Cena is clearly being outclassed by a lot of the roster with the new NXT callus. It's just time for a change and Vince won't let it happen... Technically, the fans are the ones that won't let it happen. People keep buying his merchandise, watching the media appearances/TV shows/movies he does, cheering for him during matches, etc. Vince is just reacting to the fans' desire to see John Cena and how much money he makes for the company.
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